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    Default VenoHex Team

    Eh Yo everyone! I was hoping I could get some help and suggestions with my venohex team. This whole team is based around the idea of poisoning the opponent using toxic spikes and toxic then sweeping the other team using the moves venoshock and hex. So here is the team:

    Nidoqueen:
    Move 1: Toxic Spikes
    Move 2: Roar
    Move 3: Earth Power
    Move 4: Fire Blast
    Nature: Bold
    Ability: Poison Point
    Item:Black Sludge
    Ev's: 252 Hp / 252 Def / 4 SpDef

    The lead. She sets up the toxic spikes and proceeds to either roar or switch out for later use. Earth power helps with the poison type pokemon who come in trying to get rid of my spikes. Fire Blast deals nicely with Scizor, Fortress, and Ferrothorn who try and come in and set up on this team.


    Gengar:
    Move 1: Venoshock
    Move 2: Focus Blast
    Move 3: Hex
    Move 4: Destiny Bond
    Nature: Timid
    Ability: Levitate
    Item:Life Orb
    Ev's: 252 SpAtk / 252 Speed / 4 SpDef

    This guy is an absolute monster. Once an opponent is poisoned, he comes in for the revenge kill and starts sweeping with his duel stab moves and focus blast. Once a pokemon the team can't handle comes in Gengar takes them out of the game with destiny bond. No one ever sees it coming with this sweeper set.

    Bisharp:
    Move 1: Toxic
    Move 2: Sucker Punch
    Move 3: Brick Break
    Move 4: Iron Head
    Nature: Adamant
    Ability: Defiant
    Item: Balloon, Lum Berry
    Ev's: 120 Hp / 252 Atk / 136 SpDef

    This guy laughs at the psychic type attacks that are directed at half of this team. Besides countering psychics, his main role is to poison flying type pokemon as he resists flying type attacks.

    Roserade:
    Move 1: Toxic Spikes
    Move 2: Leaf Storm
    Move 3: Venoshock
    Move 4: Shadow Ball
    Nature: Timid
    Ability: Natural Cure
    Item: Choice Scarf
    Ev's: 252 SpAtk / 252 Speed / 4 Hp

    Roserade has the ability to set up toxic spikes quickly should Nidoqueen get ko'd right off the bat. If I get toxic spikes down with the queen though, Roserade makes a surprisingly quick revenge killer as well as a check to water type pokemon trying to deal with Nidoqueen.

    Chandelure:
    Move 1: Substitute
    Move 2: Calm Mind
    Move 3: Hex
    Move 4: Fire Blast
    Nature: Bold
    Ability: Flash Fire
    Item:Leftovers
    Ev's: 252 Hp / 252 Def / 4 SpAtk

    This team has several pokemon weak to fire. In order to counter that weakness, it was essential to incorporate a pokemon with flash fire. Not only will a flash fire boosted Fire blast rip apart most pokemon, after a few calm minds and a sub, Chandelure will be incredibly hard to take down.

    Honchkrow:
    Move 1: Sucker Punch
    Move 2: Brave Bird
    Move 3: Pursuit
    Move 4: Superpower
    Nature: Adament
    Ability: Moxie
    Item: Choice Band
    Ev's: 252 Atk / 252 Speed / 4 Hp

    This thing provides another nice psychic resist, as well as a much needed ground immunity. With its 125 base attack and a choice band, his attacks will tear a huge hole in anything that tries to switch in. It also provides another physical attacker, which this team is in dire need of.

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    The problem with Toxic Spikes is that not only is it removed from the field every time a poison type switches in, but the pokemon that can set it up are often easily set up on. I would lead with something fast and powerful, and then switch in a Toxic Spiker at the soonest opportunity. Aerodactyl, Weavile, and Sceptile are all good options.
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    You stole my team! What a noob!

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    Actually, he stole the idea of your team. Almost all the pokemon are different.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Pichu47 View Post
    Actually, he stole the idea of your team. Almost all the pokemon are different.
    Yeah that's what I meant >.<
    but he still fails for it.

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    Lucario and Exadrill are going to ruin this team,just saying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkerones View Post
    Lucario and Exadrill are going to ruin this team,just saying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe The Bow View Post
    Yeah that's what I meant >.<
    but he still fails for it.
    If it's just an idea that isn't similar to your team at all, not counting Gengar, he doesn't fail for it since it's really not like yours at all.
    Calling him a noob for having a team that synergizes around Toxic Spikes better than yours doesn't make any sense.

    To the OP: I recommend Stone Edge over Brick Break on Bisharp since it helps cover Flying types you resist, and maybe Metal Burst over Iron Head?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihakasa View Post
    If it's just an idea that isn't similar to your team at all, not counting Gengar, he doesn't fail for it since it's really not like yours at all.
    Calling him a noob for having a team that synergizes around Toxic Spikes better than yours doesn't make any sense.

    To the OP: I recommend Stone Edge over Brick Break on Bisharp since it helps cover Flying types you resist, and maybe Metal Burst over Iron Head?
    Over your horribly unproffesional sentence, I have developed a strong dislike towards you..

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    Over your horribly unproffesional sentence, I have developed a strong dislike towards you..
    Actually, he's right, so you should stop complaining.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe The Bow View Post
    Over your horribly unproffesional sentence, I have developed a strong dislike towards you..
    I didn't realize we were being professional, but considering how your previous post had nothing to do at all with the topic, I'd say that you're the pot calling the kettle black. Either way, I'd like to know why you dislike me strongly when I'm pretty sure my former post was the only one directed at you that was on a personal level.


    Back on topic: I actually retract my statement about Metal Burst. Since your Bisharp is bulky, it necessarily won't be taking damage often to take advantage of the All-Counter thing Metal Burst is. Stick with Iron Head for the consistency.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihakasa View Post
    I didn't realize we were being professional, but considering how your previous post had nothing to do at all with the topic, I'd say that you're the pot calling the kettle black. Either way, I'd like to know why you dislike me strongly when I'm pretty sure my former post was the only one directed at you that was on a personal level.


    Back on topic: I actually retract my statement about Metal Burst. Since your Bisharp is bulky, it necessarily won't be taking damage often to take advantage of the All-Counter thing Metal Burst is. Stick with Iron Head for the consistency.
    Because you support the noob who completley stole me and 3.14kachu's idea and phrases over me. He only has 2 posts and I have over 50. It's like he made an account just to make me mad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe The Bow View Post
    Because you support the noob who completley stole me and 3.14kachu's idea and phrases over me. He only has 2 posts and I have over 50. It's like he made an account just to make me mad.
    Toxic Spikes is not your idea. Neither is that Gengar set. Also, 3.14kachu didn't seem to have any problem with it. Literally the only thing your teams have in common is that Gengar set and the move Toxic Spikes. He doesn't even have the same lead as you, plus his team supports Hex, not just Tspikes.
    50 posts doesn't make you the creative director at Nintendo either, please stop being so selfish over the "similarities" between your two completely different sets and thinking anyone would bother to make an account to specifically annoy you, lest many people hold grudges towards you for whatever reason.
    Plus, strongly disliking me because of basic rationalizing skills is kind of petty. Still, I see the lack of "profession" but I digress.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihakasa View Post
    Toxic Spikes is not your idea. Neither is that Gengar set. Also, 3.14kachu didn't seem to have any problem with it. Literally the only thing your teams have in common is that Gengar set and the move Toxic Spikes. He doesn't even have the same lead as you, plus his team supports Hex, not just Tspikes.
    50 posts doesn't make you the creative director at Nintendo either, please stop being so selfish over the "similarities" between your two completely different sets and thinking anyone would bother to make an account to specifically annoy you, lest many people hold grudges towards you for whatever reason.
    Plus, strongly disliking me because of basic rationalizing skills is kind of petty. Still, I see the lack of "profession" but I digress.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe The Bow View Post
    Do you want to know what is smooth?
    I feel obligated to say yes even though all we're doing is contributing spam to this thread, so I'd suggest finishing this via visitor messages, but I suppose it's up to you now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihakasa View Post
    I feel obligated to say yes even though all we're doing is contributing spam to this thread, so I'd suggest finishing this via visitor messages, but I suppose it's up to you now.
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    Seriously guys, stop spamming.




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    I just want it to be known that even though my username was mentioned in that argument, I had nothing to do with it.

    On topic: jdk19, you might want to try Air Balloon on Chandelure. The turn when the foe uses Earthquake can be used to boost your stats with Calm Mind.
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    I like the idea of Aerodactyl. What kind of set would you suggest running? I'm also as bit weary of chandelier. Should I switch it for aero? Also I feel like this team is weak to fire without chandle

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    Joe The Bow shut up. He didn't steal your team, he just used a common theme that a lot of people have already done. And guess what, ITS A BAD IDEA. Hex / Venoshock only does a little more than Shadow Ball / Sludge Bomb (but they have great secondary effects!).. you're going to waste a whole turn poisoning something just for a small damage increase.

    I'll rate later, but seriously guys (aka Joe The Bow) stop the spam.

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    How do I counter lucario?

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    Roserade is your most expendable member. I say you replace him with gliscor, a poisen heal varient. Use Pichu's gliscor set, which you can find on my RMT. It solves you exadrill weakness, and your lucario weakness, as long as ice punch isn't there.
    Yep we should ban baton pass, and weather too. Oh and Trick Room, I'm tired of having to worry about Trick Room all the time. Just ban the move Trick Room, and prankster, it's broken. Ban all status moves on prankster users, they're too cheap. Oh and ban Probopass to it's so cheap. Just ban everything except Magikarp with splash.
    Well, actually Blaziken isn't really Uber because some people whined about how they were getting owned by it. I mean, it doesn't stand a chance in the Uber enviroment.

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    Roserade is your most expendable member. I say you replace him with gliscor, a poisen heal varient. Use Pichu's gliscor set, which you can find on my RMT. It solves you exadrill weakness, and your lucario weakness, as long as ice punch isn't there.
    Yep we should ban baton pass, and weather too. Oh and Trick Room, I'm tired of having to worry about Trick Room all the time. Just ban the move Trick Room, and prankster, it's broken. Ban all status moves on prankster users, they're too cheap. Oh and ban Probopass to it's so cheap. Just ban everything except Magikarp with splash.
    Well, actually Blaziken isn't really Uber because some people whined about how they were getting owned by it. I mean, it doesn't stand a chance in the Uber enviroment.

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