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    Discuss and speculate about the GYM LEADERS and ELITE FOUR, both old and new, for Black 2 and White 2.
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    Like many people speculate, I wonder if we will get more new gym leaders. I'm guessing 1 or 2 more, though I do hope we see the replaced ones at some point in the game. Of course this means gym leaders will get replaced, given the fact that if they weren't we'd be collecting more than 8 badges and there would be 2 Water gym leaders (Cress & Shizui).

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    The new gym leaders are incredibly interesting to me. I don't really think the new ones are replacing some from the previous title though. As someone said somewhere, when gym leaders are replaced the typing usually remains the same. Janice and Koga, while a poor example since it makes sense for a daughter to continue her father's legacy, is an example of this happening, as well as Juan replacing Wallace and staying a water gym. A user, sunyshore I believe, brought up a screenshot of Shooti (That's his name, right?) and his badge case with a few badges that don't actually exist in Black and White, mixed in with some that do. I know this is the anime and that it holds no indication of the games more often than not, and that these false badges have been done before just as placeholders, really. But one of the badges seemed to really resemble our new Poison-type gym leader, Homika.

    This is giving me an interesting idea of, if the previous game's gym leaders are still all intact, then maybe we have the choice of choosing which badges we want. Maybe we only have a quota of 8 badges to fill before gaining entrance to the league, and can pick and choose the gyms who's badges we receive.

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    I'm definitely a supporter of more gym leaders. I don't think in a two year span all of them will stay.. but I don't think all of them would have left either. Although having a larger amount of gyms would be nice too. I've never really seen why we've had to stick to 8 gyms each reigon...

    Having more gyms, but not neccessarily having to compete with all of them is definitely a good thing imo.

    And yes, I agree. The two new gym leaders definitely seem more interesting than others in Unova. I mean, three triplets who do the exact same thing!? Why couldn't there have been a variation in their hobbies and/or occupation..
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    I support more new leaders too.
    Like 6 more, in addition to the 8 of BW and the 2 that we already know of B2W2.

    16 gyms again would be so cool

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    Anyone else think that instead of battling previous gym leaders, their relative or some sort will be the ones that we'll be battling?

    For example, instead of Clay, it might be his son/daughter because he's out on a business trip abroad.
    ...or instead of Brycen, a new actor he's been mentoring perhaps?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wulava View Post
    Anyone else think that instead of battling previous gym leaders, their relative or some sort will be the ones that we'll be battling?

    For example, instead of Clay, it might be his son/daughter because he's out on a business trip abroad.
    ...or instead of Brycen, a new actor he's been mentoring perhaps?
    Like the relative is a temporary stand-in? Or they've taken over the gym. That would be cool. But then who are Homika and Shizui related to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wulava View Post
    Anyone else think that instead of battling previous gym leaders, their relative or some sort will be the ones that we'll be battling?

    For example, instead of Clay, it might be his son/daughter because he's out on a business trip abroad.
    ...or instead of Brycen, a new actor he's been mentoring perhaps?
    Does sound like an interesting idea. I guess it depends if we get more new gym leaders. Frankly, I don't see a connection between Homika & Shizui to any of the BW gym leaders.

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    Alright, so I just wanted to say that Homika's design seems really cool to me. More than just being a poison gym leader, which in itself is pretty cool, she's the first gym leader we've ever gotten with a musical theme, IIRC (If my avatar and name don't give you a clue, I'm into playing guitar).
    I'm loving how GF thought "outside the box" with the new leaders, making entirely new concepts. Anyway, just my two cents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BroaddySN View Post
    Like the relative is a temporary stand-in? Or they've taken over the gym. That would be cool. But then who are Homika and Shizui related to?
    Well, Homika and Shizui are obviously new since they live in those new areas.

    But for the case of other areas that we'll be "revisiting", other people might have taken over the gym OR the position of being the gym leader has been passed down OR asyou've said, just a temporary stand-in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wulava View Post
    Well, Homika and Shizui are obviously new since they live in those new areas.

    But for the case of other areas that we'll be "revisiting", other people might have taken over the gym OR the position of being the gym leader has been passed down OR asyou've said, just a temporary stand-in.
    I would like that. We'd still be with the old gyms, but the way it is run and the leader would be different. If we dn't get new ones altogether then I like your idea. Hopefully the website updates with something new when it updates with Corocoro stuff.

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    Well the Striaton triplets are obviously out now that we have another Water gym.

    I wonder if that means we won't get monkeys like in BW.
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    I'd like all new Gyms, please. All the missing types would be nice.

    *Cough Dark Gym*

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    I would love to have new gym leaders. Also having the Unova leaders return for rematches would be great(and you could rematch the new leaders too).

    Homika's desgin to me is cool and unique. Hopefully I like the other leaders as much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jigglychu View Post
    Well the Striaton triplets are obviously out now that we have another Water gym.

    I wonder if that means we won't get monkeys like in BW.
    Good, the monkeys were a gimmick that made the first gym way too easy and it babied us at the start of our journey. If no Striaton Gym means no monkeys that is fine by me. Maybe the gym just became a full fledged cafe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BroaddySN View Post
    Good, the monkeys were a gimmick that made the first gym way too easy and it babied us at the start of our journey. If no Striaton Gym means no monkeys that is fine by me. Maybe the gym just became a full fledged cafe?
    Highly probable.
    Maybe we could battle them still, but only as ordinary trainers and no longer gym leaders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wulava View Post
    Highly probable.
    Maybe we could battle them still, but only as ordinary trainers and no longer gym leaders.
    I'd like this. Or perhaps Cilan and Cress run the cafe, and Chili opens up that fire gym he was talking about. It'd be interesting to see him on his own and 2 years older.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wulava View Post
    Highly probable.
    Maybe we could battle them still, but only as ordinary trainers and no longer gym leaders.
    I like it a lot. And maybe Lenora gets replaced as well, with her only being good for fossil revival.

    Hopefully the Striaton triplets make their gym into a full café where you battle them and maybe even other people sitting around there? Could call for tons of EXP on our Pokémon and the battle against the Striaton triplets could even be a triple/rotation one.

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    i wanna see dark/ghost/steel gyms added

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    With only two Pokémon in her team, I guess Homika will likely be the first gym leader to be challenged by the protagonist. Or Maybe I'm wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BroaddySN View Post
    Good, the monkeys were a gimmick that made the first gym way too easy and it babied us at the start of our journey. If no Striaton Gym means no monkeys that is fine by me. Maybe the gym just became a full fledged cafe?
    I fail to see how they "babied" us. That Work Up's a killer move.

    I fear that the first Gym here may be to easy.

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    We saw in BW that every gym leader have it's profession aside from being gym leader except iris
    Striatlon trio-waiters
    Lenora- museum owner
    Burgh-artist
    Elsa-model
    Clay-miner
    Skyla-pilot
    Iccirus leader-actor
    Drayden-mayor
    Iris (AKA Dora the explorer)-nothing

    The poison leader (I don't plan remembering japanese names)- gitarist
    The water leader- Life guard

    speculation: dark gym leader- researcher of the strength of the pokemon (AKA akuruma)


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    Quote Originally Posted by lolipiece View Post
    I fail to see how they "babied" us. That Work Up's a killer move.

    I fear that the first Gym here may be to easy.
    Oh, no I meant that woman in the Dreamyard giving us a monkey was babying us. The Pokmeon the trio used were fine. I don't care that they used the monkeys.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ilan View Post
    We saw in BW that every gym leader have it's profession aside from being gym leader except iris
    Striatlon trio-waiters
    Lenora- museum owner
    Burgh-artist
    Elsa-model
    Clay-miner
    Skyla-pilot
    Iccirus leader-actor
    Drayden-mayor
    Iris (AKA Dora the explorer)-nothing

    The poison leader (I don't plan remembering japanese names)- gitarist
    The water leader- Life guard

    speculation: dark gym leader- researcher of the strength of the pokemon (AKA akuruma)
    Actually a lot of believing are believing Shizui to be a Dive Fisher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilan View Post
    We saw in BW that every gym leader have it's profession aside from being gym leader except iris
    Striatlon trio-waiters
    Lenora- museum owner
    Burgh-artist
    Elsa-model
    Clay-miner
    Skyla-pilot
    Iccirus leader-actor
    Drayden-mayor
    Iris (AKA Dora the explorer)-nothing

    The poison leader (I don't plan remembering japanese names)- gitarist
    The water leader- Life guard

    speculation: dark gym leader- researcher of the strength of the pokemon (AKA akuruma)
    Iris is a Dragon Master in training.
    Shizui is a diving fisherman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sakrey View Post
    With only two Pokémon in her team, I guess Homika will likely be the first gym leader to be challenged by the protagonist. Or Maybe I'm wrong.
    I agree! I expect to see her having a Whirlpede as her main... just because of the bass guitar she has.
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