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    Quote Originally Posted by Agonist View Post
    ... Gorillas can run twenty to twenty-five mph in real life. That's not particularly slow.
    But it is slower than a bird of prey at top speed (peregrine falcons in particular have been known to reach speeds of over 100 mph when diving).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyro13 View Post
    Solosis having more special attack than Arceus.. I mean, it's a ball.. Of goo.. With a face..
    I think the problem here is that people expect Legendaries to be some sort of "higher class" of Pokemon in all respects, when in reality, Legendaries are just abnormally powerful by comparison. Not totally superior, just in possession more more raw power. The best thing to look at in cases like this is probably the Pokemon-in-question's BST, which generally gives us a good idea as to what that Pokemon's overall level of potency is.
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    Haven't read every reply, so some of these might have been said before;
    1) I just hatched a Kangaskhan from an egg. It has a baby in its pouch. Shouldn't the pokemon just hatched be that baby?
    2) Ten year old children being out of school and travelling the world, on their own.
    3) You can wander into just about any house you like and no one ever bats an eyelid.
    4) Why does Glacia, an Ice type specialist, base herself in Hoenn, where only two families of ice types exist?
    5) Why was Flint an Elite Four member in D/P? Had he been an early Gym Leader with, say, Monferno and Ponyta, no one would have batted an eyelid!
    6) How can I evolve Slowpoke into Slowbro or Slowking without a Shellder on my team? For that matter, how can I do so when I am miles away from the sea meaning they can't get one themselves, such as up a mountain or in a desert?
    7) Why does Remoraid, a fish, and thus an animal with a spine, evolve into an Octillery, a cephalopod mollusc without a bone in its body. Where is the link, apart from them both living in water?
    8) I just lost to a wild pokemon and somehow dropped 236 pokemon dollars whilst escaping. How did that happen? Why does the character not keep a hold of such an important thing as his money?
    9) Bastiodon (based on Triceratops), Rampardos (based on Pachycephalosaurus), Archeops (based on Archeopteryx), Carracostoa (based on Archelon), Aerodactyl (based on a Pterosaur) and Omastar (based on an Ammonite) are all extinct, and yet Meganium (Camarasaurus), Tyranitar (Tyrannosaurus), Lapras (Plesiosaurus), Tropius (Brachiosaurus), Krookodile (Baryonyx, sort of), Sceptile (sort of Dilophosaurus), Torterra (Sort of Ankylosaurus), Mamoswine (a Woolly Mammoth/Pig) and Raikou (a Sabre-toothed Cat) clearly are not. How has that happened?
    10) Why do six Exeggcute (whose pokedex entries clearly specify are individuals) only grow into one Exeggutor?
    11) If those indiviual Exeggcute gather together, why are they always in groups of six, and why is one always smashed?
    12) If I can catch a group of six Exeggcute all in one pokeball, why can't I do that with a school of Goldeen, a flock of Pidgey or better yet a mix and match? You can battle two wild pokemon at a time in some circumstances. Why don't the same rules apply here as with Exeggcute?
    13) How do I get a Mageton when I only caught one Magnemite?
    14) Why does Eevee not evolve into the Sun Pokemon Espeon through use of the Sun Stone? For that matter, what about the Moon Pokemon Umbreon and the Moon Stone?
    15) There are no pokemon based on Dolphins, a type of animal just about everybody loves.
    16) Why does Luvdisc not evolve into Alomomola, when quite clearly it should, especially when you look at some of the other pokemon evolutions (like Remoraid to Octillery, as mentioned above)
    17) Why only four moves? Surely by now it is possible to expand on this number. Are Pokemon actually dumber than most sources make out?
    18) If Alakazam has an IQ of more than 5000 and can remember everything it has encountered since birth, why does it "forget" an old move like every other pokemon?
    19) For that matter, how do Psyduck and Slowpoke remember any moves at all?
    20) I can battle with my Charmeleon when underwater.
    21) How does battling with an Electrode on a mountainside not have more disasterous results?
    22) When can we have Double-Edge, Razor Wind, BubbleBeam, Seismic Toss, Dragonbreath, Body Slam and Mega Punch back as TM moves, or at least move tutor moves?
    23) Squirtle can learn Bubble, but not upgrade to BubbleBeam?
    24) Vaporeon is the Bubble Jet Pokemon, and yet learns neither Bubble nor BubbleBeam.
    25) We still cannot really choose our trainer's appearance. Is it that hard to give us a choice of, say, three boys and three girls? The Union Room changes our appearance to a different sprite, why can't we play as that sprite? It can't be too hard.
    26) Lickitung. What is it, besides odd?
    27) Wobbuffet. What is it, besides odd?
    28) Nidoking, Nidoqueen and Rhydon. The basically the same design occurring three times in the same Generation.
    29) Garbodor. Who designed it, who approved it, and were they fired for it?
    30) No one at Nintendo saw Jynx's design as being potentially problematic when preparing to release the games outside of Japan.
    31) Tangela. Not saying its bad or anything, but what is it hiding? What could be more embarrasing than its bright red boots.
    32) Come to that, where did Tangela get its red boots?
    33) When Timburr evolves into Gurdurr, how does its wooden post become a metal gurdur? People complain about evolution being in the games, yet no one bats an eyelid at this blatant violation of the laws of physics!
    34) Cubone wears the skull of its dead mother, and yet I can breed Marowak in game, the offspring is wearing a skull and the mother is still alive.
    35) Also, you can breed a male Marowak with a Ditto and still get a Cubone with a skull on its head. Where did the skull come from, as Ditto has no bones at all.
    36) The daycare couple. How close a watch are they actually keeping on my pokemon when, even after two hundred eggs, the couple still don't know where the eggs come from!
    37) Magby, Magmar and Magmortar. What the hell are they?
    38) Grimer evolves into Muk. How does that actually work? Essentially Muk is just a bigger Grimer.
    39) How can Vespiquen's Heal Order, Attack Order and Defend Order moves work when I am on a mountainside, miles away from the habitat of the Combee?
    40) Who discovered you could get milk from a Miltank and what the hell did he think he was doing at the time?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sprinter1988 View Post
    5) Why was Flint an Elite Four member in D/P? Had he been an early Gym Leader with, say, Monferno and Ponyta, no one would have batted an eyelid!
    What in the world does this even mean? "Why was he an E4 member?" Because that is what Game Freak made him. Is there some sort of logic to you're thinking that he should've just been a random trainer?
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    Quote Originally Posted by randomspot555 View Post
    What in the world does this even mean? "Why was he an E4 member?" Because that is what Game Freak made him. Is there some sort of logic to you're thinking that he should've just been a random trainer?
    I think he's trying to say that it didn't make much sense for Flint to have only two Fire-types on his team in DP. Had he been an early Gym Leader, he would have gotten away with it a little easier, considering DP's Fire-type distribution was horrendous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crimson Penguin View Post
    I think he's trying to say that it didn't make much sense for Flint to have only two Fire-types on his team in DP. Had he been an early Gym Leader, he would have gotten away with it a little easier, considering DP's Fire-type distribution was horrendous.
    My point exactly. As an Elite Four member, the D/P Flint just didn't work. It was great that Platinum corrected this.
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    -Exeggcute->Exeggutor
    -Remoraid->Octillary
    -Kangaskhan
    -Colress' hair
    -Gary MF Oak's swag
    -People's obsession with character customization in the main series
    -Nidoqueen's inability to breed\
    -Breaking and Entering,though this can apply to RPGs as a whole
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sprinter1988 View Post
    Haven't read every reply, so some of these might have been said before;
    1) I just hatched a Kangaskhan from an egg. It has a baby in its pouch. Shouldn't the pokemon just hatched be that baby?
    2) Ten year old children being out of school and travelling the world, on their own.
    3) You can wander into just about any house you like and no one ever bats an eyelid.
    4) Why does Glacia, an Ice type specialist, base herself in Hoenn, where only two families of ice types exist?
    5) Why was Flint an Elite Four member in D/P? Had he been an early Gym Leader with, say, Monferno and Ponyta, no one would have batted an eyelid!
    6) How can I evolve Slowpoke into Slowbro or Slowking without a Shellder on my team? For that matter, how can I do so when I am miles away from the sea meaning they can't get one themselves, such as up a mountain or in a desert?
    7) Why does Remoraid, a fish, and thus an animal with a spine, evolve into an Octillery, a cephalopod mollusc without a bone in its body. Where is the link, apart from them both living in water?
    8) I just lost to a wild pokemon and somehow dropped 236 pokemon dollars whilst escaping. How did that happen? Why does the character not keep a hold of such an important thing as his money?
    9) Bastiodon (based on Triceratops), Rampardos (based on Pachycephalosaurus), Archeops (based on Archeopteryx), Carracostoa (based on Archelon), Aerodactyl (based on a Pterosaur) and Omastar (based on an Ammonite) are all extinct, and yet Meganium (Camarasaurus), Tyranitar (Tyrannosaurus), Lapras (Plesiosaurus), Tropius (Brachiosaurus), Krookodile (Baryonyx, sort of), Sceptile (sort of Dilophosaurus), Torterra (Sort of Ankylosaurus), Mamoswine (a Woolly Mammoth/Pig) and Raikou (a Sabre-toothed Cat) clearly are not. How has that happened?
    10) Why do six Exeggcute (whose pokedex entries clearly specify are individuals) only grow into one Exeggutor?
    11) If those indiviual Exeggcute gather together, why are they always in groups of six, and why is one always smashed?
    12) If I can catch a group of six Exeggcute all in one pokeball, why can't I do that with a school of Goldeen, a flock of Pidgey or better yet a mix and match? You can battle two wild pokemon at a time in some circumstances. Why don't the same rules apply here as with Exeggcute?
    13) How do I get a Mageton when I only caught one Magnemite?
    14) Why does Eevee not evolve into the Sun Pokemon Espeon through use of the Sun Stone? For that matter, what about the Moon Pokemon Umbreon and the Moon Stone?
    15) There are no pokemon based on Dolphins, a type of animal just about everybody loves.
    16) Why does Luvdisc not evolve into Alomomola, when quite clearly it should, especially when you look at some of the other pokemon evolutions (like Remoraid to Octillery, as mentioned above)
    17) Why only four moves? Surely by now it is possible to expand on this number. Are Pokemon actually dumber than most sources make out?
    18) If Alakazam has an IQ of more than 5000 and can remember everything it has encountered since birth, why does it "forget" an old move like every other pokemon?
    19) For that matter, how do Psyduck and Slowpoke remember any moves at all?
    20) I can battle with my Charmeleon when underwater.
    21) How does battling with an Electrode on a mountainside not have more disasterous results?
    22) When can we have Double-Edge, Razor Wind, BubbleBeam, Seismic Toss, Dragonbreath, Body Slam and Mega Punch back as TM moves, or at least move tutor moves?
    23) Squirtle can learn Bubble, but not upgrade to BubbleBeam?
    24) Vaporeon is the Bubble Jet Pokemon, and yet learns neither Bubble nor BubbleBeam.
    25) We still cannot really choose our trainer's appearance. Is it that hard to give us a choice of, say, three boys and three girls? The Union Room changes our appearance to a different sprite, why can't we play as that sprite? It can't be too hard.
    26) Lickitung. What is it, besides odd?
    27) Wobbuffet. What is it, besides odd?
    28) Nidoking, Nidoqueen and Rhydon. The basically the same design occurring three times in the same Generation.
    29) Garbodor. Who designed it, who approved it, and were they fired for it?
    30) No one at Nintendo saw Jynx's design as being potentially problematic when preparing to release the games outside of Japan.
    31) Tangela. Not saying its bad or anything, but what is it hiding? What could be more embarrasing than its bright red boots.
    32) Come to that, where did Tangela get its red boots?
    33) When Timburr evolves into Gurdurr, how does its wooden post become a metal gurdur? People complain about evolution being in the games, yet no one bats an eyelid at this blatant violation of the laws of physics!
    34) Cubone wears the skull of its dead mother, and yet I can breed Marowak in game, the offspring is wearing a skull and the mother is still alive.
    35) Also, you can breed a male Marowak with a Ditto and still get a Cubone with a skull on its head. Where did the skull come from, as Ditto has no bones at all.
    36) The daycare couple. How close a watch are they actually keeping on my pokemon when, even after two hundred eggs, the couple still don't know where the eggs come from!
    37) Magby, Magmar and Magmortar. What the hell are they?
    38) Grimer evolves into Muk. How does that actually work? Essentially Muk is just a bigger Grimer.
    39) How can Vespiquen's Heal Order, Attack Order and Defend Order moves work when I am on a mountainside, miles away from the habitat of the Combee?
    40) Who discovered you could get milk from a Miltank and what the hell did he think he was doing at the time?
    So many of these have already been answered.

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    29) Garbodor. Who designed it, who approved it, and were they fired for it?
    For this one specifically, you should probably expect to get yelled at. I'm too sick of the anti-Garbodor/Vanillite/Klink crap to bother, though.
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    Explain how Ash has encountered maybe 275,000 Pokemon and has found maybe 4 wild Shinies.

    EDIT: Love everything in the qoute above, especially the Marowak and Charmeleon underwater thing. Like, really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chapter of Charizard View Post
    Explain how Ash has encountered maybe 275,000 Pokemon and has found maybe 4 wild Shinies.
    Sounds about right according to my shiny encounter record.
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    Listen, you gotta remember these things; always avoid claims of Fennekin being (or becoming) part Fighting-type, don't tick off mods, and NEVER (and I mean NEVER!) suggest that Arceus is the God of Pokemon when Endolise is online. If you somehow make this mistake, run for the hills before he attempts to murder you via tongue lashing.

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    Eh... I mean, that is a ton of encounter. Lets say you encounter 20,000 pokemon. As the odds are about 8,000, you'd think that you would get 2 Pokemon out of the 20,000. If Ash has encountered something near a quarter million or a half million, how has he seen so few? What like, a shiny hoot-hoot, a shiny butterfree and then i think there was that trainer w/ a shiny ditto? there were more, but a lot owned by trainers. If i get 1 shiny in about 8000, ash shouldve seen 34.375. That's 275,000 / 8,000. Please explain.

    EDIT: Thats what I thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Born Better View Post
    -Exeggcute->Exeggutor
    Seed > Tree
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    -Remoraid->Octillary
    Gun > Cannon
    Quote Originally Posted by Born Better View Post
    -Kangaskhan
    what about Kangaskhan? it's a kangaroo dinosaur.
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    -Colress' hair
    His hair is awesome, what's your problem with it.
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    -Gary MF Oak's swag
    I don't think he has it e.0
    Quote Originally Posted by Born Better View Post
    -People's obsession with character customization in the main series
    Well some of the characters like the gen4 male are often let downs to alot of people, the idea of dressing your character to your specifications can be very appealing to most people.
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    -Nidoqueen's inability to breed\
    This one makes no sense to me either.
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    -Breaking and Entering,though this can apply to RPGs as a whole
    you mean just walking into houses? well maybe everyone in the pokemon world is just super nice.
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    -How Pika managed to break an Onix
    It didn't, it set of the fire sprinklers and the water was what broke Onix.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zachmac View Post
    The pokemon has to shoot the attack first.

    They might move at light speed, but the pokemon may not have it's chance to fire until it's hit.
    the opponent is only 3 metres away that beam would have struck it in the nanosecond range its impossible to react to light speed attacks
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    I'm sure this has been answered somewhere already, and maybe it doesn't even apply to this particular thread, but why does Ash's Pikachu seem to revert to level 5 at the beginning of every new region?

    Also, Beldum's catch rate.. It has the same catch rate as Mewtwo.. And a lower catch rate than Kyogre and Groudon (Though I know that's just to make catching them somewhat possible when they're the mascot legendary)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyro13 View Post
    but why does Ash's Pikachu seem to revert to level 5 at the beginning of every new region?
    He doesn't. "Levels" in the anime aren't some fixed number. Just like an athlete can't sit on their butt and expect to still be in tip top shape, the same goes for Pokemon.

    Also: In Hoenn and Unova, there are specific reasons why Pikachu is weakened at the beginning of the saga and anyone who actually bothered to watch the episodes instead of repeating anime-hating talking points would know why.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blood Red Absol View Post
    Gun > Cannon
    This only covers the design aspect behind Remoraid and Octillery, not the biological transition from a fish to an octopus.

    Having said that, this answer doesn't necessarily automatically make Remoraid's transition from fish to octopus make sense.





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    Quote Originally Posted by Sprinter1988 View Post
    2) Ten year old children being out of school and travelling the world, on their own.
    Different culture.

    We have that even in our world; see how the legislation varies from country to country when it comes to the minimum age for driving, buying alcoholic beverage, or to be judged with criminal responsibility. That depends on the country, on the culture, so you can simply say people in Pokémonland think 10-year-olds are old enough to go on a journey (even because they will be acompanied by superpowerful pets).

    But in fact, no one said anything about ten years in the game, that's anime stuff. We know Red was 11 when he started his journey, and we've seen far younger people traveling around too, while the BW characters were considerably older than 11 when they left Nuvema Town. There seems to be no age restriction in the games.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sprinter1988 View Post
    3) You can wander into just about any house you like and no one ever bats an eyelid.
    RPG.

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    4) Why does Glacia, an Ice type specialist, base herself in Hoenn, where only two families of ice types exist?
    Hoenn is not her home region, she says that in her dialogue.

    She probably comes from a colder region with more Ice-types and went to Hoenn in order to hone her skills by training in unfavorable climate, since Hoenn seems to be a tropical region.

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    5) Why was Flint an Elite Four member in D/P? Had he been an early Gym Leader with, say, Monferno and Ponyta, no one would have batted an eyelid!
    This doesn't even make any sense.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sprinter1988 View Post
    6) How can I evolve Slowpoke into Slowbro or Slowking without a Shellder on my team? For that matter, how can I do so when I am miles away from the sea meaning they can't get one themselves, such as up a mountain or in a desert?
    Because games were more limited back in that day. If Slowpoke was introduced in, say, Gen IV, it would probably have an evolution method similar to that of Mantyke.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sprinter1988 View Post
    7) Why does Remoraid, a fish, and thus an animal with a spine, evolve into an Octillery, a cephalopod mollusc without a bone in its body. Where is the link, apart from them both living in water?
    Revolver and gun. Plus, Pokémon evolution is a magical thing, they gain mass from nowhere, sprout wings, develop new powers out of the blue, even change types.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sprinter1988 View Post
    9) Bastiodon (based on Triceratops), Rampardos (based on Pachycephalosaurus), Archeops (based on Archeopteryx), Carracostoa (based on Archelon), Aerodactyl (based on a Pterosaur) and Omastar (based on an Ammonite) are all extinct, and yet Meganium (Camarasaurus), Tyranitar (Tyrannosaurus), Lapras (Plesiosaurus), Tropius (Brachiosaurus), Krookodile (Baryonyx, sort of), Sceptile (sort of Dilophosaurus), Torterra (Sort of Ankylosaurus), Mamoswine (a Woolly Mammoth/Pig) and Raikou (a Sabre-toothed Cat) clearly are not. How has that happened?
    The Pokémon you mentioned were based on these animals, they're not these animals. We can simply assume the ones who still exist came to be way later.

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    14) Why does Eevee not evolve into the Sun Pokemon Espeon through use of the Sun Stone? For that matter, what about the Moon Pokemon Umbreon and the Moon Stone?
    Because it doesn't react at all to the radiation of either stone. Going by your logic, Larvesta should evolve into Sun Pokémon Volcarona by being exposed to the Sun Stone too.

    Out-of-universe, they needed to create a new method of evolution in order to justify why Eevee couldn't evolve into Espeon and Umbreon before. If they went by your logic, in-universe it wouldn't make sense, because said Stones wouldn't do anything to Eevee if you tried to use them one Generation before.

    I would go on but I got tired, maybe one day.
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    What I don't get is why a Criminal Organisation who using a Casino or Game Corner as a front for their secret hideout doesn't have a sign out which says "No Under 18's allowed".
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    Quote Originally Posted by gamer_legend View Post
    What I don't get is why a Criminal Organisation who using a Casino or Game Corner as a front for their secret hideout doesn't have a sign out which says "No Under 18's allowed".
    Why would it make any difference to them?

    The more, the merrier, I guess. More money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ver-mont View Post
    Why would it make any difference to them?

    The more, the merrier, I guess. More money.
    Yeah but surely having remembered that it was a 10 year old who stopped your grunts in various locations...okay one location (Mt. Moon) you'd figure...maybe we should cover our bases a little better. Mind you to be fair, In Colosseum you could highjack a train straight to the villains secret lab so I guess sometimes it's hard to consider everything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blood Red Absol View Post
    Seed > Tree
    Eggs>Tree

    Gun > Cannon
    Fish>Octopus...or squid
    what about Kangaskhan? it's a kangaroo dinosaur.
    The baby
    His hair is awesome, what's your problem with it.
    He looks like a yugioh villian(I like yugioh)

    I don't think he has it e.0
    You thought wrong

    Well some of the characters like the gen4 male are often let downs to alot of people, the idea of dressing your character to your specifications can be very appealing to most people.
    They're freaking sprites.It'd be a complete waste of time.

    you mean just walking into houses? well maybe everyone in the pokemon world is just super nice.
    Or stupid

    It didn't, it set of the fire sprinklers and the water was what broke Onix.
    Pika.Not Pikachu

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    Quote Originally Posted by Born Better View Post
    -Colress' hair
    This one is actually rather simple. Colress is a scientist, he simply figured out a way for it to defy gravity
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    It might just be an extension. :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feralninja View Post
    This one is actually rather simple. Colress is a scientist, he simply figured out a way for it to defy gravity
    Nah, he just uses lots of hair gel like Cloud and Sora from FFVII and KH. =P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Princess Raspberyl View Post
    Nah, he just uses lots of hair gel like Cloud and Sora from FFVII and KH. =P
    Obviously gravity-defying hair gel. (chew)

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