BW070: Mistralton Gym! VS Skyla Decisive Aerial Battle [INFO: FIRST POST]

[gliscor&yanmega]

Tranquill vs Unfezent Unfezent
Krokorok vs Unfezent Krokorok
Krokorok vs Swoobat Krokorok
Krokorok vs Swanna Swanna
Pikachu vs Swanna Pikachu

Tranquil is confirmed to face Swanna(Which I believe a summary said it was Skyla's ace and is probably the last battle), so it's not losing to Unfezant. As such, Tranquil will be getting a win here most likely, as Tranquil vs Swanna is the final battle and Ash is already moving on to the next gym in the next episode.

Also, it's highly likely Tranquil gets recalled in the Unfezant battle, for Pikachu.

All based on the summaries.

The worse thing than having Pikachu appear in this gym is having him lose badly IMO. The loss against Panpor was bad enough. I don;t wanna see him start losing against flying types now.

This is the way I want the battle to go down:

Skyla....................Ash
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Unzefant...............Tranquill (has a hard time and is recalled for Pikachu)
Unzefant recalled for swoobat
Swoobat................Pikachu recalled and Krokorok sent out (Krokorok wins)
Swanna..................Krokorok battles hard but loses. Pikachu sent out and wins!
Unzefant................ Pikachu's attacks get blocked. Switched for Unzefant, who evolves and wins!

Pikachu's lost against Panpour wasn't bad at all, it was done perfectly well to give it a reasonable lost.

Swanna vs Tranquil is the final battle as a summary states I believe.

I say it should and will go as follow:
Tranquil vs Unfezant-Tranquil recalled(Highly likely based on a summary).

Pikachu vs Unfezant-Pikachu wins. There's no reason to give Unfezant more attention then Skyla's Swanna who is her ace, it should just end here. Pikachu is confirmed to be switched in after Tranquil gets recalled.

Pikachu vs Swoobat-Pikachu loses as it's tired.

Krokorok vs Swoobat-Swoobat wins, Krokorok does good but loses it's sunglasses which causing it the battle. The battle is already confirmed, and personally, I think it's best for it to lose, people complain about lack of development and here is the perfect Pokemon to get develop, and I see so many people wanting and expecting it to win, that's not going to develop it properly. Krokorok should lose, so it can get stronger later on, plus it makes the gym more intense as Ash now only has an exhausted Tranquill to battle with, someone who didn't already he would win would be on the fence most likely.

Tranquill vs Swoobat-Thanks to Krokorok weakening Swoobat, Tranquill gets the win, but is exhausted.

Tranquill vs Swanna-Tranquill is barely holding on. After some words are said by Skyla and Ash, it evolves.

Unfezant vs Swanna-Unfezant gets Roost so it can get back some strength(Or I suppose evolving can just give it full health again, but I feel Roost is the better option plus it's something new to debut to the show). Unfezant wins after a tough battle.

Pikachu gets a win(It's not a bad thing people). Krokorok loses(It's not a bad thing as it lead to development, you'll be getting what some of you've been complaining about, losing isn't a bad thing sometimes). Tranquil gets a win(So it has a win as one and people wont complain). Unfezant gets a win(Gives it it's time to shine after not getting much attention through out the series). In the end, this way everyone wins(Aside from the haters who wants one of the Pokemon dead), Pikachu, Tranquil, and Unfezant gets actual wins, and Krokorok gets his focus on his issue leading to development leading to it becoming even stronger.

[Locormus]

Gliscor&yanmega.. Krokorok losing against Skyla wouldn't lead to development at all. Did Pikachu's loss against Panpour lead to any development for Pikachu for when it faces an inability to use Electricity? No it didn't. Did Tepig's loss against Rock Wrecker mean that it got development for protection against Rock-type moves? No it didn't, because it was easily disposed off when facing Roggenrola when it was wild. In fact, it hasn't even had any development as far as it goes. Then, did Snivy get any development for fighting against Flying types? Nope, didn't get that either.

Krokorok losing, will end with that. Unless it is heavily implied that its loss was only due to it losing its sunglasses. And that will be a really painful loss to see, similar to Grotle vs. Honchkrow..

Though that lead to Grotle being a wimp about its speed for a long while, learning Rock Climb, but then still not being the success story we had hoped it would be. So in short, no good development will probably come off it. At least the result wouldn't be as good.

We've seen Krokorok lose so many times, why wouldn't we want it to win its first battle under Ash?

[gliscor&yanmega]

Gliscor&yanmega.. Krokorok losing against Skyla wouldn't lead to development at all. Did Pikachu's loss against Panpour lead to any development for Pikachu for when it faces an inability to use Electricity? No it didn't. Did Tepig's loss against Rock Wrecker mean that it got development for protection against Rock-type moves? No it didn't, because it was easily disposed off when facing Roggenrola when it was wild. In fact, it hasn't even had any development as far as it goes. Then, did Snivy get any development for fighting against Flying types? Nope, didn't get that either.

Krokorok losing, will end with that. Unless it is heavily implied that its loss was only due to it losing its sunglasses. And that will be a really painful loss to see, similar to Grotle vs. Honchkrow..

Though that lead to Grotle being a wimp about its speed for a long while, learning Rock Climb, but then still not being the success story we had hoped it would be. So in short, no good development will probably come off it. At least the result wouldn't be as good.

We've seen Krokorok lose so many times, why wouldn't we want it to win its first battle under Ash?

Krokorok losing because of it's sunglasses would lead to development because that isn't about losing to a move, it's about losing to a personal issue that would need to be resolved in order to get stronger, it's not the same in any of the cases you listed.

I see it being heavily implied it lost because of it's sunglasses, once they come off it's going to be obvious that that's the reason it lost, that's the reason I had it lose as I stated in my post(s).

Krokorok has lost only once(Being sent flying isn't a lost).

So yes, Krokorok losing due to it's sunglasses issue would build up and lead to development. It getting a win wouldn't be a good thing in my opinion, it should lose in every battle due to it's sunglasses until Ash and it deal with it, then it can go on a winning streak.

[Nacreous]

I can totally see Krokorok having the advantage against Swoobat,deflecting its attacks and almost defeating it and then it loses its sunglasses...and all is lost>.>

[Locormus]

Krokorok losing because of it's sunglasses would lead to development because that isn't about losing to a move, it's about losing to a personal issue that would need to be resolved in order to get stronger, it's not the same in any of the cases you listed.

I see it being heavily implied it lost because of it's sunglasses, once they come off it's going to be obvious that that's the reason it lost, that's the reason I had it lose as I stated in my post(s).

Krokorok has lost only once(Being sent flying isn't a lost).

So yes, Krokorok losing due to it's sunglasses issue would build up and lead to development. It getting a win wouldn't be a good thing in my opinion, it should lose in every battle due to it's sunglasses until Ash and it deal with it, then it can go on a winning streak.

Well, Grotle certainly had a personal issue which was the reason it lost constantly after evolving.. That was partially solved by Paul's Torterra, and then by itself by learning Rock Climb. Never had Ash even attempted to do anything about it.

When could it go on a winning streak? We've got two gyms left!

Krokorok vs. Skyla: Loss
Krokorok in the Donamite: Loss
An episode in which they deal with it.
Krokorok vs. Brycen: Win
Krokorok vs. Drayden: Evolution+Win

Ash vs. Brycen:
- Pignite, Scraggy, Krokorok.
Ash vs. Drayden:
- Dewott, Snivy, Krokorok/Krookodile. <- Learns Outrage..

I can totally see Krokorok having the advantage against Swoobat,deflecting its attacks and almost defeating it and then it loses its sunglasses...and all is lost>.>

WHACK! Energy Ball to the rear!

[gliscor&yanmega]

Well, Grotle certainly had a personal issue which was the reason it lost constantly after evolving.. That was partially solved by Paul's Torterra, and then by itself by learning Rock Climb. Never had Ash even attempted to do anything about it.

When could it go on a winning streak? We've got two gyms left!

Krokorok vs. Skyla: Loss
Krokorok in the Donamite: Loss
An episode in which they deal with it.
Krokorok vs. Brycen: Win
Krokorok vs. Drayden: Evolution+Win

Ash vs. Brycen:
- Pignite, Scraggy, Krokorok.
Ash vs. Drayden:
- Dewott, Snivy, Krokorok/Krookodile. <- Learns Outrage..



WHACK! Energy Ball to the rear!

Whatever, Ash doesn't need to do anything to help, but I believe he will, regardless, it's going to get over it's sunglasses issue one way or another, and they should make the issue more serious, case in point, have it lose due to it all the time.

There's more then just gyms to battle in. There's still a league, whatever other battles there is between now in the league(Non-gym battles), and highly likely post league adventures. By "winning streak", I mean more or less, just it winning from then on and being a powerhouse, not saying it should get 20 wins in a row or anything like that.

[Locormus]

Whatever, Ash doesn't need to do anything to help, but I believe he will, regardless, it's going to get over it's sunglasses issue one way or another, and they should make the issue more serious, case in point, have it lose due to it all the time.

There's more then just gyms to battle in. There's still a league, whatever other battles there is between now in the league(Non-gym battles), and highly likely post league adventures. By "winning streak", I mean more or less, just it winning from then on and being a powerhouse, not saying it should get 20 wins in a row or anything like that.

I know, I just love to dramatize though.. :P

[AceDetective]

I can totally see Krokorok having the advantage against Swoobat,deflecting its attacks and almost defeating it and then it loses its sunglasses...and all is lost>.>

I can see that happeningz. it then leads to training in confidence. maybe krok being used in the tournament people speculate is coming up.

[Crazed Apple]

That would be me. Considering the summary stated that Tranquill was tired after battling Unfezant, that ups the chances of Roost being learned after the evolution +1, if moves need to be learned.

Which could mean a couple of two/three things:
- Protect: Haven't we seen this enough?
- Detect: ZOMG! Something new that does the exact same thing, without the shiny forcefield? -.-'
- Steel Wing on the floor, ala Winona's Pelipper, ala lightning rod, although I'm not sure how that worked exactly..

Wow. That's like the second time I've done that. But it's a great idea and makes a lot of sense. But I hope Swanna doesn't have it....

Yea I think it might just use a wall of Buzzsaws (Airslash) that blocks the incoming electric attacks....sorta like a countershield haha

I can see that happeningz. it then leads to training in confidence. maybe krok being used in the tournament people speculate is coming up.

You mean the battle in BW 72?? I don't think that's a tournament even though it has the word "Don" in it....I rather him just get a win here.

[dd1zzle]

Why is Ash breaking out Krokorok? Like I get it knows stone edge and stuff but seriously bro, I think that Boldore would have been a better shot.

[AceDetective]

Why is Ash breaking out Krokorok? Like I get it knows stone edge and stuff but seriously bro, I think that Boldore would have been a better shot.

probably to try out krokorok. boldores just had a gym so the writers wanted something different. besides I'm not sure if krok learns thunder fang or not. there was some speculations a while back but I'm not sure if its been resolved

[XxEpicsxX]

That looked a lot like Thunder Fang, there were streaks and everything. Unless they decided to make Crunch have sparks, it's probably Thunder Fang.

[G50]

Why is Ash breaking out Krokorok? Like I get it knows stone edge and stuff but seriously bro, I think that Boldore would have been a better shot.

Krokorok makes much more sense here than Boldore because of Korkorok's attacks that work well vs Swoobat. Plus this is Krokorok's best chance for a gym battle. Plus Boldore was just in the last Gym Battle, and starred.

[Torpoleon]

Krokorok makes much more sense here than Boldore because of Korkorok's attacks that work well vs Swoobat. Plus this is Krokorok's best chance for a gym battle. Plus Boldore was just in the last Gym Battle, and starred.

Also, Swoobat's Psychic Type moves are uneffective against Krokorok. Krokorok also has Crunch & Stone Edge and is likely going to learn Thunder Fang, which are all moves that are super effective against Swoobat (even though all of Boldore's moves are super effective on Swoobat and Swoobat's Flying moves are uneffective against it). Also, Boldore was just in a gym battle and got a very solid win against Excadrill. Boldore has a higher chance of being used in the 7th Gym than Krokorok by the way, given the typing.

[G50]

Also, Swoobat's Psychic Type moves are uneffective against Krokorok. Krokorok also has Crunch & Stone Edge and is likely going to learn Thunder Fang, which are all moves that are super effective against Swoobat (even though all of Boldore's moves are super effective on Swoobat and Swoobat's Flying moves are uneffective against it). Also, Boldore was just in a gym battle and got a very solid win against Excadrill. Boldore has a higher chance of being used in the 7th Gym than Krokorok by the way, given the typing.

That's exactly why I believe Ash chose him to use in the Gym Battle to begin with.

I don't think Ash's other Pokemon would've done very well if they faced off with Skyla's Swoobat. I was hoping Scraggy would've been the one to show off the Dark immunity to Psychics in an episode, but they decided to make it be in this episode and Krokorok to show it.

[Torpoleon]

That's exactly why I believe Ash chose him to use in the Gym Battle to begin with.

I don't think Ash's other Pokemon would've done very well if they faced off with Skyla's Swoobat. I was hoping Scraggy would've been the one to show off the Dark immunity to Psychics in an episode, but they decided to make it be in this episode and Krokorok to show it.

Scraggy would still be a bad choice because he's part Psychic and would probably lose in one hit. Showing off the Psychic Type Immunity with Krokorok is a much better choice and they probably will actually show it in the episode.

Yeah, Krokorok is probably the best choice. Even someone like Pikachu probably wouldn't fare too well. Pikachu might even lose to Unfezant. The only Pokémon of Skyla's I'm 100% certain Pikachu can easily beat with no help is Swanna, which shouldn't be a surprise to anyone.

[spikyearedpichu]

Scraggy would still be a bad choice because he's part Psychic and would probably lose in one hit. Showing off the Psychic Type Immunity with Krokorok is a much better choice and they probably will actually show it in the episode.

Yeah, Krokorok is probably the best choice. Even someone like Pikachu probably wouldn't fare too well. Pikachu might even lose to Unfezant. The only Pokémon of Skyla's I'm 100% certain Pikachu can easily beat with no help is Swanna, which shouldn't be a surprise to anyone.

scraggy is part dark too!!

[Torpoleon]

scraggy is part dark too!!

Yes, but Swoobat could use a Flying Type move and would probably OHKO Scraggy. Well, we already know of the 3 Pokémon to be used in the gym battle, so there's no use talking about how Scraggy would fare. Besides, maybe he'll be used against Brycen.

[Durian Seed]

scraggy is part dark too!!

For what it's worth the darkest move he has is Leer, and that's not even Dark type.

Also, Pika-mouse, Sunglasses and neglected bird are confirmed here.

['Chompah!]

Anyone see a potential Krokorok evolution here?

Jokes aside, has anyone considered the possibility that this match will go this way?:

Tranquill vs Unfezant = Tranquill switched for Pikachu
Pikachu vs Unfezant = Pikachu
Pikachu vs Swoobat = Swoobat
Krokorok vs Swoobat = Krokorok
Krokorok vs Swanna = Swanna
Tranquill vs Swanna = Tranquill evolves and wins

This has a win for each of them (much as I'd love the rat to crash and burn here)

[G50]

Scraggy would still be a bad choice because he's part Psychic and would probably lose in one hit. Showing off the Psychic Type Immunity with Krokorok is a much better choice and they probably will actually show it in the episode.

Yeah, Krokorok is probably the best choice. Even someone like Pikachu probably wouldn't fare too well. Pikachu might even lose to Unfezant. The only Pokémon of Skyla's I'm 100% certain Pikachu can easily beat with no help is Swanna, which shouldn't be a surprise to anyone.

I think you mean he would be knocked out by a Flying-Type attack.

I agree, it makes sense for Pikachu to fall to Unfezant, especially if it ends up a speed vs defense battle.

[GalladeRocks]

I'm still thinking that either everyone will get a win or that Krokorok will be the fall guy with Pikachu and Tranquill getting wins. The two ways I could see it going:

Prediction 1
Tranquill vs. Unfezant (Tranquill is recalled)
Pikachu vs. Unfezant (Pikachu)
Pikachu vs. Swoobat (Swoobat)
Krokorok vs. Swoobat (Krokorok)
Krokorok vs. Swanna (Swanna)
Tranquill vs. Swanna (Tranquill evolves)
Unfezant vs. Swanna (Unfezant)

Prediction 2
Tranquill vs. Unfezant (Tranquill is recalled)
Pikachu vs. Unfezant (Pikachu and recalled)
Krokorok vs. Swoobat (Swoobat)
Pikachu vs. Swoobat (Draw)
Tranquill vs. Swanna (Tranquill evolves)
Unfezant vs. Swanna (Unfezant)

So basically, I think that either they'll all get one win, Tranquill will get two and Pikachu one, or Pikachu two and Tranquill one.

[kicksjedi9]

I'm still thinking that either everyone will get a win or that Krokorok will be the fall guy with Pikachu and Tranquill getting wins. The two ways I could see it going:

Prediction 1
Tranquill vs. Unfezant (Tranquill is recalled)
Pikachu vs. Unfezant (Pikachu)
Pikachu vs. Swoobat (Swoobat)
Krokorok vs. Swoobat (Krokorok)
Krokorok vs. Swanna (Swanna)
Tranquill vs. Swanna (Tranquill evolves)
Unfezant vs. Swanna (Unfezant)

Prediction 2
Tranquill vs. Unfezant (Tranquill is recalled)
Pikachu vs. Unfezant (Pikachu and recalled)
Krokorok vs. Swoobat (Swoobat)
Pikachu vs. Swoobat (Draw)
Tranquill vs. Swanna (Tranquill evolves)
Unfezant vs. Swanna (Unfezant)

So basically, I think that either they'll all get one win, Tranquill will get two and Pikachu one, or Pikachu two and Tranquill one.

I'm really hoping that Krokorok gets one win. If there must be a fall guy, let it be Pikachu. Pikachu will likely shine in the final gym, and he will shine at the League.

[G50]

I'm really hoping that Krokorok gets one win. If there must be a fall guy, let it be Pikachu. Pikachu will likely shine in the final gym, and he will shine at the League.

Nah, let all 3 of them get one win, and not have Pikachu have anymore spotlight the rest of the saga

Tranquil/Unfezant most likely will have the biggest spotlight anyway.

[Joltik-Kid]

If Krokorok truly has Thunder Fang, this makes him unique, seeing as he's Ash's first Pokemon that isn't Pikachu to have an Electric attack