Gameplay Discussion Thread [Read First Post]

[BIGJRA]

Uggh, I'm tired of only having one type of battle per game. You should maybe be able to have both, and more throughout the game than like 5 trainer.

[GenosectArceus]

Not as much of a speculation, more of me just getting my hopes up, but I want the first gym to be Rotation or Triples, depending on which game you're playing.

That's hoping you have enough Pokemon and your EleMonkey is strong enough. And would the Triple Battle be a battle against ALL three triplets or just against one of them?

[drinky93]

-I'd like to see more functioning of the HM's. BW was made too easy by not needing any HM's to progress through the towns. I also can only recall one opportunity to use dive in the game (although RSE didn't give much opportunity either)

-A chance to rechallenge Gym Leaders is a must, particularly with updated teams and a combination of old generation Pkmn.

-More functionality to the battle subway. It was a great opportunity to make a decent battle opportunity but after just going through the options of fighting double or single or link battles i got bored with it quite easily.

-More to do with the Pkmn Musical, Its just a pointless gimmick at the moment which really didn't appeal to many players. (Or alternatively replace it)

-More applications for your C-Gear which doesn't require you to need to connect to others to use, for example somewhere to take notes and check pokemon status's like in DPPt's Poke-watch

-A chance to battle Cilan, Cress and Chilli in the gym leader rematches

-More rotation and triple battles

-Make more depth in Team Plasma after the main storyline finishes.


I dont know just some ideas to through out which might make the game more enjoyable after defeating the elite four.

[NewBarkTownLegend]

If following pokemon feature returns, the champion battles cynthia talks about, gym leader rematches, and battle frontier (particularly battle dome with wifi functions)
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[Grei]

-I'd like to see more functioning of the HM's. BW was made too easy by not needing any HM's to progress through the towns. I also can only recall one opportunity to use dive in the game (although RSE didn't give much opportunity either)

I don't know if I agree, just because I enjoyed not requiring HM slaves or move slots being taken up by HM moves. Besides, if you think about it, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense for you to need HMs in order to travel between towns. Those routes would logically be traveled very often, and after the hundredth trainer had to use Cut or Strength to get across a route, you'd think there'd be enough trees or rocks cleared out of the way for it to no longer be necessary. HMs make more sense when they have to be used on less-traveled paths and dungeons.

-A chance to rechallenge Gym Leaders is a must, particularly with updated teams and a combination of old generation Pkmn.

I agree that rechallenging Gym Trainers with stronger teams would be wonderful, but I don't agree about combining old Gen Pokemon in the mix. That has never made sense to me, and it makes the least amount of sense here. Unova is known for having its own Pokemon and being separate from other regions (never mind the stupidity of Eastern Unova), so the Gym Leaders suddenly whipping out older Pokemon just doesn't seem right.

-More functionality to the battle subway. It was a great opportunity to make a decent battle opportunity but after just going through the options of fighting double or single or link battles i got bored with it quite easily.

Agreed. I hope that, if it doesn't become the new Battle Frontier (which I can totally see happening), it gets better trains, and a new line will take you to the Battle Frontier (in addition to maybe other new lines with access to newer areas. Letting the Battle Subway take you to various spots in Unova wouldn't hurt, either).

-More to do with the Pkmn Musical, Its just a pointless gimmick at the moment which really didn't appeal to many players. (Or alternatively replace it)

Yup. It's so stupidly simple right now. They should make it kind of like the dancing portion of Sinnoh's Contests, where you had to control your Pokemon's movements.

-More applications for your C-Gear which doesn't require you to need to connect to others to use, for example somewhere to take notes and check pokemon status's like in DPPt's Poke-watch

I like this idea. I personally would rather the C-Gear keep its current functions, and add a phone (or, preferably SMS Text) feature, which let you contact other characters and let other characters contact you. Maybe also give it a map of the region--the Town Map being separate from the C-Gear is just strange to me.

-A chance to battle Cilan, Cress and Chilli in the gym leader rematches

This'd be cool. I'd be fine with three separate matches, although it's more likely that it'd be a Triple Battle.

-More rotation and triple battles

DEFINITELY. It was SO annoying with them being so scarce in BW.

-Make more depth in Team Plasma after the main storyline finishes.

I could get into this. Team Plasma has such an awesome concept that it seems like a waste if they don't get more development, anyway.

[Raichu:)]

I dont really want to travel to hoenn in these games, id rather it be seperate and the extra bit in these games be like a champions league or something like that rather than go to hoenn, however if it was hoenn (which i hope it isnt) i want to start again, get the hoenn starter and travel, thats the mystery of a game, rather than go battle uber powerful pokemon in gyms -_- so yeah im all for a champions league i think :P

[RexNovus]

They really need to add a way to play the Subway/Battle Frontier, whatever, with a friend via wifi. It's idiotic that this wasn't in the first Black and White games.

[Whimsicotton]

This has probably been mentioned already but AUTO-RUN LIKE IN HGSS PLZ. Sometimes I just want to run up and down so I can get the shaking grass, but I'll get bored if I can't do something else at the same time. Auto-run would make it so much easier. Plus, who else finds their thumb really hurts after they've had to hold down B for ages?

I'd like to have pokemon following behind as well; I mean, it makes sense not to have it all the same because of the storyline (Pokemon aren't exactly 'trapped' if they're allowed to roam free outside their pokeballs :P) but it was a really neat feature in HGSS that I'd love to see again, if not in BW2 at least in the next games. ;w;"

I agree with what was said about the first gym being rotation or something. I'd like to be able to battle all three of the gym leaders there at once, though the only thing being that at the point of the first gym, there are very few pokemon available which would make the whole three-types thing a little difficult. Maybe if they had a rematch battle later on in the game?

A little less wi-fi specific stuff maybe? I mean, the C-Gear is ALL wireless and connectivity and all that, but seriously I don't have enough RL friends that play pokemon and my Wi-Fi doesn't even work half the time - It's a shame, because the C-Gear is such a cool feature and I can hardly use it. :C

[HyperXhydra95]

Tomorrow probably we'll have more details about B2W2 because really it's getting annoying...

[Bolt the Cat]

I don't know if I agree, just because I enjoyed not requiring HM slaves or move slots being taken up by HM moves. Besides, if you think about it, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense for you to need HMs in order to travel between towns. Those routes would logically be traveled very often, and after the hundredth trainer had to use Cut or Strength to get across a route, you'd think there'd be enough trees or rocks cleared out of the way for it to no longer be necessary. HMs make more sense when they have to be used on less-traveled paths and dungeons.

Agreed. I also like how in this game you didn't need specific badges to use them, that's an annoying restriction. It makes more sense to be able to use them whenever they're given.

I agree that rechallenging Gym Trainers with stronger teams would be wonderful, but I don't agree about combining old Gen Pokemon in the mix. That has never made sense to me, and it makes the least amount of sense here. Unova is known for having its own Pokemon and being separate from other regions (never mind the stupidity of Eastern Unova), so the Gym Leaders suddenly whipping out older Pokemon just doesn't seem right.

Think about it this way. Gym Leaders and Elite 4 members travel to different regions quite a lot, don't they? So naturally while they're there, they'd find some interesting Pokemon there that they'd like to catch. And then they'd withhold them from you until you rematch them, so that they can challenge you with Pokemon you've never seen before.

On that note, what do you think of my ideas for the Gym Leaders and E4?

Yup. It's so stupidly simple right now. They should make it kind of like the dancing portion of Sinnoh's Contests, where you had to control your Pokemon's movements.

Meh, I stopped caring about contests after 3rd gen when they added stupid things like dancing and accessories. Unless they revert those kinds of changes, contests will always be stupid in my eyes.

I like this idea. I personally would rather the C-Gear keep its current functions, and add a phone (or, preferably SMS Text) feature, which let you contact other characters and let other characters contact you. Maybe also give it a map of the region--the Town Map being separate from the C-Gear is just strange to me.

A little less wi-fi specific stuff maybe? I mean, the C-Gear is ALL wireless and connectivity and all that, but seriously I don't have enough RL friends that play pokemon and my Wi-Fi doesn't even work half the time - It's a shame, because the C-Gear is such a cool feature and I can hardly use it. :C

C Gear is near useless in single player, I almost always have it turned off. Adding some neat apps and features from Poketch and Pokegear would be nice.

This has probably been mentioned already but AUTO-RUN LIKE IN HGSS PLZ. Sometimes I just want to run up and down so I can get the shaking grass, but I'll get bored if I can't do something else at the same time. Auto-run would make it so much easier. Plus, who else finds their thumb really hurts after they've had to hold down B for ages?

I agree. There's all kinds of little things from Platinum and HGSS that they removed in BW1 that really bug me, and this is one of them. Having to hold down B to run faster is somewhat annoying to me.

[Whimsicotton]

Actually, something I'd like to make a return in the secret bases, or at least something a bit like the villa in Platinum. I know it's kinda like that in the Dream World, but I really liked having a place I could decorate to go hide in every now and then.

Preferably, something like in RSE where there would be specific places to make bases in. I liked the treehouses the most :P

[Bolt the Cat]

Actually, something I'd like to make a return in the secret bases, or at least something a bit like the villa in Platinum. I know it's kinda like that in the Dream World, but I really liked having a place I could decorate to go hide in every now and then.

Preferably, something like in RSE where there would be specific places to make bases in. I liked the treehouses the most :P

Secret Bases were okay, but I'd prefer them to involve designing your own puzzles as opposed to decorating a room. I doubt they'll ever do that, though. Speaking of puzzles, you know who I'd like to see again? The Trick Master. His puzzles were so fun, and it was a shame you couldn't redo them. I hope he makes a reappearance and that you can redo his puzzles for fun.

[Hydrohs]

Speaking of puzzles, you know who I'd like to see again? The Trick Master. His puzzles were so fun, and it was a shame you couldn't redo them. I hope he makes a reappearance and that you can redo his puzzles for fun.

You are not alone. The Trick Master was really interesting, I liked solving those puzzles. If he is ever brought back I'd like there to be more puzzles.

[DBK]

Secret Bases were okay, but I'd prefer them to involve designing your own puzzles as opposed to decorating a room. I doubt they'll ever do that, though. Speaking of puzzles, you know who I'd like to see again? The Trick Master. His puzzles were so fun, and it was a shame you couldn't redo them. I hope he makes a reappearance and that you can redo his puzzles for fun.

Yes, yes! A thousand times yes! The Trick House was awesome. I hope The Trick Master makes a return.

[JD]

You know they really need to fix GTS in this game I am sick and tired of seeing "Wanted Zekrom Level One" Hopefully they fix that because I know I'm not the only one that wants that fixed.

[Hydrohs]

You know they really need to fix GTS in this game I am sick and tired of seeing "Wanted Zekrom Level One" Hopefully they fix that because I know I'm not the only one that wants that fixed.

That won't be fixed, because then if they ever release a level one Zekrom as an event, it can't be traded.

[mitchman_93]

GTS isn't game based as far as I'm concerned, and considering how they can damn well update the entire PGL for the release of a game, they can make exceptions to restrictions as easily as they can filter bad words among random letter. This ain't the 90s.

[Hydrohs]

GTS isn't game based as far as I'm concerned, and considering how they can damn well update the entire PGL for the release of a game, they can make exceptions to restrictions as easily as they can filter bad words among random letter. This ain't the 90s.

Probably more work than they're willing to put in.

[Ignika]

That won't be fixed, because then if they ever release a level one Zekrom as an event, it can't be traded.

I'm sure they'll release ANOTHER Tao dragon event and at level 1.

[mitchman_93]

Probably more work than they're willing to put in.

Laziness isn't exactly an excuse they could use for some simple html coding when it comes to making their services a little more tolerable. And that's the one thing I hated about Pokemon. Its on one hand the only community Nintendo acknowledges and on the other always getting a nice big shaft cause of Nintendo never really giving a damn bout the games afterwards.