Serebii Paranormal & Crypto-zoological Society

[MugoUrth]

But I already started on the list.

[Asbestospoison]

I'll take that one.

Actually, I think grassmaster said he'd do that.

[MugoUrth]

Oh, okay.

One thing you didn't mention Asbestospoison: Emboar is based off of the sidekick of Sun Wukong, the main protagonist of an old story known as Journey to the West. Infernape is based off of Sun Wukong himself.

[Asbestospoison]

Oh, okay.

One thing you didn't mention Asbestospoison: Emboar is based off of the sidekick of Sun Wukong, the main protagonist of an old story known as Journey to the West. Infernape is based off of Sun Wukong himself.

I don't really see a need to add that, as Journey to the West is a novel, not actually a part of mythology.

[WizardTrubbish]

I don't really see a need to add that, as Journey to the West is a novel, not actually a part of mythology.

What about mythological gods? Do they con't? If so, then you could use Victini (Nike)

[MugoUrth]

I don't really see a need to add that, as Journey to the West is a novel, not actually a part of mythology.

Some stories are also derived from myths, as well as some myths derived from stories. Journey to the West might have been inspired by several myths. just saying.

[Asbestospoison]

What about mythological gods? Do they con't? If so, then you could use Victini (Nike)

I think they would, but I always thought victini was a cross between a fennec fox and a method of cutting apples to make them look like rabbits…

[Grassmaster411]

Yeah, I think there was a bit of miscommunication there, Baba Yaga is a witch. Maybe you need to read a bit slower when trying to catch up, Grassmaster.

I more meant that the whole entire Baba yaga, including the house that walks on giant chicken legs, may be a passed down story of enounters with a large, theropod dinosaur. Strange sounds that a theropod could make might be mistaken for the moaning of a supernatural being. I'm not saying I'm sure this is the case, but I do think that it is the most probable source of the myth. Thats just my opinion/theory anyway.

Heres my list for 4th gen. Sorry that its probably missing alot.

Grotle: Stegosaur/ankylosaur

Torterra: Ankylosaur/Native American Legend

Cranidos: Surviving pachycephalosaurus or relative

Rampardos: Surviving pachycephalosaurus or relative

Sheildon: Survivng ceratopsian

Bastiodon: Suviving ceratopsian

Honchkrow: Witch/warlock

Mismagius: ghost/witch

Bronzor: Possesed artifact

Brongzong: Possesed artifact

Abomasnow: Yeti

Snover: Baby yeti?

Lucario: Anubis/ Werewolf

Riolu: baby werewolf

Spiritomb: Jibaruki

Gible: Bunyip

Gabite: Gargoyle

Garchomp: Dragon

Rhyperior: Golem/dinosaur

Togekiss: Angel

Yanmega: Surviving Meganuera (a prehistoric dragonfly with a 3 foot wingspan)

Electivire: bigfoot

Tangrowth: shaggy caveman/grassman

Gliscor: Vampire/ Yowie Yahoo/ Gremlin/ Jersey Devil

Mamoswine: Suviving mammoth or mastodon

Dusknoir: Grim Reaper

Frosslass: Yuki-onna

Rotom: Ghost that posses things

Dialga: Inzanami

Palkia: Inzanagi

Darkrai: Morpheus

Arceus: God

[WizardTrubbish]

How about Cresselia. It's Alkonost and Sarimanok

[Grassmaster411]

How about Cresselia. It's Alkonost and Sarimanok

I.... have no idea what those things are.

[WizardTrubbish]

I.... have no idea what those things are.

Neither do I

[Grassmaster411]

Neither do I

umm, then why did you say it? Is it just gibberish?

[Asbestospoison]

Are dinosaurs considered paranormal, cryptid, or mythological? I also have to question these:

Electivire: bigfoot

Tangrowth: shaggy caveman/grassman

Gliscor: Vampire/ Yowie Yahoo/ Gremlin/ Jersey Devil

Mamoswine: Suviving mammoth or mastodon

Cavemen aren't really paranormal, just dead.
Same thing with Mammoths.
Also, I'm kind of at a loss as to what some of these, namely what dialga and palkia are supposed to be. Could you please explain?

[VampirateMace]

Great work guys. Now, understand that I will be throwing some of these out; ones that associate too strongly with a certain religions or holidays, or are less than tasteful.

AP: I'm with you on cavemen... but mammoths, have a mythological side. Scientist working in Siberia have to get he local shaman/guru's permission to study mammoths that come up through the permafrost, because they are believed to be creatures of the underworld. Also Elephant or Mammoth fossils may be responsible for the Cyclops legends.

I'm still finishing up sorting Gen 1, but go ahead and post any last minute entries for consideration.

[Asbestospoison]

Meh, good enough for me. How exactly will the voting work? Or is it my job to figure that out, since I'm the contest mod?

[VampirateMace]

No, I've got this one.
I'll be compiling the selected pokemon into groups of similar creatures, then I'll post the group lists (one at a time), and have everyone vote for their favorite 2 out of that group. Then once we've voted on all the groups, we'll do tournment voting of the remaining pokemon, where we'll only vote between 2 at a time.

EDIT:
here's the groups I plan to use:

Ghosts, Possessions, and Undead:
Dragons:
Demons, and ‘Dark’ Creatures:
Fairies and ‘Light’ Creatures:
Humanoids (Golems, Aliens, Bigfeet) :
Cryptids, Relics, and Real Animal Variants:

EDIT 2:
Gen 1

Charmander (Fire Salamander)

Charizard (European Dragon)

Nidoran M (Almiraj)
Nidorino (Almiraj)

Clefairy (Fairy)
Clefable (Fairy)

Vulpix (Demon Fox)
Ninetales (Nine Tailed Demon Fox)

Abra (Psychic)
Kadabra (Psychic)
Alakazam (Psychic)

Graveler (Golem)
Golem (Golem)

Arbok (Basilisk?)

Rapidash (Unicorn)

Gastly (Ghost)
Haunter (Ghost)
Gengar (Ghost)

Drowzee (Baku)
Hypno (Baku, Hypnotist)

Rhydon (Extinct Rhino)

Exeggutor (Jinmenju)

Tangela (Medusa, Green Man)

Gyarados (Sea Serpent)
Lapras (Nessie, plesiosaurus)

Aero dactyl (pterosaurs, wyvern)

Articuno (Roc, Rokh)
Zapdos (Thunderbird, Impundulu)
Moltres (Pheniox, Suzaku)

Dratini (Eastern Dragon)
Dragon air (Eastern Dragon)
Dragonite (European Dragin, Sea Dragon)

[WizardTrubbish]

umm, then why did you say it? Is it just gibberish?

I looked it up on bulbapedia.

[Grassmaster411]

Are dinosaurs considered paranormal, cryptid, or mythological? I also have to question these:

Cavemen aren't really paranormal, just dead.
Same thing with Mammoths.
Also, I'm kind of at a loss as to what some of these, namely what dialga and palkia are supposed to be. Could you please explain?

Cavemen (aka neanderthals) may be responsible to the entire bigfoot story altogether. I'ts just an idea, but it seemed a good idea to post more than less.

Dialga and Palkia come from a ancient Japanese legend of beings that made an island and a large, spear shaped tower within it.

Mammoths may still be alive today, which puts them in the cryptid category: Previously thought to be extinct. The Tasmainian Tiger also falls into that category.

[MugoUrth]

Rotom: Ghost that posses things

Poltergeist. ...They're called Poltergeists.

Also, some of those, like Garchomp, seem to be guesses more than answers.

[VampirateMace]

I've been double checking the lists. Dialga and Palkia have disqualified, not only do they represent a modern religion, but Palkia has some unflattering press floating around.

Poltergeist don't necessarily posses anything, throw things and make noises yes. Some claims are that they're not even ghosts, but stressed people with ESP.
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Anyways voting starts now:

Alright, I’ve weeded our selections; removing overly religious/holiday pokemon (w/ exception for ancient religious figures, ex. Greek and Egyptian gods), ones with un-tasteful aspects, and ones that were vague or didn’t really fit. I’ve also edited their info, and neatly organized them into groups. (I also added another group, Plants and Nature Guardians.) If you’re concerned that a creature is missing or in the wrong group; please keep in mind that these are rather loosely named groups, I am only human and not perfect, and that some creatures may belong to more than one group or may have been disqualified for various reasons.

Below is the Group 1. Please select 2 pokemon from that group that you would like to see move onto Tournament Stage of mascot selection. The 2 pokemon with the most votes will move on (14 in total from 7 Groups). Please respect each other’s votes and rights to vote, if you feel differently than someone else then vote for the pokemon you want, don’t pick on them or question their choice.

You now have roughly 48 hours to cast your vote.

Group 1: Ghosts, Possessions, and Undead:
Gastly (Ghost)
Haunter (Ghost)
Gengar (Ghost)
Yamask (Ghost w/ Death Mask)
Cofagrigus (Mummy w/ Sarcophagus)
Litwick (Flame Ghost - Candle)
Lampent (Flame Ghost - Lamp)
Chandelure (Flame Ghost - Chandelier/Candelabra)
Misdreavis (Ghost, Witch)
Shuppet (Possessed hand puppet, Teru teru bozu)
Banette (Possessed Marionette)
Duskull (Ghost, Wraith)
Dusclops (Mummy)
Mismagius (Ghost, Witch)
Spiritomb (Jibaruki, Legion, Crystal ball)
Rotom (Ghost, Possessor)