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    -Samurott knows Megahorn but no Horn/Fury Attack?

    -Chikorita can learn vine whip in the anime, but not in the game
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    Quote Originally Posted by budderytorterra7 View Post
    Charizard= No Dragon.
    Gyarados= No Dragon.
    Vibrava= DRAGON!
    Just because they're draconic doesn't mean that they're dragons. Some dinosaur-based Pokémon are classified as Dragon-type, but not all of them are because of that exact same principle. Furthermore, had Charizard and Gyarados been made Dragon-types initially, they would have been too broken in Gen I.

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    How is gyarados a flying type and how come sisor can't learn fly







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    Quote Originally Posted by jrs View Post
    How is gyarados a flying type and how come sisor can't learn fly
    Because Gyrados is based on Chinese dragons and a sea serpent so the combination of water/dragon, dragon/flying, or water/flying is the best type combination. and besides, the only dragon types at the time were the dratini line, mainly because they are the most overpowered type next to psychic during the time.

    Scyther cant fly maybe because his wings cant support huch of its weight but scizor's body is made of metal
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    About lucario being a steel type issue, his skeleton doesn't have to be solid steel, it could just be laced with a metallic substance. like wolverine from X-men, he doesn't seem to have an issue with blood cells or anything, and his skeletal structure is covered in metal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuraikarasu View Post
    About lucario being a steel type issue, his skeleton doesn't have to be solid steel, it could just be laced with a metallic substance. like wolverine from X-men, he doesn't seem to have an issue with blood cells or anything, and his skeletal structure is covered in metal.
    Agreed. The same applies to Empoleon as well, who comes short of a steel type appearance in any way?

    And for the Gastly line being part Poison, why can't they learn Poison type moves by level up? Being gas Pokémon, they should be at least able to learn Poison Gas.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Shuckle View Post
    Assuming that these pokemon are made of steel wouldn't that make every pokemon made of what it is? Is Blastoise an exoskeleton of water? Alakazam one of what, psychic material?
    Three things about what you just said:
    1.) Steel is nothing more than a material. It is not a projectile like water or fire or electricity. Therefore, the Pokemon must be mostly metallic in some way for it to be the type, otherwise, the defenses would make no sense.
    2.) Assuming that Pokemon do have at least similar bodily systems to regular animals, yeah, Blastoise is probably 75% water, if not more.
    3.) I'm sure Alakazam isn't made up of a psychic material, but I'm sure it's defenses are psychic related. Surely these Pokemon have the ability to heighten their body's defenses using psychic abilities, i.e. Light Screen, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperDaikenki View Post
    Chikorita can learn vine whip in the anime, but not in the game
    it can learn Vine Whip, via breeding. Ever since Gen 2, which is the Gen it is introduced.

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    - How the Vanillite family don't melt

    - Scyther can't fly but a Dodou and Dodeio can

    - How Diglett comes out of its Pokeball in the air but somehow gets underground in the blink of an eye

    - How Diglett and Dugtrio never show their bodies

    - How Spinda can see when it's eyes are swirls

    - How Rhyhorb line can surf but Magikarp can

    - How your bag can fit x99 of every item in the game

    - How Sylveon grew a ribbon on its chest

    - How Pelliper's mouth takes up its whole body

    - How Ghetsis' Pokemon from BW leveled down two years later

    - How extremely sharp icicle spears made from a legendary we're just going to "freeze" you

    - How the gravity on Cycle Road is different from the rest of the world

    - How trainers can literally stop you in your tracks on Cycle Road

    - How you can only run with a specific pair or shoes

    - How a Thunder from Zekrom that is maxed out from Dragon Dance simply makes a Lv. 2 Pidgey faint.

    - How Dialga and Palkia just let Cyrus take over them

    - How a 10 year old climbed atop the highest mountain in The pokemon world with the temperatures being way below zero and still managed to survive with just a hat and some average clothes on

    - How Zoroark can't talk when in any other human form, but could when it transformed into Nurse Joy

    - How Chespin come out their eggs with a hard shell made of leaves

    - How Pikachu forgot its strongest and most valuable move for Electro Ball

    - How Pikachu lost to a Lv. 5 Snivy even though it could still use Iron Tail and Quick Attack just two episodes after tying with a Latios

    - How Blue defeated Lance and became Champion but when you defeated Blue, the current champion, you got nothing but a hall of fame entry, a good job; Not even a damn party, and you didn't even get a ride home, YOU DIDN'T EVEN BECOME CHAMPION?

    - Final One: How Ash traveled 5 regions, two archipelagos, the same region again, and his voice got deeper - But is still 10 years old.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nuzamaki90 View Post
    - How the Vanillite family don't melt
    Because they're not really ice; they're organic material like skin and bones.

    Quote Originally Posted by nuzamaki90 View Post
    - Scyther can't fly but a Dodou and Dodeio can
    I can't explain Doduo/Dodrio, but Scyther can fly. It simply can't execute the technique Fly, probably because its wings will only allow it to go so high. Chickens have wings, but you can't teach them to fly like eagles.

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    - How Diglett and Dugtrio never show their bodies
    By staying underground? No one is forcing them to come up.

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    - How Spinda can see when it's eyes are swirls
    Because it's fiction and it's designed that way.

    Besides, how do you know the swirls aren't just more fur patterns and that it doesn't just have eyes under its fur?

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    - How Rhyhorb line can surf but Magikarp can
    Again, Surf is an offensive technique. Obviously they can both swim, but only Rhyhorn has the capacity to use that ability offensively.

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    - How your bag can fit x99 of every item in the game
    RPG staple; isn't meant to be taken literally.

    That being said, matter-to-energy conversion technology exists in the Pokémon world.

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    - How Sylveon grew a ribbon on its chest
    Assuming that it's not just a part of its body (which it probably is), how does any Pokémon with clothes get them?

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    - How Pelliper's mouth takes up its whole body
    Because it's fiction and it's designed that way.

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    - How Ghetsis' Pokemon from BW leveled down two years later
    Levels aren't tangible things that can be calculated; they're a measure of strength. Ghetsis treats his Pokémon terribly, so they probably aren't growing or being trained properly.

    Quote Originally Posted by nuzamaki90 View Post
    - How extremely sharp icicle spears made from a legendary we're just going to "freeze" you
    Assuming that he wasn't just using "freeze" as a euphemism for "stop; kill" (which he probably was), the icicles simply bend around the target before they impale it.

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    - How the gravity on Cycle Road is different from the rest of the world
    ...Cycling Road is just a downhill slope...

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    - How trainers can literally stop you in your tracks on Cycle Road
    Get on a bike.

    Ride said bike down a hill.

    Slow down said bike and put your foot on the ground.

    Quote Originally Posted by nuzamaki90 View Post
    - How you can only run with a specific pair or shoes
    Your regular shoes are simply not meant for running in. Have you tried running in flats or dress shoes before? It not as comfortable as running in tennis shoes, and you can't run as well in them, either.

    Quote Originally Posted by nuzamaki90 View Post
    - How a Thunder from Zekrom that is maxed out from Dragon Dance simply makes a Lv. 2 Pidgey faint.
    Because it's simply a fighting technique; it's not meant to kill.

    Quote Originally Posted by nuzamaki90 View Post
    - How Dialga and Palkia just let Cyrus take over them
    He was going to force them to obey him with the Red Chains, which were forged from the crystals that are embedded in the Lake Trio's heads. The Lake Trio have the ability to pacify (and thereby affect the minds of) Dialga and Palkia.

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    - How Zoroark can't talk when in any other human form, but could when it transformed into Nurse Joy
    I assume this is about the anime; in the games, Zoroark can speak just fine.

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    - How Chespin come out their eggs with a hard shell made of leaves
    Because it's fiction and it's designed that way.

    Quote Originally Posted by nuzamaki90 View Post
    - How Pikachu lost to a Lv. 5 Snivy even though it could still use Iron Tail and Quick Attack just two episodes after tying with a Latios
    Again, levels are not tangible things (in fact, levels don't really exist in the anime). Trip is a trainer with a lot of potential, so he was able to exploit Pikachu's weakness to his advantage.

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    - How Blue defeated Lance and became Champion but when you defeated Blue, the current champion, you got nothing but a hall of fame entry, a good job; Not even a damn party, and you didn't even get a ride home, YOU DIDN'T EVEN BECOME CHAMPION?
    You relinquished the position in order to continue your travels.

    Quote Originally Posted by nuzamaki90 View Post
    - Final One: How Ash traveled 5 regions, two archipelagos, the same region again, and his voice got deeper - But is still 10 years old.
    How can Bart Simpson be 10 years old for 24 years?

    Simple - it's fiction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Endolise View Post
    Because they're not really ice; they're organic material like skin and bones.



    I can't explain Doduo/Dodrio, but Scyther can fly. It simply can't execute the technique Fly, probably because its wings will only allow it to go so high. Chickens have wings, but you can't teach them to fly like eagles.



    By staying underground? No one is forcing them to come up.



    Because it's fiction and it's designed that way.

    Besides, how do you know the swirls aren't just more fur patterns and that it doesn't just have eyes under its fur?



    Again, Surf is an offensive technique. Obviously they can both swim, but only Rhyhorn has the capacity to use that ability offensively.



    RPG staple; isn't meant to be taken literally.

    That being said, matter-to-energy conversion technology exists in the Pokémon world.



    Assuming that it's not just a part of its body (which it probably is), how does any Pokémon with clothes get them?



    Because it's fiction and it's designed that way.



    Levels aren't tangible things that can be calculated; they're a measure of strength. Ghetsis treats his Pokémon terribly, so they probably aren't growing or being trained properly.



    Assuming that he wasn't just using "freeze" as a euphemism for "stop; kill" (which he probably was), the icicles simply bend around the target before they impale it.



    ...Cycling Road is just a downhill slope...



    Get on a bike.

    Ride said bike down a hill.

    Slow down said bike and put your foot on the ground.



    Your regular shoes are simply not meant for running in. Have you tried running in flats or dress shoes before? It not as comfortable as running in tennis shoes, and you can't run as well in them, either.



    Because it's simply a fighting technique; it's not meant to kill.



    He was going to force them to obey him with the Red Chains, which were forged from the crystals that are embedded in the Lake Trio's heads. The Lake Trio have the ability to pacify (and thereby affect the minds of) Dialga and Palkia.



    I assume this is about the anime; in the games, Zoroark can speak just fine.



    Because it's fiction and it's designed that way.



    Again, levels are not tangible things (in fact, levels don't really exist in the anime). Trip is a trainer with a lot of potential, so he was able to exploit Pikachu's weakness to his advantage.



    You relinquished the position in order to continue your travels.



    How can Bart Simpson be 10 years old for 24 years?

    Simple - it's fiction.
    Although I agree with 95% of your logic regarding Pokemon, I don't think the "fiction" excuse will really suffice in this situation. In order to really clear the confusion, we really have to come up with some explanation.

    To @nuzamaki90
    Pelipper- Just because Pelipper's beak extends into the lower portion of its body does not mean that "its mouth is half of its body." Besides, have you ever seen a pelican? They're mouths are pretty large.
    Chespin- I'm assuming the same as turtles. Turtles are born from eggs and have shells. Why can't Chespin?
    Ash- The most logical explanation is that Ash's adventures are divided into 20 minute episodes. No one ever said that each episode accounts for one full day. Some episodes could possibly be just an hour or two of Ash's life, meaning that you could combine several episodes to complete one day. Also, how long did it take you to complete an entire game of Pokemon? I would say it takes around 30 hours average. Take one game from each generation, multiply it by the amount of playtime, and you've got 150 hours. That's 10 days if you sleep 9 hours a night. If you can do it, why can't Ash?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SlowPokeBroKing View Post
    Ash- The most logical explanation is that Ash's adventures are divided into 20 minute episodes. No one ever said that each episode accounts for one full day. Some episodes could possibly be just an hour or two of Ash's life, meaning that you could combine several episodes to complete one day. Also, how long did it take you to complete an entire game of Pokemon? I would say it takes around 30 hours average. Take one game from each generation, multiply it by the amount of playtime, and you've got 150 hours. That's 10 days if you sleep 9 hours a night. If you can do it, why can't Ash?
    In the Anime, it is established that it takes Trainers somewhere between one and three days on average to get to Viridian City (which is the closest city, distance-wise from a town), right? It took Ash a full day, biking there for most of that time (he rushed, because Pikachu was injured). From Viridian City to Viridian Forest is about the same distance (and Ash wasn't rushing). Through the forest is about the same distance, and from the forest to Pewter City is the same distance (a total of about three times as far apart as the first and second town). Caterpie evolved TWICE while Ash was in Viridian Forest, by the way (and I seem to remember something about Metapod taking two full weeks to evolve into Butterfree in the Anime continuity). And that's not counting the fact that he regularly stopped and spent the night at random peoples' houses, or the fact that every time he got to a City, or Pokemon Center, he probably healed his Pokemon (something that was established early on to take about a full day on average).

    Therefore, that must mean, the Regions take several months at the very least to get through (probably closer to a year).
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    Quote Originally Posted by SBaby View Post
    In the Anime, it is established that it takes Trainers somewhere between one and three days on average to get to Viridian City (which is the closest city, distance-wise from a town), right? It took Ash a full day, biking there for most of that time (he rushed, because Pikachu was injured). From Viridian City to Viridian Forest is about the same distance (and Ash wasn't rushing). Through the forest is about the same distance, and from the forest to Pewter City is the same distance (a total of about three times as far apart as the first and second town). Caterpie evolved TWICE while Ash was in Viridian Forest, by the way (and I seem to remember something about Metapod taking two full weeks to evolve into Butterfree in the Anime continuity). And that's not counting the fact that he regularly stopped and spent the night at random peoples' houses, or the fact that every time he got to a City, or Pokemon Center, he probably healed his Pokemon (something that was established early on to take about a full day on average).

    Therefore, that must mean, the Regions take several months at the very least to get through (probably closer to a year).
    I understand that some episodes portray him sleeping or it mentioning exactly how long places took to get to, but there are several episodes that only examine only a couple hours of Ash's time, tops.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SlowPokeBroKing View Post
    I understand that some episodes portray him sleeping or it mentioning exactly how long places took to get to, but there are several episodes that only examine only a couple hours of Ash's time, tops.
    Yeah, but bear in mind that the average Region takes over 100 episodes to complete. And also keep in mind that there were times when Ash was stuck in an area for upwards of a month (Safari Zone). Not to mention Ash takes every scenic route imaginable, and all ON FOOT.

    The point I would make here is, nobody could do all that in 10 days. It just can't happen. It's physically impossible.

    Even the Power Rangers couldn't do all that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SBaby View Post
    Yeah, but bear in mind that the average Region takes over 100 episodes to complete. And also keep in mind that there were times when Ash was stuck in an area for upwards of a month (Safari Zone). Not to mention Ash takes every scenic route imaginable, and all ON FOOT.

    The point I would make here is, nobody could do all that in 10 days. It just can't happen. It's physically impossible.
    I was exaggerating, yeah, but I don't think there are any logical explanations so I'm just trying to come up with the best I can.
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    How can there be fully-evolved pokemon running wild and with trainers when they're WELL BELOW the level at which their pre-evolution evolves? (lvl 23 Rapidash and lvl 15 Weezing, for example... Ponyta evolves at lvl 40 and Koffing at lvl 35)

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    Samurott knows Megahorn but not Horn Attack? Wut?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyberra View Post
    How can there be fully-evolved pokemon running wild and with trainers when they're WELL BELOW the level at which their pre-evolution evolves? (lvl 23 Rapidash and lvl 15 Weezing, for example... Ponyta evolves at lvl 40 and Koffing at lvl 35)
    Not to mention Ghetsis's underleveled Hydreigon at Level 54 (or so).




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    The whole "why they are typed like this" matter. Just here's a few that can come to mind right now.

    * Lucario and Empoleon being part-steel
    * Regional Birds being part Normal
    * Charizard and Gyrados for being part-Flying even though they are clearly part-dragon
    * Lapras being part-Ice
    * Slowpoke and Slobro being part Psychic

    Another matter is the fact that Pokémon like Remoraid and Shelder remain in tact when they help Mantyke and Slopoke evolve. Don't understand it through game mechanics but at least it's shown that it does happen in the anime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaAuraWolf View Post
    * Charizard and Gyrados for being part-Flying even though they are clearly part-dragon
    as has been mentioned numerous times, the main reason is for game balance. The starter elemental triangle + the fact that nothing would be able to hit them for SE damage in Gen 1 if they are part Dragon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaAuraWolf View Post
    The whole "why they are typed like this" matter. Just here's a few that can come to mind right now.

    * Lucario and Empoleon being part-steel
    * Regional Birds being part Normal
    * Charizard and Gyrados for being part-Flying even though they are clearly part-dragon
    * Lapras being part-Ice
    * Slowpoke and Slobro being part Psychic

    Another matter is the fact that Pokémon like Remoraid and Shelder remain in tact when they help Mantyke and Slopoke evolve. Don't understand it through game mechanics but at least it's shown that it does happen in the anime.
    Well, lucario has iron spikes on his hands and empoleon has iron wings. What I don't get is that scizor is bug/steel.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Minedreigon View Post
    What I don't get is that scizor is bug/steel.
    Perhaps due to its visible Metallic coating, albeit thin?




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    Quote Originally Posted by Azimuth1011 View Post
    Perhaps due to its visible Metallic coating, albeit thin?
    I just noticed that. That'll be it.



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    Lucario can't learn Mach punch, but it can learn bullet punch. Why?
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