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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Munchlax View Post
    Also, did anyone else feel creeped out a when one of Clay's miners chuckled after saying "My boss's pokémon are all extremely powerful" to Ash?
    Sure did. 0_o Honestly, for a moment, I was worried that something bad was gonna happen.

    Anyway, I enjoyed this episode more than I thought I would. I like the gym leader episodes a lot more in BW than I did in past seasons.

    Things started out nice and ominous with that psycho guy leading them to the gym, and the battle got started quickly. I like how they’ve retained the gym gimmicks from the games. I instantly sympathized with Ash after the wisecrack about him using cute Pokémon—I love cute Pokémon, and I tore through Clay with unevolved ones! (Hooray for Snivy!)

    Ash’s come-from-behind victories often seem contrived, but I thought the writers did a good job with Oshawott versus Krokorok... if I spelled that right. Ash’s strategy was interesting, and it was particularly smart to squirt into the hole Krok dug. That part of the battle was this episode’s highlight for me.

    But Ash was stupid to keep on battling with Oshawott. It was nice to see Snivy rip through Palpitoad: my Snivy did the exact same in Clay’s gym a lot. Clay sure was mean when he lost fair and square to Ash’s strategy.

    The Excadrill battle... wasn’t very impressive to me. First off, the fact that Clay mentioned how much he’s done with Excadrill only highlighted how odd it is that gym leaders lose if they’re going full-force. Second off, I thought Ash just got lucky with the evolution: he basically had Roggenrola be nothing more than target practice. Oh well. At least Boldore “hugging” Ash at the end was funny and cute.

    Though it had a few downsides, it was a very good episode overall.
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    This was a great Gym battle. Ash was actually very competent, which is a stark contrast to his behaviour during Elesa's Gym battle. It's a shame this series is often inconsistent. The evolution animation was impressive.

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    Somehow the beginning of this episode felt creepily drawn out with the mine workers. Like, suuuuper long unecessary mine shaft ride..Or maybe I was just sick of being teased of the Driftveil City Gym Battle...Qwaa

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    My favorite part of this episode was definitely where Clay got mad at Ash and accused him of sneaky tactics. I'd argue that Ash was battling fair and square, but Clay's reaction was still funny. It's also interesting that all of Clay's pokemon were ones either owned by a twerp (palpitoad and excadril) or about to be owned (krokorok).

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    Quote Originally Posted by ForgottenPearl View Post
    The Excadrill battle... wasn’t very impressive to me. First off, the fact that Clay mentioned how much he’s done with Excadrill only highlighted how odd it is that gym leaders lose if they’re going full-force. Second off, I thought Ash just got lucky with the evolution: he basically had Roggenrola be nothing more than target practice. Oh well. At least Boldore “hugging” Ash at the end was funny and cute.
    I was thinking the same thing as well when I saw the Excadrill battle vs. Roggenrola, but then I realized something when I saw what happened after Horn Drill. Even when it made direct contact, Roggenrola didn't go down at all, and normally, Horn Drill only works if the user is at a higher or equal level, so this meant one of two things. Either the old mechanics of Sturdy kicked in (which I doubt), or Roggenrola was already at a higher level than Excadrill to begin with.

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    It was a great gym battle. I loved seeing Roggenrola evolve and I liked that Clay made the gym all by himself
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    I was thinking during the battle that maybe Sandstorm could cut the accuracy of the Pokemon being attacked.
    I forgot all about Sand Attack when I thought this. No, seriously.

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    Oshawott vs. Krokorok was a good battle. Ash was very competent and intelligent here. Snivy vs. Palpitoad wasn't bad since it finally showed Attract working in a battle again. It was a good battle... until Ash sent out Roggenrola against Excadrill.

    That ruined it for me, since Roggenrola had not battled or trained a single time prior to this episode and he expected it to win against a fully evolved ground/steel type Pokemon. Roggenrola was hit with multiple Drill Runs and then Horn Drill and instead of fainting to the Drill Runs like it should have it just evolves (when it didn't have enough experience to), learns a super effective move(wow so convenient) and wins.

    The writers were doing well until then. Boldore should not have taken so many hits and survived. >_>
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    I liked how smart Ash was in this battle. The most surprising bit was Roggenrola vs Excadrill. Despite having a type disadvantage, it had Sturdy, allowing it to survive Horn Drills but should've fainted to the Drill Runs. It seems amazing that it evolved into Boldore and defeated Excadrill using a recently learned SE Rock Smash.

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    Wow Oshawott actually did decent here against Clay's Krokorok which was a surprise to me cuz of how often he used to lose ha ha. I liked seeing Roggenrola evolve as well as Clay's reactions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Cipher View Post
    Oshawott vs. Krokorok was a good battle. Ash was very competent and intelligent here. Snivy vs. Palpitoad wasn't bad since it finally showed Attract working in a battle again. It was a good battle... until Ash sent out Roggenrola against Excadrill.

    That ruined it for me, since Roggenrola had not battled or trained a single time prior to this episode and he expected it to win against a fully evolved ground/steel type Pokemon. Roggenrola was hit with multiple Drill Runs and then Horn Drill and instead of fainting to the Drill Runs like it should have it just evolves (when it didn't have enough experience to), learns a super effective move(wow so convenient) and wins.

    The writers were doing well until then. Boldore should not have taken so many hits and survived. >_>
    Which is odd when you consider his best trained Pokémon lost to a weaker version of the same Pokémon in the previous series. The BW battles have been very inconsistent.

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    Roggenrola versus Excadrill was great and so was Roggenrola's evolution scene. This was a good Gym match all things considered. 8/10

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    Now that Satoshi had finished Yacon's errand, it was nice to see the Hodomoe Gym match get taken care of. I liked watching Satoshi use type advantages by selecting Mijumaru and Tsutarja to face Waruvile and Gamagaru, and when Dangoro evolved and beat Doryuzu, I couldn't help but smile.

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    It was great to see Ash's hideous Roggenrola evolve into an average Boldore. Rock Blast looked really awesome too btw. Ash was very strategic in this Gym battle, which was a nice change.

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    Y'know, with the way Clay was designed, I think I would have been disappointed if he DIDN'T have that over-the-top Yosemite Sam voice. If he had a normal voice it would have been much more... weird, I think.

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    Good battle all around. It was very enjoyable to watch and Ash actually looked competent here. Roggenrola evolving was a little questionable but it doesn't ruin the episode or anything.

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