Storyline and Characters Discussion Thread [Read First Post]

[halodeoxys]

Fixed to conform to the timeline. Apparently, he and May were having an affair behind Brendan's back. Which is why there's no N in the Anime: Drew's enough for a girl to handle.

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Also regarding your "BW XD Fusion" theory, thats not gonna happen. The game will be set in Unova. Im almost positive. It was a good idea having N help you purify shadow pokemon though.

This doesn't mean anything. The fact that every gen has Kanto in it is pure coincidence.

Nintendo didn't HAVE to make remakes in the 3rd Gen.

[GirlsILikeThem]

To the people that want to play as N. Characters are always silent, so if we played as N we would either lose a lot of character depth OR we would have a character that always has monologues and dialogues with NPC's and a lot of people like RPG characters who don't speak

Well, of course! Does someone force you to say things you wouldn't say in real life? I don't mean answering teacher's questions...and I don't mean having to lie to appease what someone else wants to hear. I mean does someone else make you say certain things, word for word, that you have no control over? No? Then why would they do that with a character you play in-game? The idea is that you ARE that person, and as that person only you can control what you say. Not the script that is programmed into the game. You.

At least Unova will finally have a Battle Frontier. It probably won't be as fabulous as Emerald's since this game has only been in development for two years at the most. But it will still rock, I'm sure. There will likely be something to do with Rotation Battles or Triple Battles in the Frontier. (I put this in Storyline discussion because you gain no EXP or EV's from battling in the Frontier. It's there for fun.)

[crystalzapdos]

Hoenn could happen, but maybe only a part of Hoenn and not the whole region.

No. It won't happen. Period. The keyword here is money. The only way we would get part of Hoenn is the Hoenn Battle Frontier, if you even consider that Hoenn.

[pela]

There's no way Hoenn could happen. I don't think there's any realistic way the story grants it. Or am I missing something here?

[cantab]

On another note, the construction on route 4 are most likely to be completed... but I wonder to what.

A road :P

Which does actually bring me to one interesting idea. In BW we see the highway in a number of places, most notably SkyArrow Bridge. What if BW2 put in a bus service. They could use that to mix up the order you get to the cities in. Let's say after Nacrene you hear that Castelia and Nimbasa are closed off for some reason, so you take the bus all the way through to Driftveil. Game Freak could use it for some more show-off visuals too.

Of course, they might actually use the Subway for transport. Maybe we'll find out WHY only one line was used for that in the originals?

[GirlsILikeThem]

Hoenn could happen, but maybe only a part of Hoenn and not the whole region.

Hoenn is the smallest region so far from what I could tell just by playing it. So we'd have to have the police blocking the route leading away from Slateport, or maybe Team Aqua has succeeded and sunk the entire land into the ocean, and now you can only go to Mossdeep City or Dive to get to Sootopolis City.

[GroudonX]

Hoenn is the smallest region so far from what I could tell just by playing it. So we'd have to have the police blocking the route leading away from Slateport, or maybe Team Aqua has succeeded and sunk the entire land into the ocean, and now you can only go to Mossdeep City or Dive to get to Sootopolis City.

But remember Team Aqua/Magma never succeeded doing anything like that. But I do agree with the idea about the police blocking certain paths. Also I thought Hoenn was the biggest region?

[halodeoxys]

Too many holes, how did they find N, how did they steal such a strong pokemon. I think it will be based on the dragons but maybe genesect could be included post E4

Yeah, Genesect could have some extension in BW2 like Keldeo in BW and Celebi in HGSS. It could even reveal what happened to N after the story ends.

Hoenn could happen, but maybe only a part of Hoenn and not the whole region.

Save Hoenn for the remake.

[crystalzapdos]

Hoenn is the smallest region so far from what I could tell just by playing it. .

I think you might have been playing a different game. Acording to Bulbapedia, Hoenn is the biggest region with 34 routes and 16 towns and cities. It simply wont happen.

[AcethePuma]

Hell yeab! Just thought I'll check for news about new games but that blew my mind! Although i (just my opinion) don't really like the legendary fusions, i still like the possibilities that come with them. Maybe n fuses his legendary (somehow) and isn't able to handle it any longer or whatelse....

My biggest hopw is a jotho kanto like connection! Starting in the deep north, making a fresh start with all new pokemon, and after completing the 8 badges and fighting the league once you have to find out about the cir umstamces in the southern fields. Maybe a continuing story o
Just my hopes though

[Dr. Leggs]

I think you might have been playing a different game. Acording to Bulbapedia, Hoenn is the biggest region with 34 routes and 16 towns and cities. It simply wont happen.

Let's not speak in absolutes, because you don't know and neither do I or anyone else not developing the game.

If Looker's comment at the end of BW1 is meant to be a hint of where we'll go in BW2, then it seems likely another region will be visited and that makes Hoenn a possibility.

"Having received such a report, of someone far from here, who has seen a person like N and...a dragon Pokémon. I am on my way to verify the veracity of this information. We will meet again one day!"

It's possible.

[pela]

Guys Hoenn is the biggest region and Unova is decently sized too. Johto and Kanto are small and that's why they could fit in a game.
I would rather have two complete games than having a Hoenn which feels incomplete with blocked paths or a giant ocea, this sin't wind waker

[pela]

Let's not speak in absolutes, because you don't know and neither do I or anyone else not developing the game.

If Looker's comment at the end of BW1 is meant to be a hint of where we'll go in BW2, then it seems likely another region will be visited and that makes Hoenn a possibility.

"Having received such a report, of someone far from here, who has seen a person like N and...a dragon Pokémon. I am on my way to verify the veracity of this information. We will meet again one day!"

It's possible.

Okay and why does it have to be Hoenn people keep insisting on this with nothing to back it up. It might be one of the other four regions, or maybe another region we don't know about yet. And Hoenn is the biggest region, look at the poke earth page plus he fact that it has the most cities and routes in any pokemon game

[halodeoxys]

Hoenn is the smallest region so far from what I could tell just by playing it.

You never used Surf and Dive.
Either that or you haven't played the game in quite a long time. Kanto alone I believe was the smallest(not counting the Sevii Islands).

Okay and why does it have to be Hoenn people keep insisting on this with nothing to back it up. It might be one of the other four regions, or maybe another region we don't know about yet. And Hoenn is the biggest region, look at the poke earth page plus he fact that it has the most cities and routes in any pokemon game

People keep mentioning Hoenn because 1) its the next region speculated to be remade, and 2)The R/S tenth anniversary is coming up.

[crystalzapdos]

Let's not speak in absolutes, because you don't know and neither do I or anyone else not developing the game.

If Looker's comment at the end of BW1 is meant to be a hint of where we'll go in BW2, then it seems likely another region will be visited and that makes Hoenn a possibility.

"Having received such a report, of someone far from here, who has seen a person like N and...a dragon Pokémon. I am on my way to verify the veracity of this information. We will meet again one day!"

It's possible.

That doesn't mean Hoenn though. You could say that about any region and the argument is equally valid. Its Pokemon Black and White 2, which is why it will most like take place in Unova, like the originals. I could see a Sevii islands like regions, but not an older region.

[GirlsILikeThem]

Okay and why does it have to be Hoenn people keep insisting on this with nothing to back it up. It might be one of the other four regions, or maybe another region we don't know about yet. And Hoenn is the biggest region, look at the poke earth page plus he fact that it has the most cities and routes in any pokemon game

There are only three regions besides Unova and Hoenn unless Black and White 2 introduces a new region itself, which is doubtful. Though it would be cool with Kanto or Johto in the foreground again, maybe a reestablishment of Team Rocket. Maybe we finally get some evil team v. evil team that people have been screaming for for eons.

[BIGJRA]

In this spoiler tag is a really long speculation on the entire game. This took me about 60 minutes to write. PLEASE comment and VM this theory. And it's not a too long post because of the spoiler tags

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My speculation is that you start in Undella Town. The ruins need dive, which you don't have. You are a currently unknown 17 yr old. You go to Black City/White Forest, Fighting off steel or grass gym leader, respectivly with a Ferroseed and Klink/Petilil. The road to Nimbasa is blocked by big boulders. You go back to Undella and the construction project gym is complete. The Riches child is gym leader, and he has water types, with pansage and frillish. You then go to Lacunosa, and fight off DARKtype gym leader with Pawniard, Purrloin and Liepard. Kyurem is holding N, who is begging for help, telling you that Kyurem captured him in Hoenn, blending with his dragon. He needs your help, and recommends you ask Hilbert for help, on Dragon Spiral Tower. You arrive in Opelucid, and have to fight off cyrogonal men. Kyurem had possessed cyrogonal, who took over men. You fight off the average woobat, patrat, etc. Drayden has just died, and Iris is at the funeral. she asks a young boy to watch over the gym. You challenge Dragon type, with Deino, and Fraxure. (and maybe druddigon) You go to the pokemon league and they won't let you in, for only having 4 badges. You go to Icirrus, and kill Brycen's Beartic and Vannilish. You climb DST, and more cryogonal men try to stop you. You reach the top, and find Hilbert from the previous game, about age 26 ish, and his dragon. You tell him the story of Kyurem, and he wants to help. He says he will meet you after the pokemon league, and he flies away. You travel to Mistralton, and the Chargestone Cave has collapsed! Beat Skyla Jr., the child of Hilbert and Skyla, who uses a similar team to that of Skyla in the last game, as they are both 6th gym leaders. Skyla hears Hilbert is helping with Kyurem, and helps you by allowing you to take her airplane to the Double Isle. On isle 1, you face a poison leader, sporting Garbodor, Scolipede, and Amoonguss. You go to isle 2, and fight a Rock leader, with Gigalith, Crustle, Archeops, and Carracosta. You now have league badges, and you go to the pokemon league, and clear victory road. You beat the league, same as last time, and beat Hilbert for the title. Then he says he knows where Kyurem is and tells you you will need HM Strength. It is at the P2 labratory (I always wanted more out of that) and you remember that Nimbasa is blocked by boulders. You shove them out of the way, and find that Cobalion, Virizion, and Terrakion were causing the trouble. They all retreat to the place where Cobalion was in Black And White 1. You go on to Nimbasa, and the gym and amusement park was converted into a battle frontier. The sports arenas and musical hall still operate, and you can go and do same as last game, if you please. In the sports, you can go in the stands and watch for 1000 poke. You then go on to Driftveil and Clay has converted the gym into a police station. You tell of Kyurem, and they agree to help as much as they can. Ice Storage has been closed due to a fire. You see collapsed chargestone cave, and a Galvantula is giving rides across the ruins, giving you access to Mistralton. You catch the 3 musketeers if you please, and retreat to nimbasa, and go to resort desort. The ancient tower has collapsed, and you meet old Cheren, who tells you it's story. You reach Castelia City, which is now techno city, with ele-bulletins, and more. The gym is now a bug emporium, and all the docks are getting renovated, being unaccessible. Skyarrow bridge crosses over into Pinwheel Forest, where weird weather is occuring. You find the weather genies on opposite sides of the forest. One at Dragon Skull area, one at Virizion area. You catch them and get a call from gym leader one, that a sandstorm is ripping up the town. You can go to Abundant shrine with the two genies and get Landorus. You can go on to Nacrene, and get word of fossil pokemon tearing up the gym and museum. You can get Archen and Tirtouga here. You can go on to Striaton, and Cryogonal men are there. You encounter many Cryogonal men from now until P2 lab. Cilan, Cress, and Chili are nowhere to be seen and the gym is locked. You go to Accumula, nothing much but a new jail, where Ghetsis is being held. You tell him about N, and he feels sympathy for once, and tells you to try as hard as you can to save him. He gives you a master ball. You go to Nuvema, and see Bianca and Juniper telling you about the odd fireice or thunderice that keeps falling in the town. You go back to route 1, and on to r17-18. The water is completely frozen, and you slide on it, like r8 in the last game. You eventually find the sages cowering in the cornere of the route, running from 3 Cryogonal Men, which are possessed forms of Chili, Cress, and Cilan. You defeat them and their final starters, and monkeys, and the sages give you the dark/light stone, to give you a chance against BlackKyurem/WhiteKyurem. You, and Hilbert go to P2 and see N and Kyur(a/o)m. N has become a cryogonal person and, he and Crogonal man Alder (who is also there) challenge you and hilbert to a double battle. You do it, win, and Kyurem challenges you to a battle. You catch it, and it is holding a "Grey Stone" Taking it off, you get a Kyurem and a Zek/Resh. Each holding a "Stone Part. If you have the two in your team, you can select MERGE, to combine into boss form again. Nuff Said.
 

[BIGJRA]

I already posted this in another thread, but it belongs here too. Here is my long speculation about everything, plot and characters. PLease VM any questions/comments/criticisms.    Spoiler:- The Speculation:

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My speculation is that you start in Undella Town. The ruins need dive, which you don't have. You are a currently unknown 17 yr old. You go to Black City/White Forest, Fighting off steel or grass gym leader, respectivly with a Ferroseed and Klink/Petilil. The road to Nimbasa is blocked by big boulders. You go back to Undella and the construction project gym is complete. The Riches child is gym leader, and he has water types, with pansage and frillish. You then go to Lacunosa, and fight off DARKtype gym leader with Pawniard, Purrloin and Liepard. Kyurem is holding N, who is begging for help, telling you that Kyurem captured him in Hoenn, blending with his dragon. He needs your help, and recommends you ask Hilbert for help, on Dragon Spiral Tower. You arrive in Opelucid, and have to fight off cyrogonal men. Kyurem had possessed cyrogonal, who took over men. You fight off the average woobat, patrat, etc. Drayden has just died, and Iris is at the funeral. she asks a young boy to watch over the gym. You challenge Dragon type, with Deino, and Fraxure. (and maybe druddigon) You go to the pokemon league and they won't let you in, for only having 4 badges. You go to Icirrus, and kill Brycen's Beartic and Vannilish. You climb DST, and more cryogonal men try to stop you. You reach the top, and find Hilbert from the previous game, about age 26 ish, and his dragon. You tell him the story of Kyurem, and he wants to help. He says he will meet you after the pokemon league, and he flies away. You travel to Mistralton, and the Chargestone Cave has collapsed! Beat Skyla Jr., the child of Hilbert and Skyla, who uses a similar team to that of Skyla in the last game, as they are both 6th gym leaders. Skyla hears Hilbert is helping with Kyurem, and helps you by allowing you to take her airplane to the Double Isle. On isle 1, you face a poison leader, sporting Garbodor, Scolipede, and Amoonguss. You go to isle 2, and fight a Rock leader, with Gigalith, Crustle, Archeops, and Carracosta. You now have league badges, and you go to the pokemon league, and clear victory road. You beat the league, same as last time, and beat Hilbert for the title. Then he says he knows where Kyurem is and tells you you will need HM Strength. It is at the P2 labratory (I always wanted more out of that) and you remember that Nimbasa is blocked by boulders. You shove them out of the way, and find that Cobalion, Virizion, and Terrakion were causing the trouble. They all retreat to the place where Cobalion was in Black And White 1. You go on to Nimbasa, and the gym and amusement park was converted into a battle frontier. The sports arenas and musical hall still operate, and you can go and do same as last game, if you please. In the sports, you can go in the stands and watch for 1000 poke. You then go on to Driftveil and Clay has converted the gym into a police station. You tell of Kyurem, and they agree to help as much as they can. Ice Storage has been closed due to a fire. You see collapsed chargestone cave, and a Galvantula is giving rides across the ruins, giving you access to Mistralton. You catch the 3 musketeers if you please, and retreat to nimbasa, and go to resort desort. The ancient tower has collapsed, and you meet old Cheren, who tells you it's story. You reach Castelia City, which is now techno city, with ele-bulletins, and more. The gym is now a bug emporium, and all the docks are getting renovated, being unaccessible. Skyarrow bridge crosses over into Pinwheel Forest, where weird weather is occuring. You find the weather genies on opposite sides of the forest. One at Dragon Skull area, one at Virizion area. You catch them and get a call from gym leader one, that a sandstorm is ripping up the town. You can go to Abundant shrine with the two genies and get Landorus. You can go on to Nacrene, and get word of fossil pokemon tearing up the gym and museum. You can get Archen and Tirtouga here. You can go on to Striaton, and Cryogonal men are there. You encounter many Cryogonal men from now until P2 lab. Cilan, Cress, and Chili are nowhere to be seen and the gym is locked. You go to Accumula, nothing much but a new jail, where Ghetsis is being held. You tell him about N, and he feels sympathy for once, and tells you to try as hard as you can to save him. He gives you a master ball. You go to Nuvema, and see Bianca and Juniper telling you about the odd fireice or thunderice that keeps falling in the town. You go back to route 1, and on to r17-18. The water is completely frozen, and you slide on it, like r8 in the last game. You eventually find the sages cowering in the cornere of the route, running from 3 Cryogonal Men, which are possessed forms of Chili, Cress, and Cilan. You defeat them and their final starters, and monkeys, and the sages give you the dark/light stone, to give you a chance against BlackKyurem/WhiteKyurem. You, and Hilbert go to P2 and see N and Kyur(a/o)m. N has become a cryogonal person and, he and Crogonal man Alder (who is also there) challenge you and hilbert to a double battle. You do it, win, and Kyurem challenges you to a battle. You catch it, and it is holding a "Grey Stone" Taking it off, you get a Kyurem and a Zek/Resh. Each holding a "Stone Part. If you have the two in your team, you can select MERGE, to combine into boss form again. Nuff Said.
 

[crystalzapdos]

You never used Surf and Dive.
Either that or you haven't played the game in quite a long time. Kanto alone I believe was the smallest(not counting the Sevii Islands).

People keep mentioning Hoenn because 1) its the next region speculated to be remade, and 2)The R/S tenth anniversary is coming up.

That evidence points towards a R/S remake, not Hoenn being in Black and White 2.

There are only three regions besides Unova and Hoenn unless Black and White 2 introduces a new region itself, which is doubtful. Though it would be cool with Kanto or Johto in the foreground again, maybe a reestablishment of Team Rocket. Maybe we finally get some evil team v. evil team that people have been screaming for for eons.

Team Rocket? I think there's a better chance of Hoenn being in the game then Team Rocket. Also, while I agree that Black and White 2 won't introduce a new region that also doesn't mean Hoenn or any other older region will be in it. I think its mini region or just Unova.

[kemal07]

I'd rather have a remake like HGSS, for RS, I wouldn't like it if Hoenn was only partly put into the BW Sequel because that would drastically minimize the chance of a RS Remake...

It's really confusing because there is actually a chance of revisiting a region, In all honesty, since we have Looker and Cynthia, I wouldn't be surprised if we were to revisit Sinnoh, to break the whole 'remake' pattern only leaving the final region 'Hoenn' to be remade, especially since Sinnoh isn't that old yet...