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    Quote Originally Posted by wiiboychris View Post
    I so wish for a real, new Tales game designed for a portable. I wish we had a Tales of Hearts remake.
    Hey, you never know. One may come eventually. That'd be great, seeing as that's another Tales game never released outside of Japan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Night Shadow View Post
    I've only played Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World, so I'm still relatively new to the series.
    Welcome to Tales! Sadly, some of the best games are still only in Japanese, so I hope you're willing to import. Then again, you can't get any worse than ToS:KoR (excluding GBA ToP...), so you should be okay with any Tales game out in America at the moment.

    Quote Originally Posted by wiiboychris View Post
    I so wish for a real, new Tales game designed for a portable. I wish we had a Tales of Hearts remake.
    I guess you haven't heard of the whole Triverse thing Namdai is doing? Considering their treatment of ToI's remake and the whole Triverse crap, the last thing I want them to touch is ToH and screw it up. I even seen comments on the official Tales forum about how ToH could be in 3D and that some folks wouldn't mind. If they are going to remake ToH, it better be in 2D, Triverse nonsense or not. And they better give all effort and actually fix mistakes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blaze boy View Post
    This pretty much, plus the fact that you don't have to share the TV with other member of the family.
    Yeah, I have that problem. Usually they start kicking you off after 2 hours.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hydrohs View Post
    I've got my own TVs, so that's not an issue. And I much prefer the larger screenspace. When a JRPG is designed for a handheld they work really well, but there were parts in Abyss where I definitely wished I had been playing it on a larger screen. It didn't work quite as well since it wasn't originally designed to be played on a smaller screen.
    Well, there's JRPG's for handhelds and consoles, everybody's happy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Evilchibi_pichu View Post
    Welcome to Tales! Sadly, some of the best games are still only in Japanese, so I hope you're willing to import. Then again, you can't get any worse than ToS:KoR (excluding GBA ToP...), so you should be okay with any Tales game out in America at the moment.
    Abyss will take me 45+ hours anyways so I should be preoccupied.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blaze boy View Post
    I currently started Phantasia and Symphonia but still yet to finish them.
    You should finish Phantasia, it easily has the best story along with abyss. The battle system didn't really hold up to time but the story makes up for it.

    Quote Originally Posted by wiiboychris View Post
    I so wish for a real, new Tales game designed for a portable. I wish we had a Tales of Hearts remake.
    Seeing abyss on the 3DS makes me think that if they put the effort in, we could get a really great, long game. I was actually reading somewhere and someone posted the specs of Graces and turns out that it could actually run on the 3DS with.

    Quote Originally Posted by Evilchibi_pichu View Post
    Welcome to Tales! Sadly, some of the best games are still only in Japanese, so I hope you're willing to import. Then again, you can't get any worse than ToS:KoR (excluding GBA ToP...).
    Tales of the Tempest is worst than both.

    I didn't mind ToP GBA. Mainly because I didn't the others, spell pause is annoying so if the PSP version ever gets released, I'll pick it up in a heartbeat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evilchibi_pichu View Post
    I guess you haven't heard of the whole Triverse thing Namdai is doing?
    I haven't either, what is it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Night Shadow View Post
    Well, there's JRPG's for handhelds and consoles, everybody's happy.
    There are some JRPGs I prefer on consoles and some I prefer on handhelds. It really just comes down to what system they were designed for, since that's typically where they work best.


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    Tales of the Tempest is worst than both.
    imo Tempest was pretty good, same with ToS2.

    it was a test title for the DS to see what they can do with the next Tales of game on the DS just like ToV was for the Xbox 360 and graces for Wii, it was to test out what the limit were.

    plus yeah it not good but it pretty better than RM which infact did come outside japan, I respect those that like it but i didn't enjoy it as much as i did tempest.

    to me Tempest had a great story. it not the best but for the ds game i prefer it over ToI and ToH just could never get into those two fully.

    I guess you haven't heard of the whole Triverse thing Namdai is doing?
    it only been hint at with some Tempest artwork and Heart artwork in game and the To Be continume thing, till Namco come out and say they making it i going to wait, and I wouldn't mind a tempest remake infact i actually excited.

    and a question what do you guys look for when buying tales game? Story? Gameplay, Character?

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    I look for if it's a Tales game. If it is, I buy it. Simple as that.


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    Just out of curiosity, are the Tales games all set in the same universe?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Night Shadow View Post
    Just out of curiosity, are the Tales games all set in the same universe?
    Nope. Don't try making sense out of that. The last guy who did it said it was more complicated than the Zelda timeline. *Snickers*

    On a serious note, though, these are the games that share the same universe which are just two (in order):

    Tales of Symphonia -> ToS: Dawn of the New World -> Tales of Phantasia

    Tales of Destiny -> Tales of Destiny 2

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    X could be a Directors Cut of Xillia. Namco even said themselves that they cut a bunch of **** from the game due to time constraints. I'm doubtful though because all the enhanced games got ported over to Sony systems which Xillia is already on.

    Phantasia X, Destiny DC, Vesperia PS3, Graces F, Innocence R, Symphonia PS2, Rebirth PSP, and I know I'm forgetting something else. Eternia PSP or something.

    Honestly, a Tempest remake would be cool.

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    Yeah Eternia was ported to PSP in Japan and Europe. And I really don't see why you're all complaining about Xillia. Maybe they did cut a bunch of stuff, but by all accounts it's still a fantastic game. I'd rather get it than nothing.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hydrohs View Post
    Yeah Eternia was ported to PSP in Japan and Europe. And I really don't see why you're all complaining about Xillia. Maybe they did cut a bunch of stuff, but by all accounts it's still a fantastic game. I'd rather get it than nothing.
    Only two outfits are in the game, the rest is DLC. The Cameo Battle is missing. And there are other elements left, too. There are way more people clamoring for an updated release.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wiiboychris View Post
    Only two outfits are in the game, the rest is DLC. The Cameo Battle is missing. And there are other elements left, too. There are way more people clamoring for an updated release.
    Was the narrative cohesive and complete? because tbh, that's all that really matters. Costumes and cameo battles are trivial

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hydrohs View Post
    I haven't either, what is it?
    Triverse is basically an idea of Namdai that the Tales of Hearts, Innocence, and Tempest worlds are related/connected to each other. In ToI:R, there was a gate called the Triverse Gate where     Spoiler:- New Characters:
    There was also a comment from one of the guys that did ToI:R saying that he wanted to remake all the DS games to the Vita which makes a ToH:R and a ToT:R possible and helping the Triverse idea. While it's still not set in stone that the Triverse will happen, it wouldn't surprise me if Namdai has the idea in mind and would implement it.

    Quote Originally Posted by jb08045 View Post
    Tales of the Tempest is worst than both.

    I didn't mind ToP GBA. Mainly because I didn't the others, spell pause is annoying so if the PSP version ever gets released, I'll pick it up in a heartbeat.
    I always forget about ToT, but you're right. I'm planning on getting ToPX one day, so I finally play the game (after Rebirth, of course). It's too bad that fans that have played ToPX have said that the story gets completely screwed up due to the new character.

    Quote Originally Posted by jb08045 View Post
    X could be a Directors Cut of Xillia. Namco even said themselves that they cut a bunch of **** from the game due to time constraints. I'm doubtful though because all the enhanced games got ported over to Sony systems which Xillia is already on.

    Phantasia X, Destiny DC, Vesperia PS3, Graces F, Innocence R, Symphonia PS2, Rebirth PSP, and I know I'm forgetting something else. Eternia PSP or something.

    Honestly, a Tempest remake would be cool.
    Wouldn't it be too soon since there hasn't been any announcement on the Japanese side on ToX: DC? It could just be regular ToX, but if a Director's Cut does come out we would so get screwed over... Then again, this could mean nothing since apparently Namco registers trademarks all the time and not always brings those games over.

    Others would disagree about a Tempest remake. I, personally, wouldn't mind seeing what they would do. They can't mess it up anymore than it already is. ...Right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wiiboychris View Post
    Only two outfits are in the game, the rest is DLC. The Cameo Battle is missing. And there are other elements left, too. There are way more people clamoring for an updated release.
    I'm with Chris-kun on this one. Who really cares about little extras like that, it's the game I'm interested in.

    Quote Originally Posted by Evilchibi_pichu View Post
    There was also a comment from one of the guys that did ToI:R saying that he wanted to remake all the DS games to the Vita which makes a ToH:R and a ToT:R possible and helping the Triverse idea. While it's still not set in stone that the Triverse will happen, it wouldn't surprise me if Namdai has the idea in mind and would implement it.
    Well, I'd love to see the three remade for the Vita, and of course released in NA, so I could play them. Regardless of whether it's because of a Triverse.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Evilchibi_pichu View Post
    Others would disagree about a Tempest remake. I, personally, wouldn't mind seeing what they would do. They can't mess it up anymore than it already is. ...Right?
    I agree, I didn't hate Tempest, but from a Tales standpoint, it's lacking. Iirc it was the first one released on the DS, so they were just testing the water so I didn't mind to much. It also had the best theme song of the three and the two main characters keep getting into spinoffs so somebody likes them. A Vita remake would be pretty cool, maybe it can bring the game back to mothership status again.

    As for Innocence R, I'd buy it we got it but I wish they'd do away with the random encounters. That only works in Pokemon lol.

    I would still buy Xillia if we got it, I personally don't really think it's that incomplete because of no cameos, NamcoIsland. But from what I understand, the story is really short, and the differences for the two main characters stories are little.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jb08045 View Post
    X could be a Directors Cut of Xillia. Namco even said themselves that they cut a bunch of **** from the game due to time constraints. I'm doubtful though because all the enhanced games got ported over to Sony systems which Xillia is already on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ParaChomp View Post
    On that topic, what's your thought of 5 party members in a battle in a Tales game?
    Replace "a Tales" with "any RPG" and the answer would be the same: overkill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ParaChomp View Post
    On that topic, what's your thought of 5 party members in a battle in a Tales game?
    Agreeing with overkill. 4 party member allows for even gameplay. One Melee character, mage, Healer, and specialist or w/e floats your boat. I wouldn't mind being able to swap out a character mid battle for another using a item or skill though.

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    To be fair, Final Fantasy IV pulled that off, but it made everyone weaker because of it.

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    Four party members is certainly fine, as jb said it's balanced nicely. Allows for good, even distribution.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hydrohs View Post
    I'm with Chris-kun on this one. Who really cares about little extras like that, it's the game I'm interested in.

    Well, I'd love to see the three remade for the Vita, and of course released in NA, so I could play them. Regardless of whether it's because of a Triverse.
    I do! Those things are fun and greatly help keep post-game players occupied. And it's always fun to fight other characters. Plus, if a mothership title doesn't have the basic post-game content it does have an incomplete feel to it since those things have become a part of what it means to have a really good Tales game. But, I also heard that the story is incomplete and feels rushed as well.

    I wouldn't mind seeing a remake of Hearts, but if it's anything like ToI:R then no thanks. ToI:R took out many things that made the original good and the graphics were horrible for a Vita. No love or effort went into that game and I would hate for that to happen to a great game like Hearts. It doesn't help that if Hearts was in 2D, it'll never have a chance to come over here, so they would have to make it into 3D just to have it have a chance. I wonder what chances do we have getting Tales on Vita, though. Namco doesn't seem to care about new Tales handheld games.

    Quote Originally Posted by jb08045 View Post
    I agree, I didn't hate Tempest, but from a Tales standpoint, it's lacking. Iirc it was the first one released on the DS, so they were just testing the water so I didn't mind to much. It also had the best theme song of the three and the two main characters keep getting into spinoffs so somebody likes them. A Vita remake would be pretty cool, maybe it can bring the game back to mothership status again.

    As for Innocence R, I'd buy it we got it but I wish they'd do away with the random encounters. That only works in Pokemon lol.
    I thought Tempest was bad because it was outsourced to a company that didn't know what they were doing? Because it sounded worse than it just being a testrun considering Namdai was so shamed of it they had to create the whole Escort status. Yeah, I was thinking the same. If they really worked on it, they could make Tempest into something awesome and give it it's status back.

    I was so mad at the fact they included random encounters. Random encounters are just freaking annoying, haha.

    I also agree with having just 4. The game is already unbalanced if you bring in friends to play with! What they should do is continuing to make the AI better because then we won't need another teammate running in to get killed in 5 hits. That means you, every healer in existence.
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    This is probably a really stupid question or I skipped over reading it in the tutorial pages, but in Graces f, do the stat boosts you get from the titles stay with you even after you switch to another title?
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