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    Discuss and speculate the possible changes that may occur in the GAMEPLAY for Black 2 and White 2.
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    What I'm expecting to be added:

    - The "Pokémon following you around" feature returns, but hopefully this time it'll become optional.
    - Gym leader rematches
    - Battle Frontier

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    Kyurem's two signature moves will probably take the spotlight on this version. I would love it if his ability negates the bad side-effect of freeze shock and cold burn. 140 BP and a chance to burn and paralyze without a turn of charge would be a huge upgrade on him.

    I'm guessing that we will play a completely different hero this time if this is truly a sequel to gen V games, because we shouldn't have to re-fight the unova gym leaders if we're to be the same boy/girl again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkrai_Shadowforce View Post
    I would love it if his ability negates the bad side-effect of freeze shock and cold burn. 140 BP and a chance to burn and paralyze without a turn of charge would be a huge upgrade on him.
    that wouldnt really make any sense IMO. what would be the point of having a turn to charge/recharge if his ability negates it? Since this is Kyurem's signature move there is no other pokemon that would have it so the added effect would be kind of pointless. Sure there are event pokemon that could learn these moves, and Smeargle (ha! yeah right) , but i still think it would be a weird ability. I assume Kyurems new ability (if it even gets one, and it should) will be Turbofreeze. another hyped up mold breaker with an epic name that finally matches the ability of the other legendery dragons.

    Im hoping for more combo moves aside from the three lame oath attacks and Reshiram/Zekroms combo. How about Hydor Pump/Thunderbolt combo thats superaffective against all pokemon and does massive damge with the ability to paralyze the opponet? sounds to strong, but also to cool
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    Biggest change will probably be the addition of 5th gen Pokemon to the BW2 dream world.
    Then of course there are move tutors. We'll likely get the main stays, probably many of the popular gen 4 tutors, and HOPEFULLY extremespeed. So many pokemon want it, game freak!

    Looking through the gen V move list, I could see the following made tutorable:
    -Storm Throw
    -Circle Throw
    -Tail Slap
    -Leaf Tornado
    -Acid Spray
    -Clear Smog
    -Synchronoise

    You know, moves that are kind of limited in distribution but aren't amazing and could give some extra options here and there

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    Quote Originally Posted by dewey911p View Post
    that wouldnt really make any sense IMO. what would be the point of having a turn to charge/recharge if his ability negates it? Since this is Kyurem's signature move there is no other pokemon that would have it so the added effect would be kind of pointless. Sure there are event pokemon that could learn these moves, and Smeargle (ha! yeah right) , but i still think it would be a weird ability. I assume Kyurems new ability (if it even gets one, and it should) will be Turbofreeze. another hyped up mold breaker with an epic name that finally matches the ability of the other legendery dragons.
    Normal kyurem forme begs to differ, as he has pressure.Both moves will still need to take a turn to charge. And he can learn those moves as well, but not in any legal way as of now.


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    about the turbofreeze ability, wouldn't that be the same as the normal dragons? What would be a good upgrade for it?


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    Edit: Oops wrong thread.
    Gameplay I just want to see the vs seeker. Also a lot more dream world stuff. Pokemon following you wouldn't hurt either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pela View Post
    Edit: Oops wrong thread.
    Gameplay I just want to see the vs seeker. Also a lot more dream world stuff. Pokemon following you wouldn't hurt either.
    This. So much.

    Also, Gym Leader rematches. That theme is too epic to listen to only 8 times.
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    I don't think they will let Pokémon follow you. Seeing it as a 'sequel' of B/W, the engine will be the same, with a little visual effects added.

    The VS Seeker could be an option though. Along with the Battle Frontier. I just think we'll have to wait until they reveal more.


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    I think that GF will treat BW2 just like they would've if it were Pokemon Grey. I think it would be REALLY awesome if they added new evolutions to pokemon, even though its unlikely as the new pokemon wouldn't be compatible with B/W versions, well maybe that's why they made two? Even so, I've heard speculation that Hoenn may be like an after-story in the game, which seems like a sort of sell-out to the whole Hoenn remake thing.

    I guess if I were to put my speculation into words:
    -New Character Models
    -Awesome and Epic new Story
    -Updated Towns and Cities
    -New Pokemon Rosters for Gym Leaders/E4 (Possibly to increase some difficulty)
    -I also have a feeling they MIGHT bring back older pokemon into the Unova dex, just to add some variety to the wild Unova pokes



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    The thing I want the most is either to have added facilities in the Subway to make it more like a Frontier, or replace it with a Frontier completely. Battle Subway was way to boring for me.

    Also, VS Seekers, Poké Radars, and HGSS-style Bags would be cool, and they could be possible as this is apparently a sequel.

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    Secret Bases wheu wheu. This could work perfectly if there was some type of street pass function. I guess tree bases for the RSE remakes with street pass would be insane though, so many possibilities.
    I hope there's some 3ds features like there was for GSC and the game boy color
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    .They should have Rematches and every time you beat them they get more powerful
    .Make the global trade system have no more hacked pokemon and have a list instead of 6 trades to chose from each time
    .Make the Battle subway have more things to do in it
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    I'll just quote Cynthia:

    "Once every few years, the Champions of each region gather and compete to see who is the strongest! An interesting idea, don't you agree?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flame Mistress View Post
    The thing I want the most is either to have added facilities in the Subway to make it more like a Frontier, or replace it with a Frontier completely. Battle Subway was way to boring for me.

    Also, VS Seekers, Poké Radars, and HGSS-style Bags would be cool, and they could be possible as this is apparently a sequel.
    That's what i'm hoping for as well. I didn't go to the Subway too much and found it boring so i'm hoping for a Frontier kind of thing.

    Gym Leader re-matches would of made B/W a lot better as well, so i'm hoping in some way they can put them in this game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxim View Post
    I'll just quote Cynthia:

    "Once every few years, the Champions of each region gather and compete to see who is the strongest! An interesting idea, don't you agree?"

    If they don't put this in BW2, I'm gonna be MAD!
    If they put that though I wonder who will you fight

    Kanto/Johto - Lance/Red/Gary
    Hoenn - Steven/Wallace/Ruby&Saphire
    Sinnoh - Cynthia or the Champion
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    As far a solid gamplay goes, I don't see much changing. Other that maybe a double battle with the 8th gym, and rework with the puzzles are somethings that might make it in.

    I also want freaking rematches to come back.

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    Hm...I was thinking...since this is going to be sequel..doesnt this mean the story actually continious? I mean will the events of this game take place after those of pokemon BW 1?
    And if yes is there a chance to transfer your old save data from Bw to this one?
    Wouldnt this be awesome?

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    What I'm hoping for is Vs Seeker, Rematches against gym leaders A more thought out plot, A Battlefrontier. I'm also hoping that what Cythia said back in her villa, about the champs make a return and what else? Hoenn If they can put that into the game.
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    Okay, here's how I see Black/White 2 going down, gameplay-wise.

    Since it's pretty unlikely we'll get to import our saves or anything like that, we'll probably be playing a new character, but still in Unova. (or the same ones, and it's just an updated story)

    I also think they might address the pacing issues in Black and White. In the originals, the gyms after Nimbasa City (so the last four) were all on the west side of the region. But it's pretty obvious that the Giant Chasm is going to be an important area (assuming BW2 is in Unova), so we'll need to get over to the east much earlier in the game.

    So either they'll make us go back and forth from west to east throughout the game, instead of making it a post-Elite Four area, or (now, this would be interesting), the four western gym leaders are scrapped (or made into Frontier Brains that are accessed post-Elite Four), and there are four new gyms on the east, that allows the player to get to Kyurem earlier in the game.

    Another thing that would be interesting, is that the Unova Pokemon's Dream World abilities need to be accessed somehow. Unless Nintendo releases them in a slow trickle as event Pokemon (in which case we'll be waiting until like, Generation 7), I suspect the Pokemon of Black/White 2 will have their Dream World abilities by default. Maybe it's some plot by Team Plasma, or maybe N is somehow giving Pokemon these abilities. He's a wierd kid, I wouldn't put it past him.

    The best part, it'd make choosing from the three starters that we already have much more interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pokelovver View Post
    Hm...I was thinking...since this is going to be sequel..doesnt this mean the story actually continious? I mean will the events of this game take place after those of pokemon BW 1?
    And if yes is there a chance to transfer your old save data from Bw to this one?
    Wouldnt this be awesome?
    Not to be rude but there's a storyline discussion.
    I don't think the save data will be transferable. Why? Because people who don't have BW1 are pretty much screwed, and also people who have EV trained all they're pokemon would blast through the game.
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    I would love to see the Pokémon following system return. I really want to see either a new Team or Ghetsis making a new Team, I also want to know what happened to N. I wonder when these games take place in relation to Black and White. Or if they are actually prequels..
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    I don't think Hoenn in the game would be a good idea. If they made Hoenn into a separate game Nintendo would make more money and they would be able to expand both regions more.
    I dont expect pokemon following you because they would have to change a lot of the coding and that doesn't seem worth it IMO.
    I think there might be new regions in Unova, kind of like the sevii islands in FRLG. This region would probably be north of Unova but obviously not really close to Unova so maybe you could fly there. Kind of like you fly from canadian cities into the northern parts of Canada where there's no people but they have really small airplanes.
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    Ugh, why isn't this on 3DS?

    Considering it's claiming to be Black and White 2, I'm kinda expecting a new story, as opposed to the old one but slightly buffed. At the least I want to know what happened to the sages, N and the shadow triad.

    It would also be nice if they altered the region to be less linear, perhaps they could give you access to the right side before the elite four and add a whole new area for post game.

    I'd really like to find pre5th gen pokemon in the wild, since johto managed with a regional dex of 250, and also we could have more support for using DW abilities during the story.

    One thing, I hope they don't mess with the version exclusives. I'm going to get the opposite version to what I've got now, with the expectation I'll get Reshiram and Tornadus.

    I'd like a DW expansion, so we can finally find 5th gen pokemon with DW abilities.

    However, since it's not on the 3DS (argh) I don't think we'll be getting any major graphical update... Please tell me they're not going to insist on putting the entire 5th gen on DS.

    Edit: Also I've got a nasty feeling they're still going to release Grey. Kyurem still looks completely unfinished.
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    what I'd like to see

    - New sprites
    - If it's a sequel, new playable trainers
    - New rivals
    - Something like they did in the 4th gen with helping trainers through areas (Buck, Mira etc)
    - Maybe new rosters for the gym leaders/elite 4
    - trainer sprite animation, don't understand why N, Cheren and Bianca got them but no one else...
    - SAFARI ZONE (every region has had one, why not this one?)
    - Battle frontier
    - More triple and rotation battles
    - More story after elite 4

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