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    If it were dead, it wouldn't even be around anymore. If it were dead to everyone, it wouldn't exist today.

    The Sonic series is the only series I know of that managed to recover after constant disasters in the mid-decade 6 years ago and in the gaming industry, that's saying a lot. If "nostalgia" was the only thing Sonic managed to survive off of, people wouldn't be looking at Sonic Colours so highly compared to previous titles.

    And yes, the franchise is improving, whether one likes it or not. If you're not liking it, then that's fine, but you have to agree that just about anything is better after the trainwreck game in 2006. Sonic Generations, which is an anniversary title, is a whole damn lot better, if not one of the best Sonic games around.

    It's not surviving off nostalgia alone. There was a massive boost in improvement in the main games starting with Unleashed that made it feel like an actual Sonic game, a lot closer to a new formula that people would like. People have noticed, whether they've criticized the added Werehog gameplay or not. It only got higher from there. The handheld titles remained steady which helped Sonic survive over 2006.

    People still enjoy playing Sonic today and it's regaining some of the ground it's lost. Few critics still have Sonic as their targeted *****boy because of his dark days up to the point where many people recognize that they're only beating a dead horse. The Sonic Cycle died years ago. The games still have their own share of faults but so does every other video game ever made.

    Sonic no longer needs nostalgia to survive, so if you don't like how SEGA celebrated the hedgehog's 20 years (and still standing!), then that's fine. You call it a cynical cash grab, I see it as a game with a lot of heart and hard work put into it to appeal to everyone while paying special attention as to what people wanted.

    They aren't increasingly putting him in 2D situations either. There's almost always a new handheld game every year or two, and the main 3D titles tend to take a few years in development, while spin-offs are handled by different teams. Sonic does work in 3D, and Generations gameplay and level design prove it.

    I won't deny the subpar plotting and dialogue in Colours and Generations though, especially the former with the latter: so much wasted potential for a solid plot, yet it was practically bareboned.
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    ^Excellent post bro. Couldn't have said it better myself.

    Quote Originally Posted by TrollsterInc View Post
    Improving? Uhh... not its not. Sonic Generations was the most cynical cash-grab I've seen in a long time. Since nostalgia is the only way Sonic is still alive nowadays, they slapped in Old Sonic with New Sonic, added in a lot of 2D and had the audacity to call it Sonic "reborn" when in reality it was nothing but a huge leap back into the only port they had left in the storm.
    The series hasn't been improving? Yes it has. You can't tell me with a straight face that Shadow and '06 are better games than Colors and Generations. Even if you don't like these new Sonic games, you must admit they're better than those older ones, no?
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    For me, no other game feels as (nostalgically) satisfying as the original Sonic the Hedgehog on the Sega Genesis I've preserved all these years. Granted, I rarely have time to do so nowadays, but when I find myself with a bit of free time on my hands I'm always tempted to pop in the cartridge and spend 15 minutes playing to just reach...

    .. my username. :P

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    Sonic games will forever suck as long as they follow this "modern" gameplay Sega is hell bent on giving us. Auto homing and "tunnels" where you have to press the L/R to navigate through and switching to 3D mid-level are terrible. At best, the current 3D Sonic games are playable, nothing more.


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    I think I remember some Sega executive stating that he wants the Sonic franchise to head in a new direction, so there may be some hope for you just yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sceptile33 View Post
    I think I remember some Sega executive stating that he wants the Sonic franchise to head in a new direction, so there may be some hope for you just yet.
    Was it something like this? http://www.sonicstadium.org/2011/11/...nres-of-games/

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    Quote Originally Posted by sceptile33 View Post
    I think I remember some Sega executive stating that he wants the Sonic franchise to head in a new direction, so there may be some hope for you just yet.
    You mean a new, new direction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mighty Arceus493 View Post
    I meant something more like this: http://www.destructoid.com/sega-want...2-215185.phtml Interesting that the series wants to expand into more genres though.

    Quote Originally Posted by Slick View Post
    You mean a new, new direction.
    How silly of me. Yes, that is what I should have said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sceptile33 View Post
    I meant something more like this: http://www.destructoid.com/sega-want...2-215185.phtml Interesting that the series wants to expand into more genres though.
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    Yeah, because clearly that worked wonders in past Sonic games, like black knight, secret rings, Unleashed and etc. ¬_¬;


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    Quote Originally Posted by blaze boy View Post
    Yeah, because clearly that worked wonders in past Sonic games, like black knight, secret rings, Unleashed and etc. ¬_¬;
    The childhood I ignored for being with Nintendo is slowly dying...

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    Quote Originally Posted by wiiboychris View Post
    The childhood I ignored for being with Nintendo is slowly dying...
    We already how much of a Nintendo fan boy you are, so there is no need to keep harping on about it.

    You also mistook my comment. Sonic isn't dying, not as long the game sells well, I meant by adding gimmick that didn't work in a Sonic franchise the game play and and series as whole took a drop in quality.

    It's only now the quality of the Sonic franchise rose because Sonic Team learnt how not to only keep the gimmick small but at the same time make it work in a Sonic game. The best example would be Sonic Colours.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Clamps View Post
    And here we have GAMEFREAK EMPLOYEE Blaze Boy confirming once again that Red/Blue/Yellow/Green/ and Gold/Silver/Crystal will not be on the 3DS virtual console E-shop!

    You heard it hear first, folks.
    ^ Best post ever.

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    Sega just needs to stop churning out Sonic. That's all. They have so many IP's and yet Sonic is still released year after year.

    Jet Set Radio, I'm looking at you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slick View Post
    Sega just needs to stop churning out Sonic. That's all. They have so many IP's and yet Sonic is still released year after year.

    Jet Set Radio, I'm looking at you.
    Once the HD JSR hits and everyone and their mother buys it maybe they'll learn people like good games and then make a sequel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blaze boy View Post
    We already how much of a Nintendo fan boy you are, so there is no need to keep harping on about it.
    Twilight Link fan boy, you easily misunderstand me. I'm a fan of many series, not just Nintendo. Hell, I admit that I never owned a Sega console, let alone played a single Sonic game before I played SA2.

    So yes, I ignored the Sega childhood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wiiboychris View Post
    Twilight Link fan boy...
    Seriously dude? Just because he's had that avatar for a while doesn't mean he's a TP-Link fanboy at all. I don't know exactly what you two are arguing about, but I can clearly see that you're being arrogant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wiiboychris View Post
    Twilight Link fan boy
    Oh man that's funny. Maybe I should just do this from now on. Any time someone disagrees with you call them a whatevertheiravataris fanboy!
    ...and a toilet seat cover.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Charizard Champion#06 View Post
    Oh man that's funny. Maybe I should just do this from now on. Any time someone disagrees with you call them a whatevertheiravataris fanboy!
    Hey Charizard fanboy, how about you join Handsome Analrapist fanboy master race?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slick View Post
    Seriously dude? Just because he's had that avatar for a while doesn't mean he's a TP-Link fanboy at all. I don't know exactly what you two are arguing about, but I can clearly see that you're being arrogant.
    Yes, I mean it. My username is so misunderstood. I actually go by AuraChannelerChris, but it's impossible for me to change it here except for other sites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slick View Post
    Hey Charizard fanboy, how about you join Handsome Analrapist fanboy master race?
    NO WAY CHARIZARD FANBOYS ARE BEST FANBOYS YOU MAN-LOOKING-IN-SHOCK FANBOY
    Quote Originally Posted by wiiboychris View Post
    Yes, I mean it. My username is so misunderstood. I actually go by AuraChannelerChris, but it's impossible for me to change it here except for other sites.
    Saying you "actually go by" AuraChannelerChris sounds like that's what you make people call you outside the internet.

    Not only that, but saying that people misunderstand you username only strengthens the point that you should make presumptions based on other people's avatars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charizard Champion#06 View Post
    NO WAY CHARIZARD FANBOYS ARE BEST FANBOYS YOU MAN-LOOKING-IN-SHOCK FANBOY
    You, Chariderp fanboy and the shocked guy fanboy are both clearly wrong. Cute girl and Munna avatars are obviously the only way to go.
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