Team Building Help Thread

[Vandslaux]

New stall team (as well as my favorite playstyle), need changes if any and a last member. Cursed Body on Jellicent is to force switches, inflcting more Spikes damage.

Jellicent (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Cursed Body
EVs: 248 HP / 208 Def / 52 Spd
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Scald
- Will-O-Wisp
- Recover
- Taunt

Scizor (F) @ Choice Band
Trait: Technician
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- U-turn
- Bullet Punch
- Superpower
- Pursuit

Skarmory (M) @ Shed Shell
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Whirlwind
- Roost
- Spikes
- Brave Bird

Blissey (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Wish
- Protect
- Seismic Toss
- Toxic

Tentacruel (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Rain Dish
EVs: 236 HP / 252 Def / 20 Spd
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Toxic Spikes
- Rapid Spin
- Scald
- Protect

I was thinking a sweeper of some sort to abuse the Spikes, possibly Rock Polish LO Terrakion, which demolishes Sand? Though I noticed this team can't really do much of anything to Skarm, so maybe Jolteon? IDK if Tentacruel's really necessary to this team. But then, I don't have Toxic Spikes, and can't really kill anything. And no, I'm not using SkarmBliss just because.. well, because. They fight weather really well.

[Spirtomb2247]

Can anybody help me because I need 1 more pokemon toe add toe my pokemon black team
current team :
Politoed
Drizzel
moves:hydro pump,ice beam,surf,perish song

Munin
minus
thunder,agility,nast plot,baton pass

spiritomb
preusure
shadow ball,psychic,darkpulse,will o wisp

ninetales
drough
flamethrower,overheat,confuse ray,solarbeam

leafeon
leaf guard
solarbeam,toxic,leaf blade,-
some help and sugestions will be much apreciated

[Soperman]

^ never have a pokemon who works best in the sun on a rain team. Also, Plusle is sorely outclassed by Jolteon. Finally, look up EVs and natures for pokemon; they improve stats drastically.

New stall team (as well as my favorite playstyle), need changes if any and a last member. Cursed Body on Jellicent is to force switches, inflcting more Spikes damage.

Jellicent (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Cursed Body
EVs: 248 HP / 208 Def / 52 Spd
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Scald
- Will-O-Wisp
- Recover
- Taunt

Scizor (F) @ Choice Band
Trait: Technician
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- U-turn
- Bullet Punch
- Superpower
- Pursuit

Skarmory (M) @ Shed Shell
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Whirlwind
- Roost
- Spikes
- Brave Bird

Blissey (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Wish
- Protect
- Seismic Toss
- Toxic

Tentacruel (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Rain Dish
EVs: 236 HP / 252 Def / 20 Spd
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Toxic Spikes
- Rapid Spin
- Scald
- Protect

I was thinking a sweeper of some sort to abuse the Spikes, possibly Rock Polish LO Terrakion, which demolishes Sand? Though I noticed this team can't really do much of anything to Skarm, so maybe Jolteon? IDK if Tentacruel's really necessary to this team. But then, I don't have Toxic Spikes, and can't really kill anything. And no, I'm not using SkarmBliss just because.. well, because. They fight weather really well.

Ferrothorn:
Ferrothorn @ Leftovers
Sassy
252 Hp/196 Sp. Def/60 Def
Stealth Rock
Leech Seed
Protect
Power Whip/Gyro Ball
Stalling Ferrothorn. EVs for Bulk, and as you have mostly pokemon with high Defense, he has mostly Sp. Def. SR is for even more hazards, Leech Seed forces switches/heals you, Protect is obvious, and Gyro Ball/Power Whip so you aren't Taunt bait.

[Serpentine]

Can anybody help me because I need 1 more pokemon toe add toe my pokemon black team
current team :
Politoed
Drizzel
moves:hydro pump,ice beam,surf,perish song

Munin
minus
thunder,agility,nast plot,baton pass

spiritomb
preusure
shadow ball,psychic,darkpulse,will o wisp

ninetales
drough
flamethrower,overheat,confuse ray,solarbeam

leafeon
leaf guard
solarbeam,toxic,leaf blade,-
some help and sugestions will be much apreciated

First, you're saying toe as in the thing attatched to your foot. Not to....
Second, It's Minun. Not Munin....
Third, you can't get these Pokemon until much later in the game.
Four, you have two different weather starters on the same team. There's no point in doing so. Either focus on one or the other.
Five... What's with Spiritomb? It doesn't work with either of them... It's just there...
six.... You could replace the Drizzletoed and Minun and Spiritomb with something or Spiritomb, Ninetales and Leafeon with something...
Ferrothorn's good for Rain. As well as something with Swift Swim. Then for Fire I guess a Pokemon like Chandelure or somethigh with Chlorophll... Sadly, most of them are counter productive. Sawsbuck maybe... Then there's always Volcarona which is fun.
That's it for me...

Jellicent (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Cursed Body
EVs: 248 HP / 208 Def / 52 Spd
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Scald
- Will-O-Wisp
- Recover
- Taunt

Scizor (F) @ Choice Band
Trait: Technician
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- U-turn
- Bullet Punch
- Superpower
- Pursuit

Skarmory (M) @ Shed Shell
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Whirlwind
- Roost
- Spikes
- Brave Bird

Blissey (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Wish
- Protect
- Seismic Toss
- Toxic

Tentacruel (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Rain Dish
EVs: 236 HP / 252 Def / 20 Spd
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Toxic Spikes
- Rapid Spin
- Scald
- Protect

I kind of think Toxic Spikes is redundant if you have a Blissey with Toxic. I understand Blissey can die, but she's bulky... And besides, it's much faster and easier to use Toxic isntead of set up two layers of Toxic Spikes. I think your team could benefit from a Drizzletoed. You have Tentacruel with Rain Dish yet no Rain Dance on your team? It could also help with Scizor's x4 and Skarm's fire weakness. However, a lot of your team would suffer from Thunder abuse, however, most people go with T-bolt to avoid the possible hax and usually only pack it if they're using a rain team as well. A stealth Rock abuser that would be good could be Forretress. It'll get at least something up if it's used on the first turn and isn't targetted by both Pokemon in a double battle or all three in a triple due to Sturdy. Can't really abuse Stealth Rock though...
Aggron, Crustle, Tyranitar, Pawniard can all abuse Rocks and Polish. Crustle can even Shell Smash which is a little better.

[Magicmonkey]

New stall team (as well as my favorite playstyle), need changes if any and a last member. Cursed Body on Jellicent is to force switches, inflcting more Spikes damage.

Jellicent (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Cursed Body
EVs: 248 HP / 208 Def / 52 Spd
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Scald
- Will-O-Wisp
- Recover
- Taunt

Scizor (F) @ Choice Band
Trait: Technician
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- U-turn
- Bullet Punch
- Superpower
- Pursuit

Skarmory (M) @ Shed Shell
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Whirlwind
- Roost
- Spikes
- Brave Bird

Blissey (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Wish
- Protect
- Seismic Toss
- Toxic

Tentacruel (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Rain Dish
EVs: 236 HP / 252 Def / 20 Spd
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Toxic Spikes
- Rapid Spin
- Scald
- Protect

I was thinking a sweeper of some sort to abuse the Spikes, possibly Rock Polish LO Terrakion, which demolishes Sand? Though I noticed this team can't really do much of anything to Skarm, so maybe Jolteon? IDK if Tentacruel's really necessary to this team. But then, I don't have Toxic Spikes, and can't really kill anything. And no, I'm not using SkarmBliss just because.. well, because. They fight weather really well.

In my expreince phaze teams do not work without stealth rock. a large portion of the game is flying/levitating+balloons, so spikes 8s less feared. dragonites and rotom-w's still take something from rocks at least.

[snivy trainer]

Right, my OU team is going great. But my clan is doing a weather tournament. I'm Drizzle (again). So I'm going to need help building a team. Again.

Politoed@ Leftovers
Bold | Drizzle
252 HP / 248 Def / 8 SpD
~Scald
~Toxic
~Protect
~Ice Beam/Perish Song

[AlexandriaTheMixed]

Right, my OU team is going great. But my clan is doing a weather tournament. I'm Drizzle (again). So I'm going to need help building a team. Again.

Politoed@ Leftovers
Bold | Drizzle
252 HP / 248 Def / 8 SpD
~Scald
~Toxic
~Protect
~Ice Beam/Perish Song

Tornadus (M) @ Choice Specs
Trait: Prankster
EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Naive Nature (+Spd, -SDef)
- Hurricane
- Focus Blast
- U-turn
- Hammer Arm

Hammer Arm for Bliss. Focus Blast for Magnezone and Heatran.

[snivy trainer]

Thank you! Here is a list of our banned Pokemon:

Groudon
Mewtwo
Mew
Lugia
Ho-Oh
Celebi
Kyogre
Rayquaza
Jirachi
Deoxys
Dialga
Palkia
Giratina
Phione
Manaphy
Darkrai
Shaymin (Land or Sky)
Arceus
Victini
Reshiram
Zekrom
Kyurem


So far:

Politoed@ Leftovers
Bold | Drizzle
252 HP / 248 Def / 8 SpD
~Scald
~Toxic
~Protect
~Perish Song

Tornadus@ Choice Specs
Naive | Prankster
252 SpA / 252 Spe / 4 Atk
~Hurricane
~Focus Blast
~Hammer Arm
~U Turn

[Serpentine]

Thank you! Here is a list of our banned Pokemon:

Groudon
Mewtwo
Mew
Lugia
Ho-Oh
Celebi
Kyogre
Rayquaza
Jirachi
Deoxys
Dialga
Palkia
Giratina
Phione
Manaphy
Darkrai
Shaymin (Land or Sky)
Arceus
Victini
Reshiram
Zekrom
Kyurem


So far:

Politoed@ Leftovers
Bold | Drizzle
252 HP / 248 Def / 8 SpD
~Scald
~Toxic
~Protect
~Perish Song

Tornadus@ Choice Specs
Naive | Prankster
252 SpA / 252 Spe / 4 Atk
~Hurricane
~Focus Blast
~Hammer Arm
~U Turn

Dragonite can abuse Rain a lot!

Dragonite
Multiscale
Timid
4 HP/252 Sp Atk/252 Spd
@Life Orb

Thunder
Dragon Pulse/Aqua Tail
Hurricane
Roost

Both your Hurricane and Thunder get 100% accuracy. Dragon Pulse is for STAB but Aqua Tail gets a boost in the rain. It also helps against Rock Types in a Sandstorm. They get a 50% Sp Def boost in the sand so you're just going to go for their unboosted Defense Stat. Then Roost is for Recovery after your Life Orb deals recoil. It's also useful for avoiding possible Blizzards, Ice Beams, etc.

Then there's always Swft Swimmers. I don't know if you are going by the usual rules or not but I always see a Kingdra and a Ludicolo on a rain team when I did the one wifi tournament. If you want to diversify you could use Pokemon that are x4 weak to fire since their power is weakened during the rain like the ever so useful wall known as Ferrothorn. With Ferrothorn you could also go with Jellicent, another wall. When combined with a Pokemon that can use Surf it becomes a deadly yet slow force.

Ferrothorn
Iron Barbs
Careful/Sassy
252 HP/128 Def/128 Sp Def
Leftovers/Rocky Helmet

Gyro Ball
Power whip
Leech Seed
Spikes

Most Pokemon on weather teams I don't believe fly or float so Spikes is viable. Then there's Leech Seed which is reliable recovery. Gyro Ball is good since you're slow and Power Whip is a powerful STAB

Jellicent
Water Absorb
Bold
252 HP/4 Def/252 Sp Def
Leftovers/Absorb Bulb

Water Spout
Recover
Night Shade
Energy Ball/Will-O-Wisp

Water Spout is a super strong STAB and partnered with someone who can use Surf it's deadly because you can get recovery. If you use the above Dragonite or even the Politoed and pair it up with this Pokemon you can replace Scald and Aqua Tail with Surf. It's stronger than Scald and more reliable than Aqua Tail. Now, I'm not so sure if the Absorb Bulb works if you're hit while you ahve Water Absorb, but if it does work you're just making your Water Spout even better. Recover is also reliable recovery. Night Shade is super powerful and Energy Ball can supply coverage while Will-O-Wisp can force switches or cripple physical sweepers which would threaten your weaker defense.

Another good thing in the rain is the Volt-Turn stradegy. You could have a Choice Band Scizor and a Choice Scarf Rotom-W. Rotom could also have Thunder in case you want to predict they're going to use a fire move and instead hit them with a 180 BP never missing Electric move. Hydro Pump is also an option if they're resistant to Electric moves. Scizor can also be a little different. You could use the other common stradegy with Scizor which is Technician and Priority abuse.

Scizor
Technician
Jolly/Adamant
4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spd
@Choice Band/Flying Gem

Bullet Punch
U-Turn
Double Hit
Acrobatics

The Flying Gem moveset allows more diversity, however, the Choice Band set allows more power.

Rotom-W
Levitate
Timid
4 HP/252 Sp Atk/252 Spd
@Choice Scarf

Hydro Pump
Volt Switch
Thunder
Trick

This set has a lot of potential. Although two electric moves isn't good, but they work so well.

If all of the teams you're going against have something to do with weather, I'd also keep a bug type with a strong Bug-Type move for Abomasnow. You should also keep some kind of Pokemon to take down Ninetales, Hippowdon, and Tyranitar. They're all easily taken care of by water moves and Tyranitar's mroe common than Hippowdown so Ground Moves could work too.

Other Pokemon that could work are Milotic and the Toxic Orb/Flame Orb+Marvel Scale for another wall or you could go with the Hydration+Rest stradegy.

[terrytorterra]

@Serpentine:
No, the bulb doesn't activate with water absorb ability

[Jr Breshears]

Thank you! Here is a list of our banned Pokemon:

Groudon
Mewtwo
Mew
Lugia
Ho-Oh
Celebi
Kyogre
Rayquaza
Jirachi
Deoxys
Dialga
Palkia
Giratina
Phione
Manaphy
Darkrai
Shaymin (Land or Sky)
Arceus
Victini
Reshiram
Zekrom
Kyurem


So far:

Politoed@ Leftovers
Bold | Drizzle
252 HP / 248 Def / 8 SpD
~Scald
~Toxic
~Protect
~Perish Song

Tornadus@ Choice Specs
Naive | Prankster
252 SpA / 252 Spe / 4 Atk
~Hurricane
~Focus Blast
~Hammer Arm
~U Turn

I would change hammer arm to HP ice and add a joteon on that team.

[That Crazy Russian™]

Thank you! Here is a list of our banned Pokemon:

Groudon
Mewtwo
Mew
Lugia
Ho-Oh
Celebi
Kyogre
Rayquaza
Jirachi
Deoxys
Dialga
Palkia
Giratina
Phione
Manaphy
Darkrai
Shaymin (Land or Sky)
Arceus
Victini
Reshiram
Zekrom
Kyurem


So far:

Politoed@ Leftovers
Bold | Drizzle
252 HP / 248 Def / 8 SpD
~Scald
~Toxic
~Protect
~Perish Song

Tornadus@ Choice Specs
Naive | Prankster
252 SpA / 252 Spe / 4 Atk
~Hurricane
~Focus Blast
~Hammer Arm
~U Turn

geez snivy...your always on here, lol!

anyways, heres my favorite set ever of a pokemon i use on drizzle teams. a great threatkiller.

jirachi @expert belt
naive
252 atk/ 4 SpA/ 252 spe
- thunder
- ice punch
- iron head
- draco meteor/ psychic/ filler.

[That Crazy Russian™]

New stall team (as well as my favorite playstyle), need changes if any and a last member. Cursed Body on Jellicent is to force switches, inflcting more Spikes damage.

Jellicent (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Cursed Body
EVs: 248 HP / 208 Def / 52 Spd
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Scald
- Will-O-Wisp
- Recover
- Taunt

Scizor (F) @ Choice Band
Trait: Technician
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- U-turn
- Bullet Punch
- Superpower
- Pursuit

Skarmory (M) @ Shed Shell
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Whirlwind
- Roost
- Spikes
- Brave Bird

Blissey (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Wish
- Protect
- Seismic Toss
- Toxic

Tentacruel (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Rain Dish
EVs: 236 HP / 252 Def / 20 Spd
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Toxic Spikes
- Rapid Spin
- Scald
- Protect

I was thinking a sweeper of some sort to abuse the Spikes, possibly Rock Polish LO Terrakion, which demolishes Sand? Though I noticed this team can't really do much of anything to Skarm, so maybe Jolteon? IDK if Tentacruel's really necessary to this team. But then, I don't have Toxic Spikes, and can't really kill anything. And no, I'm not using SkarmBliss just because.. well, because. They fight weather really well.

stall happens to be my new favorite too! anyway, you only have one phazer, and its weak to special attacks. to remedy this, i suggest umbreon, the same one i posted in my rmt. check it out. umbreon has good synergy with this team, taking psychic attacks aimed at tentacruel, dark at jelli, and the rest of the team covering its weaknesses. itll leave you more special defensively oriented though.

[snivy trainer]

Right, hold on! I was kind of thinking Tornadus as Modest/Timid with HP Ice, but Hammer Arm I think works better to smash Blissey and Chansey. I'm doing homework right now, so I'll update later.

[That Crazy Russian™]

Dragonite can abuse Rain a lot!

Dragonite
Multiscale
Timid
4 HP/252 Sp Atk/252 Spd
@Life Orb

Thunder
Dragon Pulse/Aqua Tail
Hurricane
Roost

Both your Hurricane and Thunder get 100% accuracy. Dragon Pulse is for STAB but Aqua Tail gets a boost in the rain. It also helps against Rock Types in a Sandstorm. They get a 50% Sp Def boost in the sand so you're just going to go for their unboosted Defense Stat. Then Roost is for Recovery after your Life Orb deals recoil. It's also useful for avoiding possible Blizzards, Ice Beams, etc

never use multiscale and life orb. its useless. leftovers is a much better item.

Another good thing in the rain is the Volt-Turn stradegy. You could have a Choice Band Scizor and a Choice Scarf Rotom-W. Rotom could also have Thunder in case you want to predict they're going to use a fire move and instead hit them with a 180 BP never missing Electric move. Hydro Pump is also an option if they're resistant to Electric moves. Scizor can also be a little different. You could use the other common stradegy with Scizor which is Technician and Priority abuse.

Scizor
Technician
Jolly/Adamant
4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spd
@Choice Band/Flying Gem

Bullet Punch
U-Turn
Double Hit
Acrobatics

The Flying Gem moveset allows more diversity, however, the Choice Band set allows more power.

i really like this set. very unique. that flying gem....linteresting....

[snivy trainer]

Volt-Turn I'm not too interested in. Dragonite seems intersting:

Dragonite@ Leftovers
Rash | Multiscale
200 SpA / 200 Atk / 108 HP
~Hurricane
~Dragon Tail/Outrage
~Thunder Wave/Thunder
~Earthquake

[AlexandriaTheMixed]

I would change hammer arm to HP ice and add a joteon on that team.

Nope. What is the point of HP Ice? To hit Mence/Dnite for x4 damage? That's the only benefit I see. Gliscor will fall to Specs Hurricane, and Hurricane hits harder than x2 HP ice. Mence will fall to a Hurricane, and Hurricane is a 2KO on Dnite, just like HP Ice would be.

Volt-Turn I'm not too interested in. Dragonite seems intersting:

Dragonite@ Leftovers
Rash | Multiscale
200 SpA / 200 Atk / 108 HP
~Hurricane
~Dragon Tail/Outrage
~Thunder Wave/Thunder
~Earthquake

I don't see where you're going with this Dnite.

[Serpentine]

never use multiscale and life orb. its useless. leftovers is a much better item.

Well I wanted the SpAtk Boost but still having versatility. I guess Lefties is best, but do you think, although it's not used often, Wiseglasses would work?

[Jr Breshears]

and Im pretty sure hammer arm wont KO blissey anyways.

[That Crazy Russian™]

and Im pretty sure hammer arm wont KO blissey anyways.

are you kidding me? just about any physical attack has the potential to ko blissey. hammer arm being se, can ohko. it has the potential.