Last edited by TWN; 11th April 2012 at 6:27 PM.
Gyms are not going away, not in a main series game. That's like the main focus of the games. You might as well say they'll take out evolution.
Formerly known as Jigglychu.
Its a sequel in the same generation.
There wont be new pokemon.
Meaning same starters and same legends encountered.
Which then means that there will be no new hero while at the same time the events of BW cannot have passed already at the start of BW2.
As the starters and legends would have been caught or defeated by the BW hero already.
Which leads to the only logical and really simple conclusion:
BW2 will be retelling BW.
You will start in the same town, pick from the same starters from the same prof, and go north etc.
Essentially up to E4 (with the main plot parts changed of course),
but instead of the sudden ending, the story will continue (hence sequel/"2") and finish this time, as you travel the east side of Unova, with ACTUAL business instead of just hide&seek with the seemingly unimportant plasma sages.
Even makes sense about why east Unova felt like a boring postgame sidetrack without much of a purpose.
(note how Kyurem was found there too anyway.)
And obviously there will be the usual additions and improvements of details, upgraded subway, move tutors, etc etc.
So dont get way too excited about it.
Its still gonna be much better than a plain third version as the full story was planned for it in advance and will definitely be much more than just a few scenes changed.
But consider that they're likely working on the next games as we speak if thats not good enough.
Expect a normal third version and you'll love it.
Personally I cant wait to see what they came up with, as BW (even though it had the most developed and deep story of any pkmn game) felt like ~75% done. With BW2 announced I realised why.
I just wanna say that I hope those two fellas on the front aren't the new player characters. They look like they've come out of Orre, kupo!
"History is a nightmare from which I am trying to awake."
You really think that? The clothes are too futuristic to be hundreds of years old, and its a 'sequel', yet again, not a prequel. Also, it wouldnt make sense to have B and W Kyurem hundreds of years in the past and not in BW, or the present.
And plot-wise, only Reshiram/Zekrom was defeated. I don't understand why you think BW2 can't take place after BW. If that was the case, they wouldn't be calling it Black/White 2.
BW2 is a sequel, so it starts sometime after BW ended; Ghetsis is escaped somewhere, N has a dragon, and Hilbert/Hilda has the other one. (which actually proves that there has to be new player characters; if Hilbert and Hilda were playable again, you'd start the game with a Legendary.) Now the new player character starts his/her journey and gets a Snivy, Tepig, or Oshawott.
Formerly known as Jigglychu.
mmm... guess you are right, i got my thoughts a little mixed up with the creation story of zekrom and reshiram sorry... but now i am slightly wondering how kyurem a pokemon who was said to come from a meteor got so mixed up with zekrom/reshiram... maby it is deoxys (now i am just talking nonsens so i will stop)
Last edited by Aurath8; 11th April 2012 at 8:31 PM.
Hopefully all this debate would be solved tomorrow if we get more leaks and some information...
With the dragons already caught you wouldnt have access to those yourself this time, making it the first final game of a generation with less main legendaries available instead of more.
Without new pokemon there is no material to build a wole new plot on.
Instead there is a few of legendaries in BW that weren't properly explored left (Kyurem in particular obviously), and half of the region with no plot to follow postgame...
it screams "intentional" to me. Everything was set up in BW already, they just didn't give us the full story.
Ghetsis needed N because the black/white dragons could not be awoken by him, if he takes a walk towards the east he might notice the big *** crater and finally find a dragon of his own...and seeing how Plasma made Genesect out of a fossil, it doesn't seem unreasonable that they have a hand in the whole Kyurem+fake tail=forme business, eh?
Last edited by Mitja; 11th April 2012 at 9:23 PM.
..Or, it's a sequel like the, um, logical conclusion that the "2" in the title brings us to.Which leads to the only logical and really simple conclusion:
BW2 will be retelling BW.
Um, of course there is. Look at Colosseum: no new Pokemon there and it had a totally new plot. There could easily be a new story in this game, new Pokemon or not. Saying "the starters and dragons are gone" does not prove any of this B/Without new pokemon there is no material to build a wole new plot on.
I don't know if this is confirmed or disproved or not, but I want to post my thoughts since we don't have any other scans.
Those two characters to the right of Meloetta are definitely new characters in BW2. At first I thought the shorter one was the girl and the taller one was the boy, but both of them had features that made them look like the opposite gender. Then I saw the rumour about the characters being the female and the male companion, and that makes a lot of sense. The girl, if it is one, has many features of a protagonist (hat, pale skin, same art style, backpack...). She almost looks like a fusion between Hilbert and Hilda.
I need more info now.
Spoiler:- Alpha Sapphire Progress:
BW1 summary: you journey through Unova to collect the Unova badges and challenge the Pokemon League.
BW2 summary: you journey through Unova to collect the Unova badges and challenge the Pokemon League.
Cool sequel, Game Freak.
I journey through Unova to collect the Unova badges and challenge the Pokemon League? Dang it, it's a rehash. *Sale lost*
Look at it from a business standpoint instead of a hardcore fan standpoint. Sure, all the hardcore fans are going to buy the games regardless, but theres a completely different audience that needs to be convinced via advertising. Making the games unnecessarily embody the same aesthetic layout as BW1 is not good for advertising.
It was perfect up to the E4, but the rest is lacking while having lots of potential. Everything about it just comes perfectly together that way. Its not as easy to explain as I thought, but you'll see soon enough anyway.
All the 2 means is, its more than just the average third version, until we get facts.
Of course you can make a standalone unique game, but you wouldn't do that on a serious main game, which you plan ahead from the beginning of the generation.
If you're saying there will be opposite gender palyer rivals with changed looks,
it sounds way more plausible than these being the new looks of the actual player, but unless there is some twist involving Bianca and Cheren, a starter issue arises.
Last edited by Mitja; 11th April 2012 at 10:03 PM.
That's what I thought, as well. Why stick them directly beside the two formes, under Meloetta, and up above the BW logos if they aren't characters relating to the games? The short one appears to be wearing pink, is short, and has a fuzzy hairdo yet looks male. The tall one looks female, is wearing blue, and has a hat on (what is this lol). I'm leaning towards these are either rival / companion type things, or they're the new protagonists.
I'd pick the boy cause he's so short~
In Platinum almost everything was just like D/P and yet it was another selling success.
Last edited by Royal_Qeca; 11th April 2012 at 10:06 PM.
on a site i found some info but don t know if it is all mentioned someone claimed to have buyed the corocoro copy and revealed something of the game here it is http://translate.google.nl/translate...F1330372822%2F at 308 one named byaukran says I'm in japan and bought a copy of coro coro.
So i spoil you.
3 years have passed since BW.
N is now missing, Team plasma reappears. A new leader rules over them and has N's dragon.
BW's protagonist (depends of the gender) is the Striaton gym leader since Shadow triad is Cilan Pod & Cress.
How would there be a "Starter" issue? Professors have more than one set, obviously. How else would they service new trainers?