Very impressed with the conference today, and the sony blog i believe it was confirmed cross game chat, don't have to listen to people whine about that anymore! They seem to have fixed a good few of the problems with the PS3, except one that we don't know if they did or not yet, still need to know the price tag Dx Hopefully it's nothing ridiculous like last time around's launch...
Btw, the $10 today was nice! That's good for an older game or 2 that i wanna try out!
Okay my laptop overheated during the presentation and I totally missed out on seeing Johnathan Blow there. Apparently Sony's letting indie devs self-publish? That's huge!
which apparently is possible via internet but we didn't test that out.
If the internet thing works the way I hope it would then I could seriously regret getting the Wi-Fi only model. Having portable PS4 games in 2013 would be a dream.
Very impressive conference today. Can't wait to what else is in store for the PS4!!
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So do we know if this is going to be backwards compatible with PS3/PS2 games?
I assume it'll be PS1 compatible since even the PS3 is, and it'll likely have PS2/PS3 games available similar to PS2 games on PS3 right now, but what about the actual discs?
Damn I would have loved to see a Gran Turismo teaser at the press conference. But I have to say the trailer for DriveClub looks pretty neat as well.
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I don't work for Sony, but let me just try to make these PS4 questions more "informative" and make it sound, in a way, positive.
•Yes, the PS4 WILL support optical media, meaning Blu-ray, DVDs, and CDs. This doesn't confirm that the PS4 will PLAY PS3 games however, as I don't think the PS4 has the Cell chip that was used for PS3 games. However, if the PS4 DOES have the Cell, or has an evolved Cell, then there's a HUGE chance the PS4 will play PS3 games, which can also mean PS1 BC included, but no PS2 BC (due to the PS3 also removing the Emotion chips the PS2 used)
•Cloud-service is being used on Steam, XBox Live, and PSN (except for the Wii and Wii U... -_-) right now, which is the feature to save your game saves into the cloud (literally). I guess this is a more convenient way of transferring your saves than with USBs, but it's a smart move by Sony and Microsoft, as it can be a way for PS3 and Xbox 360 saves to transfer to PS4 and Xbox 720.
•Gaikai was and is a SMART buy by Sony. Look at the Playstation Store right now. Not every PS1-3 game is in the store. In fact, there are ALOT of games missing. With Gaikai, Sony will be able to bring back these games, and let you stream them on your PS4 and Vita (and maybe even PS3). I'm not sure the extent Sony will use Gaikai, but they will definitely use Gaikai to not only bring back a lot of classic Playstation games to the next gen audience, but only increase the amount of games next gen users will be able to play.
•Shuhei Yoshida (President of SCE Worldwide Studio) and Jack Tretton (President and CEO of SCEA) have expressed that they do not want to block used games for the PS4... Who would block used game sales anyways? Letting that happen will literally make you the next Sega, ie getting out of the hardware industry. That's the DUMBEST thing a company can incorporate into their product. Not everyone has the money to buy the newest thing when they come out, and have to wait until that game lowers in price. Plus, there's going to be new PS4 owners a few years from now who want to play the older PS4 games.
Some people might think this is too enthusiastic, but I'd rather it be this way than letting other misinformed people misinform other those curious about the PS4. There's nothing worse than hearing people say the PS4 will not have BC, when in reality, Sony bought Gaikai just for this very same reason, and to give more games to PS4 players.
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What of all the current games I have on PS3, do I have to re-purchase everything?
Then what, what happens to all the games and stuff? Yeah no. I think that if Sony is going to charge $400+ (the estimated price for it) the very least they could have done is allowed the damn PS4 to be able to pop in a PS3 disc and play it while not restricting it's hardware/software boundaries.
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It wasn't actual PS4 footage, it was PC footage. We still have no idea what the PS4 can do in terms of actual gameplay video.Why not? It's a PS4 game now too. It was probably the only one ready to be demonstrated at this point.
Then I was misinformed.Except you don't. They didn't say that at all.
Until you hit it accidentally because of the awkward placement of it. It is right above the D-Pad, just seems like horrible placement, for a horrible idea. At least put it in the middle of the controller like every other home/pause button.They're not going to cater to neckbeards, they're going for the larger part of the market. Besides if it's on a button then that means it's optional.
That could really hurt sales, even more so if the no used games thing is true.I don't know, they never said. I'm going to say probably.
I'm not anti-Sony, just for the sake of it. I've given Sony a chance in the past with a PS2, and was extremely disappointed. Part of it was the fact I had to pay extra to have four people play at once (that was a joke), plus another part of it was it couldn't run certain games (the blue disks), then you add in the ridiculous price of the PS3 at launch. The whole things was just a disappointment. Besides, if this console fails, that would be bad for the industry has a whole, which isn't something people want to see.
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How about that Killzone video?It wasn't actual PS4 footage, it was PC footage. We still have no idea what the PS4 can do in terms of actual gameplay video.
Yeah, middle of the controller would be much better. I doubt there's going to be accidental Facebook posts just because you pushed the button though. It'd probably ask what you wanted to share first.Until you hit it accidentally because of the awkward placement of it. It is right above the D-Pad, just seems like horrible placement, for a horrible idea. At least put it in the middle of the controller like every other home/pause button.
2. You do not own streamed games, nor do you have full control over the ability to play them. This is something that is likely more akin to netflix than actually buying a game in the store. (depending on whether it's per game or a monthly fee)
This isn't to say any of this is horrible or anything, but the point of backwards compatibility is to use the games you already for an older system on a newer one. It does not mean "this system can play games originally designed for an older system".
If it doesn't charge you to play games you already own, than it's probably close enough. (though it's technically reimbursement in that case) But I didn't hear any mention of payment yet.
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I just want everyone to remember that Square Enix basically showed old footage and then said "get excited for E3!" and left.
On the plus side, I just got the news that PS4 WILL NOT BLOCK USED GAME. As for the games, the game that caught my attention was Watch Dog.
As for the used game market, some gaming developers will find a way to block the used game. An example of a gaming company that would: Capcom.
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And isn't that their whole claim about how much better games will look on the PS4?
Based on what reasoning? Just because we didn't see an actual console doesn't mean that a working unit wasn't in use.
No statement on that so can't make a conclusion. They said later on that there will be no ban on used games (which will rule that out completely for another generation at least because MS won't go it alone).
So, what exactly is the console doing different gameplay wise? Anything? Because I'm certainly not seeing it, it looks like same gameplay with slightly better graphics.
I do like some of the titles they announced, like Watch Dogs and Knack.
The gameplay graphics look outstanding but I'm going to wait like I did with my PS3 or maybe less. So far the hardware looks great but it comes down to the games in the end and that's what I'm going to wait for.
The real question is what's Microsoft up to now? Apple or Sony and Nintendo? Which way shall you choose?
Also why would you even mention Apple?