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    I forgot about Alakazam. It has jumped up and is not just chillin' behind Gengar as a strong offensive spA'ing pokemon. He is very frail so the Magic Guard sparing him as much HP as he can from Life Orb and the common Sandstorm damage save him greatly. Not to mention Psyshock's introduction no longer gets him walled by you special walls.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enjyu View Post
    It gets roost.

    I forgot to mention blaziken/combusken. They are awesome. I use combusken in ou. It works and nobody expects it. The only real problem is gyrados. But after 2 sd's up, it can ohko defensive politoed with brick break.
    Vaporeon is kinda an issue also...

    Hippowdon too...dragonite...but that's when I switch.
    Not DW Charizard.


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    In lower tiers, Qwilfish got a very nice buff. It basically went from not having a serious analysis to almost UU. Intimidate allows it to counter the many Fighting-types in RU, like Primeape, Hariyama, and Medicham, and checking Feraligatr with Haze. It's one of the few RU Pokemon that get both Spikes and Toxic Spikes (the others being Scolipede, Roselia, and Omastar), which gives it a niche on stall teams, as it also has access to Taunt to stop Clefable which is otherwise the bane of them.


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    Multiscale really made a dragonite a more serious contender. Especially certain bulky sets that can take a lot. Other pokemon that take advanced of eviolite have improved a lot too, like Chansey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enjyu View Post
    It gets roost.

    I forgot to mention blaziken/combusken. They are awesome. I use combusken in ou. It works and nobody expects it. The only real problem is gyrados. But after 2 sd's up, it can ohko defensive politoed with brick break.
    Vaporeon is kinda an issue also...

    Hippowdon too...dragonite...but that's when I switch.
    Talking about Solar Power Charizard, which cant legally uptain Roost because its a 4gen move, with no TM to teach it and you cant breed it on to a dw one because its only male


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    Quote Originally Posted by Takeo View Post
    Talking about Solar Power Charizard, which cant legally uptain Roost because its a 4gen move, with no TM to teach it and you cant breed it on to a dw one because its only male
    Roost with SP Charizard can be hard to deal with however there's it doesn't take the weakness to rocks.

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    Ditto! He went from useless to one of the best revenge killers known to mankind! Granted he's not released yet, but still!





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    Wait, Solar Power isn''t released yet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Wallrein View Post
    Wait, Solar Power isn''t released yet?
    I saw it being used on some battles, I am assuming it was, lol

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    SP charizard is released, but only male ones. so a SP can't get any egg moves or 4th gen moves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thatjeremykid View Post
    SP charizard is released, but only male ones. so a SP can't get any egg moves or 4th gen moves.
    That's what I thought, and surprisingly I saw it a lot on triple battles on random wifi.

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    Even if it had roost, DW Charizard is probably best to clean up the late game with a choice scarf.

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    all water pokemon improved with scald

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    Not a fact ^

    Feraligatr, Kingler, Cloyster, Gyarados, Kabutops, are some who didn't give a **** that they could have scald. Not to mention the water pokemon that could use scald alright but it didn't help there usage.
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    Feraligatr, Kingler, Cloyster, Gyarados, Kabutops, are some who didn't give a **** that they could have scald. Not to mention the water pokemon that could use scald alright but it didn't help there usage.
    And some special attackers also didn't care. Starmie didn't, it's too offensive for that.

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    Alakazam got Psyshock (same as most if not all other psychic pokemon) and It also got Magic guard which gave it a huge boost and put it back in OU (or at least made it more popular.)

    Gliscor got Poision heal which resulted in several annoying new sets, It also got Accrobatics which is the hardest hitting useable flying move in the game when combined with flying gem and stab.

    Gyarados and Salamance got moxie to boost their attacks (both lose outrage if they have moxie as outrage is a move tutor move.)

    Gorebyss, Huntail, Cloytster, and Clamperl got Shell smash which is the best offensive boosting move in the game.

    Vaporian and Whishcash got both Scald and Hydration which works well with Politoad. On a side note Dragonite got Multiscale and Hurricane which it can abuse in the rain along with surf and thunder.

    Venomoth got Quiver dance which makes it useable especially with baton pass (I think thats a regular, egg, or Pokemon xd move but it does get it.)

    Butterfree also got quiver dance so it can be somewhat useable.

    Smeagle got Gear shift (+1 atk +2 speed), Quiver dance (+1 s.atk +1s.def +1 speed), and Shell smash (+2 atk +2s.atk +2 speed -1 def -1 s.def) to increase its baton pass capabilities
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    Quote Originally Posted by fearless rocker View Post
    all water pokemon improved with scald
    Quote Originally Posted by John Wallrein View Post
    Not a fact ^

    Feraligatr, Kingler, Cloyster, Gyarados, Kabutops, are some who didn't give a **** that they could have scald. Not to mention the water pokemon that could use scald alright but it didn't help there usage.
    Yeah, I guess it was only special attacking waters, and ones more defensively orientated as well. Still a lot of mons though!

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    Well i'd say vaporeon got a little nice thing with hydration offensive rest vaporeon is a boss


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    Has Sheer Force Nidoking, Nidoqueen, and Feraligatr been mentioned yet? SF is certainly the best ability that these Pokemon can have. Even if Feraligatr has to give up Ice Punch and Dragon Dance, it still has Swords Dance, and Ice Fang becomes stronger than an un-SF boosted Ice Punch.

    Slowbro, Slowking, Ho-Oh, and Tangrowth now have Regenerator, which can negate entry hazard damage if used correctly.

    Lucario and Gallade have gotten Justified, which IMO, is superior to Steadfast and Inner Focus.

    Finally,Breloom and Roserade get perfectly-accurate high-powered moves with technician.
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