Atheist & Agnostic Family

[Darato]

Welcome back friend.

So about two-three days late depending on where you live, but anyways.

Any thought on 11 years of September 11th?

For me, didn't really think anything of it, till today when I needed to take a lunch order to a oil refinerie my company takes to all the the time, and today instead of just showing ID and getting a badge needing to wait for a while, and instead of one guard there were three.

L.F.D.

[Pokemon Geek]

Its quite a long time ago now. For me as a Norwegian though it was just another normal day. I can understand its diffrent for Americans though.

[Profesco]

I wasn't personally affected, but the loss of life and loved ones is jarring and tragic just as much.

On a related note, I wish the atheists pursuing legal action against there being a crossbeam on site at the new tower would get over it. I'm sure many of those who died that day, as well as their families, draw support from Christian iconography; their having a symbol of remembrance in accord with their beliefs does not preclude non-Christians from visiting the site and drawing support from anything else there (or not there). There are so many important disagreements and examples of religious privilege in the country with actual and serious consequences in terms of education and peace that need the attention of a secular activist organization. This crossbeam issue just doesn't count. It's a waste of time, and to the detriment of the secular public image at that.

[Elysian]

Oh, have something happened?
Hey, Geek. You from Norway?

[GhostAnime]

I had no idea there was a new club here. Damn.

[Drake Pokétrainer]

Hah, sorry that I didn't post any more. Exams, work and other stuff have kept me quite busy.

Anyways, something that really bothers me is all the crap about that anti-muslim movie. Okay I can understand that they're angry about it. But if you come to the point that you kill someone people and destroy embassies because of a movie, it shows that you're not right in the head.
There were some protests here too cause there's a big muslim community in some cities Belgium. And the guys from sharia4belgium showed up (a really extremist group that spreads hatred against us, the natives) and well, did what they always do and claimed to speak in the name of all muslims.

Now that's something I really can't stand. There are a few muslim people in my class and they're all kind and reasonable people, I know they'd never approve or join all that violence and hatred. But the sad thing for all the normal, reasonable muslims is that all those extremists give the common people a bad impression of the islam. I think the whole thing, especially the protests in the western countries are just based on using the movie as an excuse to riot and be violent.

So yeah, that's how I think about it. I hope this isn't the wrong place to talk about it, if not, then sorry about it ^^;

[pkmnswampmaster]

Hah, sorry that I didn't post any more. Exams, work and other stuff have kept me quite busy.

Anyways, something that really bothers me is all the crap about that anti-muslim movie. Okay I can understand that they're angry about it. But if you come to the point that you kill someone people and destroy embassies because of a movie, it shows that you're not right in the head.
There were some protests here too cause there's a big muslim community in some cities Belgium. And the guys from sharia4belgium showed up (a really extremist group that spreads hatred against us, the natives) and well, did what they always do and claimed to speak in the name of all muslims.

Now that's something I really can't stand. There are a few muslim people in my class and they're all kind and reasonable people, I know they'd never approve or join all that violence and hatred. But the sad thing for all the normal, reasonable muslims is that all those extremists give the common people a bad impression of the islam. I think the whole thing, especially the protests in the western countries are just based on using the movie as an excuse to riot and be violent.

So yeah, that's how I think about it. I hope this isn't the wrong place to talk about it, if not, then sorry about it ^^;

That's why I always, always and also always avoid religious conversations or topics unless the people are atheist like me, and eveno so I try to avoid the topic unless it bumps to the main topic of discussion (like here for example)

[Pokemon Geek]

Oh, have something happened?
Hey, Geek. You from Norway?

Yes i am from the cold land of Norway.

[Elysian]

Finally! I started to think I was the only one!!

[Pokemon Geek]

Finally! I started to think I was the only one!!

Nice to see there are others here.

BTW, Bergen ftw!

[Elysian]

Yeah.. we're rare. lol

Heheh, Toten ftw!

[7 tyranitars]

There used to be a dutch girl in the old Athiest club. :c but she isn't in this one so yeah: Only dutch person so far I know.

[Drake Pokétrainer]

Well, even though I'm not from the Netherlands, Dutch is also my first language ^^;

[MastersOfMonsters]

Very random, but, I once had a christian teacher teaching us in Evolution...

...

For some reason, I found that very interresting~

[Drake Pokétrainer]

Well, when someone's christian it doesn't means that they're creationists.

I know loads of christian people who accept evolution and who think the entire creationism thing is ridiculous.

[Darato]

Dude I am high watching Batman and so in touch with everything right now.

I love you all so much also

L.F.D.

[MastersOfMonsters]

Well, when someone's christian it doesn't means that they're creationists.

I know loads of christian people who accept evolution and who think the entire creationism thing is ridiculous.

Oh, I didn't know that, actually. ._. My bad.

However, this person actually told us he doesn't believe in it. He also told us the dinosaurs probably didn't exist. ^^"

[SoulSilverMstr411]

The dinosaurs probably didn't exist.

That dosn't sound too sure to me. lol

[MastersOfMonsters]

Well, I think he just didn't want to say what he really thinks, and added 'probably' and such. Don't really remember. But the class didn't make it easy for him since they ignored what he said and asked him questions about what he thought, and whatnot.

[7 tyranitars]

Well, even though I'm not from the Netherlands, Dutch is also my first language ^^;

flanders.. ... And I know about Sharia4belgium, they visit the Netherlands aswell... -.- Those people are pure evil.