Team Building Help Thread

[That Crazy Russian™]

what ev spread would you suggest on tomb? ( i assume it was about my team)

also, edit on magmortar: flare blitz> hp grass.

ps: without sweeping tomb, i have ho SpA sweepers. id rather use my personal set, tbh. surprise value, you know?

[Dragonicwari]

looking for a team to support my hydregon so it can sweep so far i got

Hydreigon@ life orb
Evs??? had no idea what they were when i trained it fully
moveset:
outrage
crunch
dragon pulse
surf


Galvantula@life orb
252speed/252sp.attk/4spdef
thunder
energy ball
hp ice
bug buzz

looking for suggestions on what else to have on my team please

I suggest a timid nature on galvantula and a hasty or naive on your dragon their. Also hydreigon might enjoy a choice scarf and a move to prevent you from being walked by heatran, I would probably drop dragon pulse or outrage for surf or hidden power ground.

Onto the support; a spinner might be nice, Starmie can double as a fighting type counter.

Physically bulky eviolite chansey might be another problem, so a fighting type would be nice I'm sure. Conkelder might be a nice addition, as being poisoned can only make it stronger. Other options may include: Breloom and Gliscor.

Then you are going to want a stealth rocker, Skarmory or Forretress/Ferrothorn would work well.

Lastly you may want wish support so hydreigon can keep coming back, you can't go wrong with blissey family their.

[JoshuaMunoz]

I want to build a team based around Arcanine and Shaymin (Singles, UU)
This is my first attempt to make a team, so please rate it for now
[spoiler]
Arcanine (Offensive) @ Life Orb
Adamant
-Close Combat
-Wild Charge
-Flare Blitz
-ExtremeSpeed

My main physical attacker. Close Combat for hitting pokemon that resist the rest of my moves hard, Wild charge for some flying and water types, flare blitz for STAB, obviously. And ExtremeSpeed for the revenge kill if the Pokemon is already at low HP.

Shaymin @ Life Orb
Timid
-Seed Flare
-Earth Power
-Air Slash/ HP [Fire]
-Rest

I use this instead of Roserade cause i like it better. Seed Flare for obvious reasons. Earth power/Air slash and/or HP [ fire] is for coverage and rest is for healing and switch.


That's it. I think what other options are Stealth Rockers (Bronzong most probably) and Bulky Pokemon. Please help me, thanks. And also i would really prefer if you VM me instead of answering me, thanks

[AlexandriaTheMixed]

I want to build a team based around Arcanine and Shaymin (Singles, UU)
This is my first attempt to make a team, so please rate it for now
[spoiler]
Arcanine (Offensive) @ Life Orb
Adamant
-Close Combat
-Wild Charge
-Flare Blitz
-ExtremeSpeed

My main physical attacker. Close Combat for hitting pokemon that resist the rest of my moves hard, Wild charge for some flying and water types, flare blitz for STAB, obviously. And ExtremeSpeed for the revenge kill if the Pokemon is already at low HP.

Shaymin @ Life Orb
Timid
-Seed Flare
-Earth Power
-Air Slash/ HP [Fire]
-Rest

I use this instead of Roserade cause i like it better. Seed Flare for obvious reasons. Earth power/Air slash and/or HP [ fire] is for coverage and rest is for healing and switch.


That's it. I think what other options are Stealth Rockers (Bronzong most probably) and Bulky Pokemon. Please help me, thanks. And also i would really prefer if you VM me instead of answering me, thanks

EV's. Gimme them EV's.

[JoshuaMunoz]

Forgot to give them EVS in this list, but they are given the same smogon Ev list.

[AlexandriaTheMixed]

Forgot to give them EVS in this list, but they are given the same smogon Ev list.

I don't feel like looking for it, so I'm just gonna guess all out offensive. Also, I'm assuming Arcanines said ability to be Intimidate.

HP Fire > Air Slash.

I'd use Suicune as it covers up a few weaknesses the team has, is the beginning of a defensive wall, and completes the F/W/G core.

Suicune @ Leftovers.
252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Bold Nature
- Scald
- Calm Mind
- Rest
- Sleep Talk

[Italian_Man46]

Do you guys have any ideas for a Special Sweeper to go along with my competitive team?

My team is:
Skarmory (Physical Wall and Spikes setup)
Metagross (Sweeper, Maybe even a revenge killer)
Gyrados (DD setup, Physical Sweeper)
Umbreon (Special Wall)
Dragonite (Another Sweeper for coverage)

Thank you!

[Serpentine]

Do you guys have any ideas for a Special Sweeper to go along with my competitive team?

My team is:
Skarmory (Physical Wall and Spikes setup)
Metagross (Sweeper, Maybe even a revenge killer)
Gyrados (DD setup, Physical Sweeper)
Umbreon (Special Wall)
Dragonite (Another Sweeper for coverage)

Thank you!

Maybe Infernape? Alakazam maybe with Magic Guard and LO

[scizor42]

Alright, well im gonna take my first stab at making a competitive team. I dont really have much of an idea about what i want to do, but here are 5 pokemon i though might be a good idea to add. also if you think i should change which pokemon are in my team please suggest that i change them.
Skarmory
Scizor
Alakazam
Jirachi
Chansey

[Soperman]

Alright, well im gonna take my first stab at making a competitive team. I dont really have much of an idea about what i want to do, but here are 5 pokemon i though might be a good idea to add. also if you think i should change which pokemon are in my team please suggest that i change them.
Skarmory
Scizor
Alakazam
Jirachi
Chansey

Big fire weakness. I would suggest Swampert, since he's bulky and can hit hard.
Also, just curious, but do you know about EVs and items and such?

[JoshuaMunoz]

I'd use Suicune as it covers up a few weaknesses the team has, is the beginning of a defensive wall, and completes the F/W/G core.

Suicune @ Leftovers.
252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Bold Nature
- Scald
- Calm Mind
- Rest
- Sleep Talk

Ok, i would use this. But do you know anything that can hit Dusclops And Suicune hard? ive got into a lot of trouble with them in some PO matches..

[That Crazy Russian™]

guess im not getting anymore advice for my team ~.~

[Serpentine]

Ok, i would use this. But do you know anything that can hit Dusclops And Suicune hard? ive got into a lot of trouble with them in some PO matches..

Gengar. High Speed. High Sp Atk. Then STAB Shadow Ball for Dusclops and Thunder/Thunderbolt for Suicune as well as Energy Ball. Only problem Dusclops tends to have Sassy and use TR and a Gengar won't be able to kill Dusclops with just one Shadow Ball. On the bright side if you and Suicune are both maxed out on speed you are faster than Suicune.
Alakazam for the same reasons. Only this one isn't affected by the Will-O-Wisp. It can only take four Night Shades though. But that's the same as Gengar.
Reuniclus works too. Much more bulky. Unaffected by Will-O-Wisp. Can Learn Night Shade and can learn Electric and grass moves.
Something with Knock Off and some kind of Grass/Electric move. Maybe something with Trick or Switcheroo with a Grass/Electric move that benefits from Eviolite?

what ev spread would you suggest on tomb? ( i assume it was about my team)

also, edit on magmortar: flare blitz> hp grass.

ps: without sweeping tomb, i have ho SpA sweepers. id rather use my personal set, tbh. surprise value, you know?

Standard Walling IVs usually for Spiritomb. But since you're using a special sweeper ((I don't know why...)) I'd go with max HP, max Sp Atk, then add 4 to either defense.
I don't know about the Magmortar thing... Its SpAtk is much better than its Atk. Plus. Flamethrower/Fire Blasti s much better than Flare Blitz since there's no recoil and it can be stronger due to the Sp Atk boost. Besides, you'd ahve another specail sweeper.

Alright, well im gonna take my first stab at making a competitive team. I dont really have much of an idea about what i want to do, but here are 5 pokemon i though might be a good idea to add. also if you think i should change which pokemon are in my team please suggest that i change them.
Skarmory
Scizor
Alakazam
Jirachi
Chansey

Problems with this team... MAJOR WEAKNESS TO FIRE! Three steel types? Not good. If you're going for the U-Turn team you could replace Jirachi for like... Rotom-Washing Machine. It's predictable, yet it's so very good. It also might help if we have movesets and Items and other thigns...

[AlexandriaTheMixed]

Gengar. High Speed. High Sp Atk. Then STAB Shadow Ball for Dusclops and Thunder/Thunderbolt for Suicune as well as Energy Ball. Only problem Dusclops tends to have Sassy and use TR and a Gengar won't be able to kill Dusclops with just one Shadow Ball. On the bright side if you and Suicune are both maxed out on speed you are faster than Suicune.
Alakazam for the same reasons. Only this one isn't affected by the Will-O-Wisp. It can only take four Night Shades though. But that's the same as Gengar.
Reuniclus works too. Much more bulky. Unaffected by Will-O-Wisp. Can Learn Night Shade and can learn Electric and grass moves.
Something with Knock Off and some kind of Grass/Electric move. Maybe something with Trick or Switcheroo with a Grass/Electric move that benefits from Eviolite?

You fail to realize it's UU, and Gengar is OU. Suicune almost never runs speed either.

Raikou @ Leftovers
128 HP / 76 Def / 52 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature.
~ Substitute
~ Calm Mind
~ Thunderbolt
~ Hidden Power Ice

Sets up on Suicune, and has a nice Special Attack. Dusclops will be able to be handled by Flare Blitz from Dusclops. While it won't 1HKO, because almost nothing does on Dusclops, it can hit it repeatedly since Duscy can't do much in return.

[JoshuaMunoz]

Raikou @ Leftovers
128 HP / 76 Def / 52 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature.
~ Substitute
~ Calm Mind
~ Thunderbolt
~ Hidden Power Ice
Sets up on Suicune, and has a nice Special Attack. Dusclops will be able to be handled by Flare Blitz from Dusclops. While it won't 1HKO, because almost nothing does on Dusclops, it can hit it repeatedly since Duscy can't do much in return.

OK, i used a Raikou once, but it didnt do as much as i expected. But that was a different Raikou, now i can try to test this out, thanks

[AlexandriaTheMixed]

OK, i used a Raikou once, but it didnt do as much as i expected. But that was a different Raikou, now i can try to test this out, thanks

Bring it in on low hitting defensive walls. Sub, set up, and sweep with HiddenBolt.

[snivy trainer]

I've changed Magnezone for:

Skarmory@ Leftovers
Impish | Sturdy
252 HP / 230 Def / 26 Spe
~Spikes
~Whirlwind
~Roost
~Brave Bird
That gets rid of my Fighting weakness, and gives me Spikes so Latios and Scizor and Conkeldurr can get sweeps. I might make another, better team. Around Latios of course.

Latios@ Life Orb
Timid | Levitate
252 SpA / 252 Spe / 4 HP

[AlexandriaTheMixed]

I've changed Magnezone for:

Skarmory@ Leftovers
Impish | Sturdy
252 HP / 230 Def / 26 Spe
~Spikes
~Whirlwind
~Roost
~Brave Bird
That gets rid of my Fighting weakness, and gives me Spikes so Latios and Scizor and Conkeldurr can get sweeps. I might make another, better team. Around Latios of course.

Latios@ Life Orb
Timid | Levitate
252 SpA / 252 Spe / 4 HP

Skarmory still doesn't resist fighting. So you still have one. Just not x2 effective.

Latios @ Choice Specs HP Fire, Draco, Psyshock, Surf.
Keep the current nature/ev's.

[snivy trainer]

Fair enough. I'll try it.

[AlexandriaTheMixed]

Fair enough. I'll try it.

It's been a few days. Any feedback?

[Vandslaux]

New stall team (as well as my favorite playstyle), need changes if any and a last member. Cursed Body on Jellicent is to force switches, inflcting more Spikes damage.

Jellicent (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Cursed Body
EVs: 248 HP / 208 Def / 52 Spd
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Scald
- Will-O-Wisp
- Recover
- Taunt

Scizor (F) @ Choice Band
Trait: Technician
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- U-turn
- Bullet Punch
- Superpower
- Pursuit

Skarmory (M) @ Shed Shell
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Whirlwind
- Roost
- Spikes
- Brave Bird

Blissey (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Wish
- Protect
- Seismic Toss
- Toxic

Tentacruel (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Rain Dish
EVs: 236 HP / 252 Def / 20 Spd
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Toxic Spikes
- Rapid Spin
- Scald
- Protect

I was thinking a sweeper of some sort to abuse the Spikes, possibly Rock Polish LO Terrakion, which demolishes Sand? Though I noticed this team can't really do much of anything to Skarm, so maybe Jolteon? IDK if Tentacruel's really necessary to this team. But then, I don't have Toxic Spikes, and can't really kill anything. And no, I'm not using SkarmBliss just because.. well, because. They fight weather really well.

[Spirtomb2247]

Can anybody help me because I need 1 more pokemon toe add toe my pokemon black team
current team :
Politoed
Drizzel
moves:hydro pump,ice beam,surf,perish song

Munin
minus
thunder,agility,nast plot,baton pass

spiritomb
preusure
shadow ball,psychic,darkpulse,will o wisp

ninetales
drough
flamethrower,overheat,confuse ray,solarbeam

leafeon
leaf guard
solarbeam,toxic,leaf blade,-
some help and sugestions will be much apreciated

[Soperman]

^ never have a pokemon who works best in the sun on a rain team. Also, Plusle is sorely outclassed by Jolteon. Finally, look up EVs and natures for pokemon; they improve stats drastically.

New stall team (as well as my favorite playstyle), need changes if any and a last member. Cursed Body on Jellicent is to force switches, inflcting more Spikes damage.

Jellicent (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Cursed Body
EVs: 248 HP / 208 Def / 52 Spd
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Scald
- Will-O-Wisp
- Recover
- Taunt

Scizor (F) @ Choice Band
Trait: Technician
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- U-turn
- Bullet Punch
- Superpower
- Pursuit

Skarmory (M) @ Shed Shell
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Whirlwind
- Roost
- Spikes
- Brave Bird

Blissey (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Wish
- Protect
- Seismic Toss
- Toxic

Tentacruel (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Rain Dish
EVs: 236 HP / 252 Def / 20 Spd
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Toxic Spikes
- Rapid Spin
- Scald
- Protect

I was thinking a sweeper of some sort to abuse the Spikes, possibly Rock Polish LO Terrakion, which demolishes Sand? Though I noticed this team can't really do much of anything to Skarm, so maybe Jolteon? IDK if Tentacruel's really necessary to this team. But then, I don't have Toxic Spikes, and can't really kill anything. And no, I'm not using SkarmBliss just because.. well, because. They fight weather really well.

Ferrothorn:
Ferrothorn @ Leftovers
Sassy
252 Hp/196 Sp. Def/60 Def
Stealth Rock
Leech Seed
Protect
Power Whip/Gyro Ball
Stalling Ferrothorn. EVs for Bulk, and as you have mostly pokemon with high Defense, he has mostly Sp. Def. SR is for even more hazards, Leech Seed forces switches/heals you, Protect is obvious, and Gyro Ball/Power Whip so you aren't Taunt bait.

[Serpentine]

Can anybody help me because I need 1 more pokemon toe add toe my pokemon black team
current team :
Politoed
Drizzel
moves:hydro pump,ice beam,surf,perish song

Munin
minus
thunder,agility,nast plot,baton pass

spiritomb
preusure
shadow ball,psychic,darkpulse,will o wisp

ninetales
drough
flamethrower,overheat,confuse ray,solarbeam

leafeon
leaf guard
solarbeam,toxic,leaf blade,-
some help and sugestions will be much apreciated

First, you're saying toe as in the thing attatched to your foot. Not to....
Second, It's Minun. Not Munin....
Third, you can't get these Pokemon until much later in the game.
Four, you have two different weather starters on the same team. There's no point in doing so. Either focus on one or the other.
Five... What's with Spiritomb? It doesn't work with either of them... It's just there...
six.... You could replace the Drizzletoed and Minun and Spiritomb with something or Spiritomb, Ninetales and Leafeon with something...
Ferrothorn's good for Rain. As well as something with Swift Swim. Then for Fire I guess a Pokemon like Chandelure or somethigh with Chlorophll... Sadly, most of them are counter productive. Sawsbuck maybe... Then there's always Volcarona which is fun.
That's it for me...

Jellicent (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Cursed Body
EVs: 248 HP / 208 Def / 52 Spd
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Scald
- Will-O-Wisp
- Recover
- Taunt

Scizor (F) @ Choice Band
Trait: Technician
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- U-turn
- Bullet Punch
- Superpower
- Pursuit

Skarmory (M) @ Shed Shell
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Whirlwind
- Roost
- Spikes
- Brave Bird

Blissey (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Wish
- Protect
- Seismic Toss
- Toxic

Tentacruel (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Rain Dish
EVs: 236 HP / 252 Def / 20 Spd
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Toxic Spikes
- Rapid Spin
- Scald
- Protect

I kind of think Toxic Spikes is redundant if you have a Blissey with Toxic. I understand Blissey can die, but she's bulky... And besides, it's much faster and easier to use Toxic isntead of set up two layers of Toxic Spikes. I think your team could benefit from a Drizzletoed. You have Tentacruel with Rain Dish yet no Rain Dance on your team? It could also help with Scizor's x4 and Skarm's fire weakness. However, a lot of your team would suffer from Thunder abuse, however, most people go with T-bolt to avoid the possible hax and usually only pack it if they're using a rain team as well. A stealth Rock abuser that would be good could be Forretress. It'll get at least something up if it's used on the first turn and isn't targetted by both Pokemon in a double battle or all three in a triple due to Sturdy. Can't really abuse Stealth Rock though...
Aggron, Crustle, Tyranitar, Pawniard can all abuse Rocks and Polish. Crustle can even Shell Smash which is a little better.

[Magicmonkey]

New stall team (as well as my favorite playstyle), need changes if any and a last member. Cursed Body on Jellicent is to force switches, inflcting more Spikes damage.

Jellicent (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Cursed Body
EVs: 248 HP / 208 Def / 52 Spd
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Scald
- Will-O-Wisp
- Recover
- Taunt

Scizor (F) @ Choice Band
Trait: Technician
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- U-turn
- Bullet Punch
- Superpower
- Pursuit

Skarmory (M) @ Shed Shell
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Whirlwind
- Roost
- Spikes
- Brave Bird

Blissey (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Wish
- Protect
- Seismic Toss
- Toxic

Tentacruel (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Rain Dish
EVs: 236 HP / 252 Def / 20 Spd
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Toxic Spikes
- Rapid Spin
- Scald
- Protect

I was thinking a sweeper of some sort to abuse the Spikes, possibly Rock Polish LO Terrakion, which demolishes Sand? Though I noticed this team can't really do much of anything to Skarm, so maybe Jolteon? IDK if Tentacruel's really necessary to this team. But then, I don't have Toxic Spikes, and can't really kill anything. And no, I'm not using SkarmBliss just because.. well, because. They fight weather really well.

In my expreince phaze teams do not work without stealth rock. a large portion of the game is flying/levitating+balloons, so spikes 8s less feared. dragonites and rotom-w's still take something from rocks at least.