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    Default One move that will change everything

    Did you once saw a pokemon which you though it should have a move but it doesn't have it so it can be much better competitively JUST one move to make the difference between bad and good.

    Like we all say "Give flareon Flare Blitz!"

    so which move (that exists...) can make a bad pokemon a really good one?

    Also don't mention quiver dance on stuff like gardevoir cause gardevoir is far from being a butterfly, something that they can use somehow.


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    well flaer blitz would allow flareon to have a stab fire type move that actually can do a decent chunk of damaage


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    Flareon would need V-Create / Earthquake / Close Combat / Thunderbolt / Hydro Pump / Shell Smash to have any reasonable chance of making OU. Its just outclassed by other Pokemon even with Flare Blitz (or even V-create).

    Give Regirock Recover.

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    More likely Regirock should get an ability akin to Regenerator, by it does need a phazing move (Circle Throw, or whatever it's called)

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    Well things that come to mind would be the move Recover on Pokemon like Registeel and Dusclops, a reliable recovery move for some of the effective walls that don't have that would be a big upgrade for them. Also if Heracross and other sweeping threats lacking priority got a priority move, like Mach punch or Extreame speed, would be a big help for them.

    Probably the biggest one I could think of is if Lapras got shell smash, with its massive hp and above average move pool, Lapras would be hard to stop. Lapras could utilize an effective mix set, consisting of waterfall, ice beam, thunderbolt, and shell smash. Or you could run it on a drizzle team, run hydration, and replace one of the attacking moves with rest.
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    Bronzong/Bronzor and Ferroseed/Ferrothron should both get Rapid Spin, for Effs sake, Ferroseed's 5th gen animation is of him Spinning and so Forretress can retire to the lower tiers :J. But other than making Good Pokemon Better, tbh if like Samurott, Torterra and Blastoise (only Pokes, that come to mind XD starters, anyone?) got Shell Smash. It would be pretty funny getting swept by a Torterra XD.
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    Regirock needs a way of recovering. It would probably be able to make it out of NU if GF just gave it recover. And I agree with N_H, why the **** can't ferrothorn learn rapid spin?
    As for me...
    I honestly wish cacturne got some way of dealing with fighting types, like psycut. That's pretty baised (I love cacturne), but it already has a decent physical movepool, and I'd like to see it move out of NU.

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    ^Ferroseed would learn RS, but it would be basically the same.

    Anyway, if Excadrill had learn Stone Edge, I'm pretty sure it would have gone to ubers sooner, and the metagame as it is would be more developed.

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    If durant had better physical moves such as earthquake, it might make it out of RU.

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    While not really a move, if one of the really low rapid spinners like delibird got scrappy as an ability to prevent being spin-blocked, it would move up a bit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Harvest View Post
    Give Regirock Recover.
    Give all the Regis recover. They all would benefit from it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bugcatchersdream View Post
    Give all the Regis recover. They all would benefit from it.
    True, but regirock is the most noteworthy, due to it's amazing defenses and good attack, and regice is weak to stealth rock, among other things. Although regice has Ice Body as it's DW ability, which would definitely make it more noteworthy. Too bad it isn't released yet.
    Also, if Hariyama could learn sucker punch, I imagine it could do so much better.

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    blissey with final gambit would be a lolzfest

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    Shuckle with either shell smash, refresh, or recover. Seriously, if it got shell smash, with contrary it would be a boss. Not enough to be OU but still.
    Yep we should ban baton pass, and weather too. Oh and Trick Room, I'm tired of having to worry about Trick Room all the time. Just ban the move Trick Room, and prankster, it's broken. Ban all status moves on prankster users, they're too cheap. Oh and ban Probopass to it's so cheap. Just ban everything except Magikarp with splash.
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    Conkeldurr with Elemental Punches (in particular Ice Punch. Problem Gliscor?)
    Golurk with Elemental Punches (again, Ice Punch)
    Zekrom with Earthquake (seriously, the heaviest Unova poke can't use EQ?)
    Druddigon with Elemental Punches
    Meinshao with Ice Punch


    And so forth.

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    Delibird with Judgement.











    I mean, come on, who wouldn't want to use THAT!
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    Quote Originally Posted by irock245 View Post
    Shuckle with either shell smash, refresh, or recover. Seriously, if it got shell smash, with contrary it would be a boss. Not enough to be OU but still.
    Hoping that was sarcasm, but wouldn't Shell Smash halve it's Offensive and speed stats while raising it's defensive stats 1 stage?

    Wouldn't Curse or Stockpile be better for that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MetalFlygon08 View Post
    Hoping that was sarcasm, but wouldn't Shell Smash halve it's Offensive and speed stats while raising it's defensive stats 1 stage?

    Wouldn't Curse or Stockpile be better for that?
    Though curse doesn't touch it's special defense, and stockpile can only get to +3.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zachmac View Post
    Though curse doesn't touch it's special defense, and stockpile can only get to +3.
    yes, but how many Shuckle can actually hang out long enough to get more than 2 stat boosts?

    What with it's low HP and what not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MetalFlygon08 View Post
    yes, but how many Shuckle can actually hang out long enough to get more than 2 stat boosts?

    What with it's low HP and what not.
    Is that a joke?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiny Zek View Post
    Is that a joke?
    Well it dies to a max of 3 Seismic Tosses/Night Shades, 2 if Entry Hazards are out, sure it has Encore, but it still can't survive much.

    Plus Shuckle has better things to be doing, like setting up Rocks, Poisoning stuff, and other malarkey.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MetalFlygon08 View Post
    yes, but how many Shuckle can actually hang out long enough to get more than 2 stat boosts?

    What with it's low HP and what not.
    Using that argument, one or two boost won't make a difference then.

    Plus Shuckle has better things to be doing, like setting up Rocks, Poisoning stuff, and other malarkey.
    With that movepool?

    Eh, even with a stat boosting move, Shuckle will still suck, so I guess arguing is pointless.
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    Now if Shuckle got some sort of Fixed Damage move...

    I'd personally prefer some stuff like:
    Extrasensory and Power Whip on Serperior
    Submission and Fire Punch for Emboar
    Dragon Dance for Flygon
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    Quote Originally Posted by MetalFlygon08 View Post
    Now if Shuckle got some sort of Fixed Damage move...

    I'd personally prefer some stuff like:
    Extrasensory and Power Whip on Serperior
    Drain Punch and Fire Punch for Emboar
    Dragon Dance for Flygon
    Fixed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MetalFlygon08 View Post
    Now if Shuckle got some sort of Fixed Damage move...

    I'd personally prefer some stuff like:
    Extrasensory and Power Whip on Serperior
    Submission and Fire Punch for Emboar
    Dragon Dance for Flygon
    if that happened, I would be sooooo happy.

    also if Jolteon got Nasty Plot, That would be soooooooooooo Epic, even with it's small Movepool.
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