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    Had a test in Religion yesterday in School. I think I did Ok.
    Though, I had troubles not to write that women were seen as Food-making sex slaves in the muslim religion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 7 tyranitars View Post
    Those people are pure evil.
    Be careful, now. This is called essentializing - you're reducing the individuals in that Sharia group from people with flaws to a single essential trait (here, "pure evil"). It's like generalization, but more damaging. Essentializing an opposing group to a distillation of moral evil is precisely the method by which religions inspire the kinds of division and violence we see today. Fundamental/extreme Islamists (like Christians/Catholics/etc.) may be quite wrong and quite dangerous, but we must always be cognizant of the fact they're still fallible human beings and are capable of being mistaken despite their 'good' intentions. If we essentialize our opponents, we're falling into the same irrational and divisive trap that makes our opponents seem so close-minded and extreme to us.
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    I have to agree with you, Profesco. I think no person is truly evil. Not even the worst people in history. For an example, look at Hitler or Bin Laden. From their point of view they were doing the right thing, they were the good guys, even though their goals and their ways to accomplish it were morally completely wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Profesco View Post
    Be careful, now. This is called essentializing - you're reducing the individuals in that Sharia group from people with flaws to a single essential trait (here, "pure evil"). It's like generalization, but more damaging. Essentializing an opposing group to a distillation of moral evil is precisely the method by which religions inspire the kinds of division and violence we see today. Fundamental/extreme Islamists (like Christians/Catholics/etc.) may be quite wrong and quite dangerous, but we must always be cognizant of the fact they're still fallible human beings and are capable of being mistaken despite their 'good' intentions. If we essentialize our opponents, we're falling into the same irrational and divisive trap that makes our opponents seem so close-minded and extreme to us.
    I am not kidding, if you knew about them you would think so too, they aren't a normal religious group, they are hatemongers. They have made deaththreats and such.
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    I would like to join. I finally accepted the fact I was Atheist during the summer after 5th Grade. I ACTUALLY wanted to believe, since my whole family was Theist, but I couldn't, so... Yeah. :P


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    I would like to join this club, if y'all will have me. Continuing my proud tradition of fence-sitting, indecisiveness and lack of ideological/social/political commitment, I am an agnostic.

    Quote Originally Posted by Adalricus View Post
    Had a test in Religion yesterday in School. I think I did Ok.
    Though, I had troubles not to write that women were seen as Food-making sex slaves in the muslim religion.
    Sorry to anyone I may have offended right now-
    There is no need to apologise for speaking the truth of women's status in the Islamic world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 7 tyranitars View Post
    I am not kidding, if you knew about them you would think so too, they aren't a normal religious group, they are hatemongers. They have made deaththreats and such.
    Sounds like an atypical religious hategroup to me, no different from Scientology, Westbore Baptist Church, Muslim Brotherhood, the Nazis... you're gonna need to give me some reason to hate these guys more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrosion View Post
    I would like to join. I finally accepted the fact I was Atheist during the summer after 5th Grade. I ACTUALLY wanted to believe, since my whole family was Theist, but I couldn't, so... Yeah. :P
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    I would like to join this club, if y'all will have me. Continuing my proud tradition of fence-sitting, indecisiveness and lack of ideological/social/political commitment, I am an agnostic.



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    Hello all, room for one more? I'm agnostic, and I have tried, personally to believe in God. It never works for me ^^; My parents believe it, I don't. I have always disliked upsetting my parents, but something in my mind leads me to disbelieve it. I've tried a few times to believe it, again because I don't want to upset my parents, but I can never do it. I hope I'm accepted here as a agnostic who's tried to believe in it and that we can get along ^^;

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    Welcome to our new members.

    So were in October now, the start of a Holiday that brings up a lot of religious points of view, due to spirits being part of it, and how it is looked at in other places like Mexico.

    What do you think of it as?

    For me it's just another holiday based off of other traditions with a lot of modern stuff added that now leads to all kinds of issues.

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    Might I join this club? I'm an atheist, myself, though I can tolerate religions and am even fairly interested in some (my entire immediate family is atheist as well, so we don't even own a Bible, to my knowledge). Anyways, about the whole Halloween thing, I see it as a way to honor old traditions that has been misinterpreted as an opportunity for children to dress up in usually-frightening costumes to get free candy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darato View Post
    Welcome to our new members.

    So were in October now, the start of a Holiday that brings up a lot of religious points of view, due to spirits being part of it, and how it is looked at in other places like Mexico.

    What do you think of it as?

    For me it's just another holiday based off of other traditions with a lot of modern stuff added that now leads to all kinds of issues.

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    I've actually read how it came to be, and I think it's silly how some extremely obnoxious Christians and other religious groups think it's the birthday of the devil. GTFO, please.


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    Hey. I'm an atheist and have been for as long as I can remember. (As a kid I made up my own elaborate pretend religion where the Christian God was the villain, but if you'd actually asked me if it was real, I'd have said no.) I'd like to join, just because this club is here.

    Halloween isn't really a thing in Iceland (we do the holiday-where-kids-go-around-collecting-candy on Ash Day, in February), so I'm kind of distanced from all of it. The idea of it being Satanic or whatever just makes me roll my eyes.

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    Haloween isnt that big here, so i dont really care.

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    Hey, if any of you folks are politically active in the US, perhaps you'd be interested in spreading this story around, or even calling/writing letters to your senators and congresspeople about Rep. Broun's position on the House Science and Technology Committee. It is painfully, frighteningly clear that no committee whose responsibility is to be engaged in and educated about science in this country should be allowed to have someone with these ideas on it.



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    At this point I'm still trying to define what I am. I've grown up Christian and I did try. I hated gays like my family told me, I also hated anyone who was different from me. Finally I realized that, "Holy F-ing crap!! Why is religion telling me to hate??????" I want to believe that all human life is connected and that we are more capable of things than we give ourselves credit for. If there is a "god/gods" pulling the strings of life behind those ideals then so be it. I refuse to belive "God" will send me to hell for loving anyone and everyone as equally as a human is capable. I don't claim to know much of anything other than christian beliefs, but the things I have heard seem too similar to each other. It's no coincidence that humanity, as a whole, is all right AND wrong in certain aspects.


    Also I want to note that my cousin, (18 days younger than me) came out to his family not too long ago. All of a sudden my family (who thinks gays are wrong and icky) say that they will love him no matter what. (I mean they still say they want him to find the right path again, but at least they didn't disown him. I have to give them more credit than I originally thought they were capable of)
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    I got busted for weed so might be away for a week or two, but with any luck will be back by this weekend, but in any case, listen to uncle Profesco when I'm gone if he'll take charge if not 7 tyranitars and Pokemon Geek can co lead.

    I love you all very, very much, and this was a wake up call to stop doing things at the rate I was, So I won't wake up with sores anymore.

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    Profesco that hurt, even though i am not American. Sharing it a bit around as i type.

    Darato thats sad to hear, although as you did break the law you have to take responsibility for your actions. Why you want me to be a potential co lead though is beyound my imagination as i am one of the less active members. Still, hope everything goes well for you.

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    So whats up people? Quite busy these days with studies and all so was waiting for somebody else to post something intresting, but it seems pretty quiet in here at the moment.

    So my question is, whats everyone up to?

    Personally i trying to work on my modeling and texturing skills as thats what i am studying while playing some Black and White 2 on my spare time since it just came out. (Damm its awsome!)

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