Legendary Pokemon Discussion Thread [Read First Post]

[jeffdavid102]

Who noticed the moves ice burn and freeze shock. they both have the same stats and everything.both are ice type moves. the only difference is one paralyzes and one burns. Signature moves? think so also because they have a good power of about 130 i think it was

[R_N]

Who noticed the moves ice burn and freeze shock. they both have the same stats and everything.both are ice type moves. the only difference is one paralyzes and one burns. Signature moves? think so also because they have a good power of about 130 i think it was

We've noticed them since BW came out.
They're 140 power and are Ice typed Sky Attack clones

[Locormus]

We've noticed them since BW came out.
They're 140 power and are Ice typed Sky Attack clones

They need a turn to charge? Really? Didn't know that.. :S

[Autis-misc]

We've noticed them since BW came out.
They're 140 power and are Ice typed Sky Attack clones

But one freezes and one Burns. If we can get a Poison Ice move, then we would be set.

[Astrixx]

I dislike the new forms of kyurem but then again im kind of curious to find out what they do and what role they play, also i have a feeling theyre not going to be the only new legendaries

[Endolise]

I dislike the new forms of kyurem but then again im kind of curious to find out what they do and what role they play, also i have a feeling theyre not going to be the only new legendaries

Kyur@m will most likely be the only case of a "new" legendary; I highly doubt they'll include Keldeo/Meloetta/Genesect in-game and there wasn't any forme coding in Black and White to support new formes for any other legendaries...unless you mean legendaries from previous gens, which is possible.

[GenosectArceus]

I dislike the new forms of kyurem but then again im kind of curious to find out what they do and what role they play, also i have a feeling theyre not going to be the only new legendaries

If Kyurem wasn't the only new Legendary then Keldeo would probably get a new form like Shaymin in Platinum, but the movie cover for Kyurem VS. The Sacred Swordsman suggests that Keldeo won't have a new forme.

[Excitable Boy]

If Kyurem wasn't the only new Legendary then Keldeo would probably get a new form like Shaymin in Platinum, but the movie cover for Kyurem VS. The Sacred Swordsman suggests that Keldeo won't have a new forme.

...Would we have really needed ALL of the event legends to have alternate forms?

[coolminun]

Truth be told, I think kyurem may be a virus like deoxys. It does say that it came from outer space, so maybe it just globs itself in a liquid form to zek/resh and freezes them over taking control. As far as the story goes, I think it'll be like this. You start off in the same way as BW, beat N with your dragon and game is over. After you defeat the elite 4 and adler, you meet with Looker to find the sages. After the final one is found, a broadcast comes up on the tv about strange occurences in lacunosa town, such as the entire town being frozen over. You invest the occurence and adler and cheren come too. You travel to the giant chasm and find an injured Looker. He tells you Ghetsis has returned and wields a powerful pokemon. You run down to engage ghetsis and then, N arrives. You defeat Ghetsis once more and after the battle, Kyurem globs itself onto N's zek/resh and becomes Black/white kyurem.

[Icy Meteor]

...Would we have really needed ALL of the event legends to have alternate forms?

I don't want anymore alternate forms for Pokémon this gen, if they made more I'd hate Gamefreak a lot. But I'd forgive them if they made Strawberry and Chocolate Vannillite evolution line forms. :3

[GenosectArceus]

...Would we have really needed ALL of the event legends to have alternate forms?

Well, I'm not suggesting ALL of them. I was suggesting Keldeo wouldn't have an alternate forme based on what we've seen from the Movie Cover and trailer.

[JBiGGiE]

I think (assuming we are getting a true sequel) that since canonically N and our Protagonist both have one of the Yin-Yang Twins :P Ghetsis will be the one in control of Kyurem and I'm certain if that being the case probably by force. Or it could be that we find a sort of connection between Ghetsis' cold heart and Kyurem's ice typing (stemming from the theory about Kyurem being left energy-less from the split). And expounding on a previously mentioned theory that Kyurem gains its forms by absorbing the energy of the respective Yin-Yang dragons... I have a feeling that the interrelationship of the Tao trio will require you to in some way sacrifice one of the Yin-Yang dragons. I think two possibilities: 1) with Kyurem and Resh/Zek in your party you trade off Kyurem's B/W form for a permanently fainted Resh/Zek as long as the form is active. Or 2) With both in your party you take them to a location where you trade off Kyurem's form for a statistically weakened Resh/Zek.

[Wasarym]

Truth be told, I think kyurem may be a virus like deoxys. It does say that it came from outer space, so maybe it just globs itself in a liquid form to zek/resh and freezes them over taking control. As far as the story goes, I think it'll be like this. You start off in the same way as BW, beat N with your dragon and game is over. After you defeat the elite 4 and adler, you meet with Looker to find the sages. After the final one is found, a broadcast comes up on the tv about strange occurences in lacunosa town, such as the entire town being frozen over. You invest the occurence and adler and cheren come too. You travel to the giant chasm and find an injured Looker. He tells you Ghetsis has returned and wields a powerful pokemon. You run down to engage ghetsis and then, N arrives. You defeat Ghetsis once more and after the battle, Kyurem globs itself onto N's zek/resh and becomes Black/white kyurem.

Heres the latest trailer for the 15'th movie (which is also the latest news I've seen even close to BW2 info). If you watch the top trailer, you'll see this image.

This makes it look like Kyurem does not fuse, but he does seem to be absorbing power. Whats being said during this part of the commercial translates to "Possessing the strength of both Reshiram and Zekrom, the strongest dragon Pokemon on earth, name's Kyurem!" (as apparently translated by fellow forum user Hidden Power). This may not mean anything,but it sounds to me like Kyurem might be an extraterrestrial pokemon that was seeking power, and was attracted to the energy of the Tao duo (or maybe the whole, original dragon), being empty, nothing, absolute zero, etc. Of course, according to the pokedex, his body creates some kind of freezing energy, so he will never be thawed (which might be uncomfortable for a dragon type). But that might have more to do with his nature than his ambitions.

He engaged in battle with the other dragon(s), absorbing more and more as the battle went on (which might be why he's gray(kinda dumb, I know). Inevitably though, he loses, as he's just not as strong. Here's what it says in the 4'th floor of the abyssal ruins.

King defeated ③ alone.
④ joined King in a day.
King called ⑤ beings.
King is hope and future.
The great King ⑥.

Perhaps kyurem is what was defeated.

Anyways, being broken, he can't get very far from his crater (which he might need to stay in due to remnants of his meteor), and has to eat other pokemon for enough energy to sustain himself when he leaves. The farthest he usually gets is Lacunosa town, though(being attracted to the energy and warmth of the clustered group), where he terrifies the villagers and eventually gets driven back.
What seems like it might be somewhat related to this is this excerpt from the 2nd floor.

Life is gratitude.
Eating is receiving life.
Good or evil isn't all.
Do not be barbaric.
One must not waste.
All is precious.
Wars create tears.
Shine if agreed.

This would seem to contradict the earlier claim I made using Abyssal ruins text, as it seems to be somewhat justifying Kyurem's eating habits (or not, but perhaps Kyurem isn't wasteful).

Anyways, Kyurem would have rather gotten both the dragons, but seeing as one of them is possibly no longer on the continent, he can only get the energies of one. This would cause him to want to leave the region and find the other dragon. Outside or inside of a pokeball, Kyurem would find the other dragon, because your player will probably find N in BW2 anyway.

And lastly, a disclaimer. I don't mean to present anything I wasn't quoting, referencing, sharing as fact. It's just an alternate theory I've been pushing that utilizes what is really known, along with the nature of cold and vacuums (nature abhors one). Not that I have anything against the shell theory, as that's cool too. As for whether this has any merit, we'll just wait and see.
EDIT: Sorry about double post, copy should be deleted.

[ur2ez4me2bro]

Are those legendaries Kyreum's new forms or Reshiram/Zekrom's new forms? OR are they fusions?

[Shneak]

Are those legendaries Kyreum's new forms or Reshiram/Zekrom's new forms? OR are they fusions?

New formes.

[Pokemon Power]

I think they should have Lugia roaming around Unova post-game in Black 2, and Ho-oh in White 2. Plus, the lake trio hiding around.

[R_N]

I think they should have Lugia roaming around Unova post-game in Black 2, and Ho-oh in White 2. Plus, the lake trio hiding around.

I don't see either of the birds just roaming around.
Pixies are slightly more possible, but I'm not sure they'd leave sinnoh; they have actual reason to be there unlike the bird trio or the lati@s. Well, unless Dialga & Palkia are in, too.

I could probably see Cresselia wandering around if they add a Darkrai event, maybe?

[GenosectArceus]

Maybe just Tornadus and Thundurus of the Cloud Trio roaming around and not Version Exclusives anymore, then we can battle Landorus. Or we experience the fight amongst the trio like in the anime, but instead of Team Rocket, it's Team Plasma.
Or better, Team Plasma captures the Cloud Trio and uses them to create the updraft that causes Kyurem and Reshiram/Zekrom to be pulled up into the air, where Kyurem absorbs their energy and power and morphs into Black Kyurem/White Kyurem.

But that's just me.

[Skyhi101]

If Pokemon fusions are introduced like some people are speculating things could get really interesting especially with the legendaries

[DBK]

If Pokemon fusions are introduced like some people are speculating things could get really interesting especially with the legendaries

There aren't going to be fusions.

Move along, people, nothing to see here.