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    Keldeo is rumored to be released soon when the new movie comes out. There is no doubt that Keldeo is a force to be reckoned with in the OU metagame, but will it go as far as Uber? Most may not think so, but then we take a closer look at Keldeo...

    Base Stats:

    HP: 91
    Atk: 72
    Def: 90
    SpA: 129
    SpD: 90
    Spe: 108

    Ability: Justified-Boosts Attack by one stage when hit by a Dark-type move.

    With Justified, Keldeo can switch into almost any Dark-type move. It also fixes Keldeo's weakest stat, which, along with Swords Dance, can make it a threatening sweeper.

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    That's an impressive list. There are many Keldeo sets to be used. Certain examples are listed below:

    Keldeo@Leftovers
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
    Nature: Timid
    -Calm Mind
    -Hydro Pump
    -Hidden power Ghost
    -Secret Sword

    Same as above, except with Calm Mind instead of Hidden Power. HP Ghost hits Jellicent, Lati@s, Starmie, Celebi and Slowbro hard.


    Keldeo@Leftovers/Life Orb
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
    Nature: Adamant / Jolly
    -Swords Dance
    -Close Combat
    -Aqua Tail
    -Stone Edge

    This set aims to SD up until you have enough Attack to OHKO everything, then you OHKO everything.. with your base 72 attack.

    Will Keldeo be Uber? Discuss.

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    Keldeo@Leftovers
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
    Nature: Timid
    -Calm Mind
    -Hydro Pump
    -Hidden Power Ghost
    -Secret Sword

    This is THE set everyone will be running. Its a terrifying set! Keldeo's only problem is fighting / water isn't the greatest coverage even with Hidden Power. Something will wall it and to make it worse its revenged by a decent number of things.

    Easy OU, but we'll have to see how high it gets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Harvest View Post
    Keldeo@Leftovers
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
    Nature: Timid
    -Calm Mind
    -Hydro Pump
    -Hidden Power Ghost
    -Secret Sword

    This is THE set everyone will be running. Its a terrifying set! Keldeo's only problem is fighting / water isn't the greatest coverage even with Hidden Power. Something will wall it and to make it worse its revenged by a decent number of things.

    Easy OU, but we'll have to see how high it gets.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jle1076 View Post
    That^

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    Oh, I thought you were talking about Smogon Freak.

    Meh, it's good coverage, but it's not exactly BoltBeam. We've got a lot of Dragons with fighting resist running around, along with Jellicent, Tentacruel, and the occasional Toxicroak. I see all of these except Toxicroak a lot. If I go into the battles and none of my opponents uses anything of these pokemon, I'd be pretty surprised.
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    I can't think of a single instance where I would run Focus Blast over Secret Sword.

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    Keldeo is the specially based terrakion. GG

    except he actually benefits from rain while terrak doesn't benefit from sand

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jets View Post
    except he actually benefits from rain while terrak doesn't benefit from sand
    Pretty sure laughing at Gengar Focus Blasts counts as benefiting from Sand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jets View Post
    Keldeo is the specially based terrakion. GG

    except he actually benefits from rain while terrak doesn't benefit from sand
    It doesn't have near perfect coverage with two stab moves and two +2 boosting moves.

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    There's no way Keldeo will make Ubers. Despite the fact that it has a huge physical movepool, its attack is very lacking and is in almost every way outclassed by Terrakion in that department.

    No, Keldeo will usually be running the set that Blue Harvest posted above. Not that physical attack isn't viable, but it could be better.

    I personally think Keldeo will be UU or BL at lowest and OU at best.
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    Quote Originally Posted by overlordmewtwo View Post
    There's no way Keldeo will make Ubers. Despite the fact that it has a huge physical movepool, its attack is very lacking and is in almost every way outclassed by Terrakion in that department.
    Think about this: Keldeo/d'Artagnan has Secret Sword. She can hit from both sides of the attacking spectrum, something that Terrakion/Porthos can't even dream of doing. If a Prankster Sableye walked in with Will-O-Wisp, it will turn Terrakion's offenses into worse-than-crud IN A SECOND. Keldeo, on the other hand, could care less about being burned. Her actual Physical Attack is worse than Serperior's, which is really saying something. Secret Sword, however, can still hit on the physical Defence from Keldeo's excellent Special Attack, if need be.
    Who do you think has the advantage: Terrakion, or Keldeo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Zoroark View Post
    Think about this: Keldeo/d'Artagnan has Secret Sword. She can hit from both sides of the attacking spectrum, something that Terrakion/Porthos can't even dream of doing. If a Prankster Sableye walked in with Will-O-Wisp, it will turn Terrakion's offenses into worse-than-crud IN A SECOND. Keldeo, on the other hand, could care less about being burned. Her actual Physical Attack is worse than Serperior's, which is really saying something. Secret Sword, however, can still hit on the physical Defence from Keldeo's excellent Special Attack, if need be.
    Who do you think has the advantage: Terrakion, or Keldeo?
    Why would Terrakion even need to hit on the special side?

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    Keldeo is a better virizion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jets View Post
    Keldeo is a better virizion.
    Not as good on more defensive teams where Virizion really shines due to it's ability to be a good anti rain team pokemon well except for Tornadus and Dnite. Keldeo is better for offensive teams

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    Quote Originally Posted by assassinsceptile View Post
    Not as good on more defensive teams where Virizion really shines due to it's ability to be a good anti rain team pokemon well except for Tornadus and Dnite. Keldeo is better for offensive teams
    I was too lazy to edit my post to add this

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jets View Post
    Keldeo is a better virizion.
    I'm not so sure about that considering Virizion can work in both Sun and Rain. Virizion is a great mixed Sweeper and Keldeo is not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RDSchley View Post
    I'm not so sure about that considering Virizion can work in both Sun and Rain. Virizion is a great mixed Sweeper and Keldeo is not.
    Agreed. And Virizion has a higher attack stat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ❤Lady Baltny❤ View Post
    Agreed. And Virizion has a higher attack stat.
    I'm not so sure about that considering Virizion can work in both Sun and Rain. Virizion is a great mixed Sweeper and Keldeo is not.
    Well, Keldeo is more offensively powerful. Imagine a +1 Hydro Pump from a special attack stat of roughly 130 in the rain. Rain makes even Politoed into an offensive threat, just think about what it will do to Kedleo. And it doesn't help that most weather teams are sand or rain in the first place.

    I don't think these too pokemon are all that alike, so Kedleo's presence won't remove Virizion or make it outclassed, but it is more powerful.
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    ^ That's another way to look at it, but it doesn't get the dual screens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by overlordmewtwo View Post
    ^ That's another way to look at it, but it doesn't get the dual screens.
    Keldeo is a mother ****ing water horse. BH loves horses. BH will sweep with a team of 6 keldeos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jets View Post
    Keldeo is a mother ****ing water horse. BH loves horses. BH will sweep with a team of 6 keldeos.
    I don't like horses, I just think horse dick jokes are funny. Also its a pony.

    Also a Swords Dance set it worthless.. it has worse physical offenses than Blissey does special.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Harvest View Post
    I don't like horses, I just think horse dick jokes are funny. Also its a pony.

    Also a Swords Dance set it worthless.. it has worse physical offenses than Blissey does special.
    Lulz, this, if you need to hit something on the physical side just use secret sword

    so metal

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Harvest View Post
    I just think horse dick jokes are funny.
    ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Harvest View Post
    I don't like horses, I just think horse dick jokes are funny. Also its a pony.
    Even more reason for everyone to use it. Now what cute nickname containing 2 words should we give it?

    On topic, it's a great special sweeper but nothing too unique bar hard hitting moves. Its Water typing and the ever so common rain will make that STAB Hydro Pump (coming off 129 Special Attack) hurt a lot. 108 Speed helps it in the meta-game. As for me, I doubt I'll use it unless I get my hands on a Drizzle Politoed as bar that, I find Keldo doesn't have enough to differentiate itself from other sweepers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ParaChomp View Post
    Even more reason for everyone to use it. Now what cute nickname containing 2 words should we give it?

    On topic, it's a great special sweeper but nothing too unique bar hard hitting moves. Its Water typing and the ever so common rain will make that STAB Hydro Pump (coming off 129 Special Attack) hurt a lot. 108 Speed helps it in the meta-game. As for me, I doubt I'll use it unless I get my hands on a Drizzle Politoed as bar that, I find Keldo doesn't have enough to differentiate itself from other sweepers.
    STAB Fighting type Psyshock and the ability to break everything that can come close to countering it puts it in the same tier of sweepers as Terrakion and Dragonite.

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    I'm just going to edit the OP myself...

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