Damn I would have loved to see a Gran Turismo teaser at the press conference. But I have to say the trailer for DriveClub looks pretty neat as well.
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Damn I would have loved to see a Gran Turismo teaser at the press conference. But I have to say the trailer for DriveClub looks pretty neat as well.
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I don't work for Sony, but let me just try to make these PS4 questions more "informative" and make it sound, in a way, positive.
•Yes, the PS4 WILL support optical media, meaning Blu-ray, DVDs, and CDs. This doesn't confirm that the PS4 will PLAY PS3 games however, as I don't think the PS4 has the Cell chip that was used for PS3 games. However, if the PS4 DOES have the Cell, or has an evolved Cell, then there's a HUGE chance the PS4 will play PS3 games, which can also mean PS1 BC included, but no PS2 BC (due to the PS3 also removing the Emotion chips the PS2 used)
•Cloud-service is being used on Steam, XBox Live, and PSN (except for the Wii and Wii U... -_-) right now, which is the feature to save your game saves into the cloud (literally). I guess this is a more convenient way of transferring your saves than with USBs, but it's a smart move by Sony and Microsoft, as it can be a way for PS3 and Xbox 360 saves to transfer to PS4 and Xbox 720.
•Gaikai was and is a SMART buy by Sony. Look at the Playstation Store right now. Not every PS1-3 game is in the store. In fact, there are ALOT of games missing. With Gaikai, Sony will be able to bring back these games, and let you stream them on your PS4 and Vita (and maybe even PS3). I'm not sure the extent Sony will use Gaikai, but they will definitely use Gaikai to not only bring back a lot of classic Playstation games to the next gen audience, but only increase the amount of games next gen users will be able to play.
•Shuhei Yoshida (President of SCE Worldwide Studio) and Jack Tretton (President and CEO of SCEA) have expressed that they do not want to block used games for the PS4... Who would block used game sales anyways? Letting that happen will literally make you the next Sega, ie getting out of the hardware industry. That's the DUMBEST thing a company can incorporate into their product. Not everyone has the money to buy the newest thing when they come out, and have to wait until that game lowers in price. Plus, there's going to be new PS4 owners a few years from now who want to play the older PS4 games.
Some people might think this is too enthusiastic, but I'd rather it be this way than letting other misinformed people misinform other those curious about the PS4. There's nothing worse than hearing people say the PS4 will not have BC, when in reality, Sony bought Gaikai just for this very same reason, and to give more games to PS4 players.
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Well Idk about anyone else but I enjoy having my physical collecion of the games that I have bought over the years, what if something fails and all the Cloud data gets corrupted/deleted? Since it is said the PS4 cannot play the PS3 games natively.
What of all the current games I have on PS3, do I have to re-purchase everything?
Then what, what happens to all the games and stuff? Yeah no. I think that if Sony is going to charge $400+ (the estimated price for it) the very least they could have done is allowed the damn PS4 to be able to pop in a PS3 disc and play it while not restricting it's hardware/software boundaries.
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The console not existing thing was a joke. Doesn't change the fact that everything besides Watch Dogs looked like it was a cutscene, which would be pre-rendered.
It wasn't actual PS4 footage, it was PC footage. We still have no idea what the PS4 can do in terms of actual gameplay video.Why not? It's a PS4 game now too. It was probably the only one ready to be demonstrated at this point.
Then I was misinformed.Except you don't. They didn't say that at all.
Until you hit it accidentally because of the awkward placement of it. It is right above the D-Pad, just seems like horrible placement, for a horrible idea. At least put it in the middle of the controller like every other home/pause button.They're not going to cater to neckbeards, they're going for the larger part of the market. Besides if it's on a button then that means it's optional.
That could really hurt sales, even more so if the no used games thing is true.I don't know, they never said. I'm going to say probably.
I'm not anti-Sony, just for the sake of it. I've given Sony a chance in the past with a PS2, and was extremely disappointed. Part of it was the fact I had to pay extra to have four people play at once (that was a joke), plus another part of it was it couldn't run certain games (the blue disks), then you add in the ridiculous price of the PS3 at launch. The whole things was just a disappointment. Besides, if this console fails, that would be bad for the industry has a whole, which isn't something people want to see.
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The idea of having the entire Playstation library of games available is appealing to me, however I'm not so sure about streaming them. Cloud storage and game streaming are both things that I'm hesitant about mostly because I don't know how reliable they are.
Oh, okay a joke, gotcha. Just because it looked like a cutscene doesn't mean that it was pre-rendered though. Think of something like Metal Gear Solid 4, which is a cutscene but everything is running in-game.
How about that Killzone video?It wasn't actual PS4 footage, it was PC footage. We still have no idea what the PS4 can do in terms of actual gameplay video.
Yeah, middle of the controller would be much better. I doubt there's going to be accidental Facebook posts just because you pushed the button though. It'd probably ask what you wanted to share first.Until you hit it accidentally because of the awkward placement of it. It is right above the D-Pad, just seems like horrible placement, for a horrible idea. At least put it in the middle of the controller like every other home/pause button.
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Dam now i'm wondering what will happen now to your PSN friends. After launch, no one will be online anymore and play. Or will PS4 users be online on people's PS3 friendslist?
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1. Streaming games is not backwards compatibility. Even if you already own the game, you have to pay for it again to play it on the new device.
2. You do not own streamed games, nor do you have full control over the ability to play them. This is something that is likely more akin to netflix than actually buying a game in the store. (depending on whether it's per game or a monthly fee)
This isn't to say any of this is horrible or anything, but the point of backwards compatibility is to use the games you already for an older system on a newer one. It does not mean "this system can play games originally designed for an older system".
If it doesn't charge you to play games you already own, than it's probably close enough. (though it's technically reimbursement in that case) But I didn't hear any mention of payment yet.
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I just want everyone to remember that Square Enix basically showed old footage and then said "get excited for E3!" and left.
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Streaming games is the worst idea ever. Well, maybe. The speed you play games is totally dependent on your internet connection. Not to meantion that a streaming console has been done before.
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You know forgot one more con, release PS4 on the same year that it announce which will cause hardware or software problems (just like the X-Box 360).
On the plus side, I just got the news that PS4 WILL NOT BLOCK USED GAME. As for the games, the game that caught my attention was Watch Dog.
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As for the used game market, some gaming developers will find a way to block the used game. An example of a gaming company that would: Capcom.
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And isn't that their whole claim about how much better games will look on the PS4?
Based on what reasoning? Just because we didn't see an actual console doesn't mean that a working unit wasn't in use.
No statement on that so can't make a conclusion. They said later on that there will be no ban on used games (which will rule that out completely for another generation at least because MS won't go it alone).
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So, what exactly is the console doing different gameplay wise? Anything? Because I'm certainly not seeing it, it looks like same gameplay with slightly better graphics.
I do like some of the titles they announced, like Watch Dogs and Knack.
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The gameplay graphics look outstanding but I'm going to wait like I did with my PS3 or maybe less. So far the hardware looks great but it comes down to the games in the end and that's what I'm going to wait for.
The real question is what's Microsoft up to now? Apple or Sony and Nintendo? Which way shall you choose?
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Most likely the latter. Microsoft isn't really trying to be a games console, but an entertainment hub. They tend to do a lot more for their consoles' social and multimedia features than actual games .
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Actually they did go out and say it was running on a PC. I'd imagine it's one they assembled with the same specs as their PS4 so there's really not much of a difference.
What exactly were you expecting? A virtual reality headset?
I'm probably going to end up doing what I did this generation, and that's gradually get all three consoles. That is, provided they each have interesting exclusives this time around.
Also why would you even mention Apple?
Looking at the last gen (or current gen, whatever) 360 had way more to play than the Wii. I know I'm not the only one who bought a 360 or PS3 because after a while there just weren't that many good Wii games coming out. Really, added multimedia features on a console in now way effect how many games it has.
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Because like Microsoft, Apple makes computers, casual tablets are swarming the market along with their variety of cheap games, and I'm hungry.
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Something that actually changes how games are played this gen. So far it's basically been same gameplay with slightly better graphics (which I can't even tell apart from current gen).
While all of that is true, it's not the point I was trying to make. Yes, 360 got more third party games than the Wii did, they did little to push their own. Microsoft doesn't tend to focus on first party exclusives the same way that Nintendo or even Sony does, they're pushing multimedia and social features like Xbox Live and Kinect and leaving third parties to push games. That's why, in a sense, they're not really competing with Nintendo and Sony, they're not interested in creating a dedicated games console as much as they are creating an entertainment center for your living room.
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Nope, it wasn't the same specs. They said it was "close" to the same specs. They could mean anything in terms of specs, even to the point that construct a PC with the same specs as a PS4 is more expensive to building one that is better, due to rarity of parts (not saying this is the case).
Don't people always say that you can't tell anything from game trailers for new consoles, because they are never actual gameplay, in terms of graphics though. So until we see actual gameplay, from a live demo, I'm not making any judgement on the graphics being better or worse (not that it matters anymore really, since as far as graphics go I just need to be able to tell what I'm doing). I'm not counting the Capcom thing, because that did not look like gameplay, with the way everything moved, and the lack of action by what I assume to be the PC.
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Good games is a pretty relative term, since everyone has their own preferences. I don't really care for most of the big budget"aaa" games or whatnot so Wii and PS3 are pretty close when it comes to game selection.
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