Team Building Help Thread

[NoteLobo]

Ok cool. Just don't want to be trading out illegal hacks on accident. Anyways while testing my team I decided a good spinner but the usual ones aren't working to well (Donphan, Starmie, and Tenta) any suggestions?

[That Crazy Russian™]

tentacruel is your best spinner, being able to take care of all spinblockers.

[ventus011]

Here is my Team for Double or Single Battles

Meatagross@Choice Band
Ability- Clear Body
Evs- 252- Attack 252-Sp. Defense
Earthquake
Bullet Punch
Meteor Mash
Zen Headbutt

Smeargle@ Quick Claw
Ability- Own Tempo
Evs- 252 Speed
Dark Void/ Spore
Cosmic Power
Nasty Plot/ Swords Dance
Baton Pass

Zapdos@???
Ability- Pressure
EVs 252 Sp. Attack 252 Speed
Tailwind
Light Screen
Thunder
???
Blissy@ Leftovers
Ability - Natural Cure
EVs 252 Hp 252 Defense 8 Sp. Defense
Ice Beam
Sweet Kiss
Softboiled
Heal Pulse/ Seismic Toss

Alakazam@ Choice Specs
Ability- Magic Guard
Evs 252Sp. Attack 252 Speed
Trick
Psyshock
Shadow Ball
Pyschic

[Ilan]

Here is my Team for Double or Single Battles

Meatagross@Choice Band
Ability- Clear Body
Evs- 252- Attack 252-Sp. Defense
Earthquake
Bullet Punch
Meteor Mash
Zen Headbutt

Smeargle@ Quick Claw
Ability- Own Tempo
Evs- 252 Speed
Dark Void/ Spore
Cosmic Power
Nasty Plot/ Swords Dance
Baton Pass

Zapdos@???
Ability- Pressure
EVs 252 Sp. Attack 252 Speed
Tailwind
Light Screen
Thunder
???
Blissy@ Leftovers
Ability - Natural Cure
EVs 252 Hp 252 Defense 8 Sp. Defense
Ice Beam
Sweet Kiss
Softboiled
Heal Pulse/ Seismic Toss

Alakazam@ Choice Specs
Ability- Magic Guard
Evs 252Sp. Attack 252 Speed
Trick
Psyshock
Shadow Ball
Pyschic

don't use walls on doubles, cause doubles is an offensive metagame some sets are a mess to correct them right I need to know singles or doubles.

[ventus011]

I was thinking using the team for both singles and doublss since my leauge and the pokemon video game tournement (at least last time) was doubles but I perfer single battles. Also this team is OU.

[WallaceX]

Hi! Can you rate my team? They are IV trained. Here:

Salamence: sweeper
item: expert belt
nature: lonely
ability: moxie (DW)
- dragon claw
- brick break
- rock slide
- earthquake

Milotic: normal
item: splash plate (gives scald surf power and a burn probability)
nature: timid
ability: marvel scale
- safeguard
- recover
- scald
- ice beam or blizzard?

Chandelure: sweeper
item: flame plate
nature: modest
ability: flame body
- psichic
- shadow ball
- heat wave
- energy ball

Conkeldurr: sweeper
item: quick claw
nature: serious
ability: sheer force (gives rock slide stone edge power plus accuracy)
- mach punch
- drain punch
- rock slide
- bulk up

Serperior: wall
item: sirius berry
nature: careful
ability: overgrow
- light screen
- reflect
- toxic
- taunt or hidden power (ice)?

Stoutland: troublesome (i don't know how but this one resists to everything! even a superpower from conkeldurr...)
item: rocky helmet
nature: naive
ability: sand rush
- toxic
- thunder wave
- attract
- giga impact

__________
i was thinking about putting a hippodown with sand stream so that stoutland would sweep:
Stoutland: sweeper (i don't know how but this one resists to everything! even a superpower from conkeldurr...)
item: choice band
nature: naive
ability: sand rush
- return (he really loves me)
- giga impact
- wild charge
- crunch

what do you think?

[Ilan]

I was thinking using the team for both singles and doublss since my leauge and the pokemon video game tournement (at least last time) was doubles but I perfer single battles. Also this team is OU.

If you want to do that you can never have a good team since doubles and singles are like 2 different games one can be more stallish the other is full offense you can't use the same team for both since you will lose some good moves for the two of the pay styles.. putting protect on everything on singles is useless and putting rock slide>stone edge too.. so decide singles or doubles.

@above: it seems like a story team (serperior) they are clearly don't EV trained..

[ventus011]

Ok then its for double team fights.

[Ilan]

Ok then blissey doesn't work too well in doubles because it is a wall on zapdos and metagross you need to put them toghether in the first 2 slots cause of earthquake thunderbolt>thunder cause you hvae no rain HP ice> light screen and put protect or heatwave ib the last slot with preferance to heat wave, on metagross 252 Hp or 252 speed- your choice.
I think that alakazam is too frail for doubes maybe use rotom-W instead put focus sash> quick claw on smearglecause a certainity> a chance I don't think baton pass work well in doubles but you have dark void so IDK, it is for VGC? cause if you don't have anything better use as default lum berry or leftovers.

[Ghosts of the Forums]

Hi! Can you rate my team? They are IV trained. Here:

Salamence: sweeper
item: expert belt
nature: lonely
ability: moxie (DW)
- dragon claw
- brick break
- rock slide
- earthquake

Milotic: normal
item: splash plate (gives scald surf power and a burn probability)
nature: timid
ability: marvel scale
- safeguard
- recover
- scald
- ice beam or blizzard?

Chandelure: sweeper
item: flame plate
nature: modest
ability: flame body
- psichic
- shadow ball
- heat wave
- energy ball

Conkeldurr: sweeper
item: quick claw
nature: serious
ability: sheer force (gives rock slide stone edge power plus accuracy)
- mach punch
- drain punch
- rock slide
- bulk up

Serperior: wall
item: sirius berry
nature: careful
ability: overgrow
- light screen
- reflect
- toxic
- taunt or hidden power (ice)?

Stoutland: troublesome (i don't know how but this one resists to everything! even a superpower from conkeldurr...)
item: rocky helmet
nature: naive
ability: sand rush
- toxic
- thunder wave
- attract
- giga impact

__________
i was thinking about putting a hippodown with sand stream so that stoutland would sweep:
Stoutland: sweeper (i don't know how but this one resists to everything! even a superpower from conkeldurr...)
item: choice band
nature: naive
ability: sand rush
- return (he really loves me)
- giga impact
- wild charge
- crunch

what do you think?

welcome to serebii, wallace, but you've caught me in a very bad mood so there's no way i'm going lightly on this

first off, your desriptions of items/abilities are dead off. scald is a power 80 special water type attack with a 30% burn chance, your item has nothing to do with it, it just boost scald's power by 20%

stone has 80 accuracy, and there is no way you can increase that unless you are holding a wide/zoom lens or your ability is compundeyes. and, since stone edge has no secondary effect (high crit does not count), its power is NOT boosted by sheer force.

i can't even BEGIN to desribe the quality of your team, i predict you have had NO prior competitive battling experience at ALL.

lastly, this deserves its own thread, as it is an entire team and not a core/pokemon that needs to have a team built around this.

and it would be a lot easier to rate your team if you added ev's.

i hope my advice does not make you think of me as a jerk, but i'm pointing out what i can see.

good luck with your team,

GOTF, out.

[Eaglehawk]

welcome to serebii, wallace, but you've caught me in a very bad mood so there's no way i'm going lightly on this

first off, your desriptions of items/abilities are dead off. scald is a power 80 special water type attack with a 30% burn chance, your item has nothing to do with it, it just boost scald's power by 20%

stone has 80 accuracy, and there is no way you can increase that unless you are holding a wide/zoom lens or your ability is compundeyes. and, since stone edge has no secondary effect (high crit does not count), its power is NOT boosted by sheer force.

i can't even BEGIN to desribe the quality of your team, i predict you have had NO prior competitive battling experience at ALL.

lastly, this deserves its own thread, as it is an entire team and not a core/pokemon that needs to have a team built around this.

and it would be a lot easier to rate your team if you added ev's.

i hope my advice does not make you think of me as a jerk, but i'm pointing out what i can see.

good luck with your team,

GOTF, out.

GOTF? Get out the Frick?
Pretty cocky to me. This thread is meant to help beginners, so don't go GOTFing beginners and being all harsha on them, even in a bad mood. At least he knows how to actually post stuff in the right format.

Anyway, unless you really are a beginner to competitive, I think you got to the wrong forums. The site has a section dedicated for in-game teams.

If you are going into competitive, I suggest reading up on some stuff.
http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3465355
This page has everything for beginners in the first post, so read up on it and learn the metagame a bit. Unfortunately, the team you posted, if rated or fixed, would need a massive overhaul on every single member, so once you fixed it up, come back and post the improved version of the team, and we'll gladly rate/help/fix the team.

[Styxa]

Here. Thanks in Advance. Sorry if it didn't turn out right, new to forums in general.

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Hey guys, I'm looking for some pokes to help complete out my team in the NU tier. I'm a really big fan of gimmicky sets and I don't mind losing with them as long as I'm having fun. So the team I want to make is a phase out team with the whole sha-bam. What i need is a rocker/spinner (somewhat) and a blocker (highly) that will work with these three. This is what i have so far.



Glalie @Focus Sash @Jolly @Inner Focus
252 spd, 252 atk, 4 Sp Def
-Taunt
-Spikes
-Ice Fang
-Explosion

Reason: Glalie is the fastest user of spikes in the entire tier. Pretty much just get up as many spikes as possible before either dying or exploding all over them.




Lopunny @Focus Sash @Jolly @Limber
252 spd, 252 Sp Def/HP, 4 HP/Sp Def
-Copy Cat
-Circle Throw
-T-Punch
-I-Punch

Reason: The epiphany of gimmicky sets. Based with mediocre defenses (65/84/96 respectively) and a great base speed stat of 105, combined with the dream world ability of Limber, Lopunny makes this set work somewhat. Essentially, what you want to do is take a hit and circle throw them out (hence the sash), followed by a copy cat the next turn (providing they have no priority or scarfers left). This will allow you to have an above natural speed Circle throw while racking up that spike and Stealth rock damage.



Altaria @Leftovers @Calm @Natural Cure
252 Hp, 252 Sp Atk, 4 Sp Def
-Draco Meteor
-Roost
-Heal Bell/Roar
-Power Swap

Reason: With some good defenses, Altaria can take a majority of special type moves barring ice beam. But heres the catch. Switch into something that you can wall, then flip off a Draco Meteor. Continue to do it, assuming that they can't do too much, then eventually power swap. Hard to use, but funny when it works. Roar is there if you think that phasing out more is better than getting rid of status.
 

[Ghosts of the Forums]

hey buddy, those are my initials. can't you read?

@stxa, lopunny is better abused by using klutz and switcheroo to give your opponent a choice scarf or other harmful item, and don't use explosion, it was nerfed this gen.

[Styxa]

@Ghost of the Forums Its gimmicky, thats the whole point.

[Ghosts of the Forums]

are you trying to run a gimmick, or screw yourself? explosion is bad unless you have normal gem.

[Styxa]

Regardless, it still hits hard, and as a suicide spike lead it works just as fine

[Eaglehawk]

@ghost: oh lol. did not realize that. Sorry.

@Styxa: Anyway, as Ghost said, don't use Explosion. It has crap power, especially without STAB and the nerf. It's not going to kill anything unless they're ridiculously fragile. You're better off running Crunch or some decent Utility move (I believe it gets T-Wave, correct me if I'm wrong).

[That Crazy Russian™]

@Ghost of the Forums Its gimmicky, thats the whole point.

all i have to say is, gimmicky =/= good.

[Exeggudork]

hi. I need a water type for my team and i want one of the three choices
Simipour,lapras,or kingdra

Simipour's planned moveset:
-Shadow claw
-ice beam
-scald
-acrobatics

I like simipour because of his access to several types of moves, but his stats aren't that great.

Kingdra
-dragonbreath
-scald
-ice beam
-yawn

Kingdra has three resistances and only one weakness, but i don't like his movepool. i have a charizard that has dragon claw which will handle dragon type pokemon.
Kingdra's movepool is sort of shallow in my opinion

lapras
-Ice beam
-surf
-Psychic
-thunderbolt

I like lapras because it has access to many move types but it has 4 weaknesses.althought it's stats are better than simipour's. also, lapras receives STAB from both ice beam and surf.

i really need advice. please help.

[Jr Breshears]

Is this for competetive? If so use a sub DD Kingdra set. If its for in game Lapras as that moveset is better.