Gym Leaders and Elite Four Discussion Thread [Read First Post]

[joep05]

since its been mentioned, i really like the idea of him having a lapras, maybe there will be signature pokemon that arent from this region, it hasnt happened very often, but it could well do this time around and i hope it does, i'd say its high time gyarados got some recognition by being a water signature, dont know what anyone else has to say about that but gyarados is clearly and undeniably a powerful pokemon, if its a gym worthy of being a higher rank than a dragon gym, then the sort of pokemon to rank higher would HAVE to be very good and gyarados (and lapras) fit the bill very nicely, but lapras has been the powerhouse and signature of loreleis ice team. gyarados has always been in dragonites shadow to some extent and has never had a taste of actually being someones signature (although i always preferred gyarados), always on dragon teams despite not actually being a dragon type, it was clearly better than that silly little floatzel of crasher wakes, i think gyarados should have something in b2/w2 that gives us acknowledgement of just how great and powerful it is, we've always known it is but its never been directly under the spotlight.

[GoldCyndaquil]

I wouldn't be suprised if Ludicolo isn't in his team or doesn't appear at all, plus he could just have a level 39 frillish with the other 2 instead of just all fully evolved pokemon.

I'm personally hoping for Shizui to have Pokes in the mid-high 40s, possibly even have his Sig be Lvl. 50. GF WAY underleveled gyms in BW1.

[your boss]

I'm personally hoping for Shizui to have Pokes in the mid-high 40s, possibly even have his Sig be Lvl. 50. GF WAY underleveled gyms in BW1.

I personally didn't think BW gyms were underleveled, this also happened in the Hoenn Elite 4.

[joep05]

im thinking and hoping the signature level for the final gym is 50, as well as a flygon for drayden which of course is level 45

[PokeMac_2]

I doubt Shizui will have Ludicolo as his ace. Gym leaders nearly always have Pokemon from their generation as their ace (well, since Hoenn bar Wattson), so I'd guess he'll have a fifth gen Water-type as his star. Carracosta Or Seismitoad seem likely to me, because I don't see Simipour, Basculin, Alomomola or Swanna being his ace. Jellicent could happen too, but I dunno, it doesn't really suit him I guess.

I just hope his levels are going to be in the late forties. Seems to be a few level jumps with since it goes ~12 levels in the space of two Gyms.

I thinks you're prolly right cuz (and I know this is in related, but hear me out) if elesa's mareep thingy is lv 28 (one lv higher than her zebrastrika in bw) than all the leaders are prolly gonna have higher lvs than their predecessors (excluding Cheren and his weak patrat and lilipup :/). This is how I think it's gonna go down:

Cheren: lilipup lv 13, patrat lv 9-11
Homika: koffing lv 15-17, whirlipede lv 17-20
Spiderman (burgh): *insert two or 3 random bugs* at lv 23-25, leavanny lv 25-27
Elesa: emongas and mareep thingy lv 28 and zebrastrika lv 30
Clay: *insert random ground pokes* at lv 32-36 and exadrill at lv 35-37
Skyla: *Insert random birds* at lv 38-40, swanna at lv 40-42
Drayden: *insert random dragons* at lv 43, haxorous at lv 45
Shizui: *insert 3 random water types* at lv 45 or 46 and ace Pokemon at lv 47-48

Then E4
Will be 50s plus

[Kangaflora]

Seeing that Shizui has been confirmed as the eighth and final Gym Leader, that should give us trainers plenty of time to train-up our Grass and Electric types respectively between Drayden and Shizui.

[nuzamaki90]

Eelektross?! Seriously?? It's not even a water-type. Seismitoad seems unlikelysince it doesn't fit an island-diver theme. Floatzel actually seems possible, my only problem with that is that it's Crasher Wake's signature. Lapras doesn't even suit him either. That's why I think Golduck and Carracosta fit him well, as for his Sig, that's a toss up for me to be honest.

My mistake, I forgot Eelektross wasn't a water type. I chose Seismitoad because it fits as a "beach bully" kind of PKMN. Lapras because it's design reminded me of his hair. Sharpedo also reminded me of his hair and I thought "It would be a better pick than Basculin". I don't know about Carracosta since most Gym leaders don't have fossil PKMN (besides Byron) in their first teams. Golduck seems pretty likely though especially since Psyduck has already been confirmed.

[MikeHill005]

Ooh, this is getting exciting. I'm on the edge of my seat, since I imagine that someone will probably get the game early (as always.)

Admittedly, I never would have thought Shizui would end up as the eighth gym leader. It's cool, but a bit dissapointing at the same time... I guess none of the gym leaders will have more than 3 Pokemon -_-

Gamefreak, y u make game for 3 year-olds!?

*End Rant*

Seriously though, we're getting down to the wire. Anyone else going to try and avoid spoilers?

[gliscor&yanmega]

I thinks you're prolly right cuz (and I know this is in related, but hear me out) if elesa's mareep thingy is lv 28 (one lv higher than her zebrastrika in bw) than all the leaders are prolly gonna have higher lvs than their predecessors (excluding Cheren and his weak patrat and lilipup :/). This is how I think it's gonna go down:

Cheren: lilipup lv 13, patrat lv 9-11
Homika: koffing lv 15-17, whirlipede lv 17-20

Cheren's Patrat is confirmed level 11. Homika's Koffing confirmed level 16, and Whirlipede Level 18.

[Bolt the Cat]

Here's my speculation:

Cheren:
Patrat Lv. 11
Lillipup Lv. 13
TM: Work Up

Homika:
Koffing Lv. 16
Whirlipede Lv. 18
TM: Venoshock

Burgh:
Dwebble Lv. 22
(previous gen Bug type. Possible candidates: Scyther, Heracross, Vespiquen, Skorupi, Yanmega) Lv. 23
Leavanny Lv. 25
TM: Struggle Bug

Elesa:
Flaafy Lv. 28
Raichu/Jolteon/Emolga Lv. 30
Zebstrika Lv. 31
TM: Volt Switch

Clay:
(previous gen Ground type. Possible candidates: Dugtrio, Rhydon, Steelix, Donphan, Hippowdon) Lv. 32
Krokorok Lv. 33
Excadrill Lv. 35
TM: Bulldoze

Skyla:
Rufflet Lv. 39
(previous gen Flying type. Possible candidates: Pidgeot, Togetic, Skarmory, Swellow, Altaria, Staraptor) Lv. 40
Unfezant Lv. 42
TM: Sky Drop

Drayden:
Druddigon Lv. 47
Zweilous Lv. 48
Haxorus Lv. 50
TM: Dragon Tail

Shizui:
(2 previous gen Water types. Possible candidates: Golduck, Cloyster, Kingler, Gyarados, Octillery, Mantine, Sharpedo, Waillord, Lumineon) Lv. 49 and 50
Jellicent Lv. 52
TM: Scald

[Quagsire13]

Heres my guess at gym teams starting with Burgh seeing as Cheren + Homika's are already confirmed...

Burgh
- Swadloon
- Dwebble
- Vespiquen

Elesa
- Emolga
- Flaaffy
- Zebstrika

Clay
- Krokorok
- Piloswine
- Excadrill

Skyla
- Drifblim
- Altaria
- Swanna

Drayden
- Druddigon
- Dragonair
- Haxorus

Shizui
- Wailord
- Lapras
- Jellicent

[joep05]

you know ive put no thought whatsoever into the teams i am going to raise :P, speculation on the gyms and e4...you know. theres been plenty of debating over the gym leaders, still cant help but wonder, but also wonder about the e4, who they will be and what they will use, apparently alder is no longer the champion either...who knows but we'll see soon enough

[Star Champion AJ]

Here's a small Gym Leader speculation
Note: Since Cheren, Homika and Kamitsure are confirmed, I won't speculate teams for them.

Burgh
Beedrill/Vespiquen
Dwebble
Leavanny

Clay
Dugtrio/Rhyhorn/Steelix
Krokorok
Excadrill

Skyla
Altaria/Togetic/Togekiss
Swoobat/Unfezant
Swanna

Drayden
Dragonair/Vibrava/Flygon
Druddigon
Haxorus

Shizui
Golduck
Ludicolo
Seismitoad

[Monster Guy]

Speculation for unconfirmed Gym Leaders.

Burgh: Dweble, Vespiquen, Leavanny,
TM: Struggle Bug

Clay: Nidorino, Krokorok, Exadrill
TM: Bulldoze

Skyla: Togekiss, Swanna, Unfezant
TM: Acrobatics

Drayden: Flygon, Druddigon, Haxorus
TM: Dragon Tail

Shizui (And his awful tan. Seriously dude, you could have at least tanned your feet...) , Ludicolo, Seismitoad, Jellicent
TM: Scald (It's the only Water type TM...)

[JD]

Speculation

Burgh: Dweble, Vespiquen, Leavanny,
TM: Struggle Bug

Elesa: Flaafy, Emolga, Zebstrika (But that should've been obvious. xD)
TM: Volt Switch

Clay: Nidorino, Krokorok, Exadrill
TM: Bulldoze

Skyla: Braviary, Mandibuzz (Her Pokemon were horrible in BW tbh. Her team needs improvement :/)
TM: Acrobatics

Drayden: Flygon, Druddigon, Haxorus
TM: Dragon Tail

Shizui (And his awful tan. Seriously dude, you could have at least tanned your feet...) , Ludicolo, Seismitoad, Jellicent
TM: Scald (It's the only Water type TM...)

Why does Skyla only have two Pokemon? And Mandibuzz and Braviary would have to be under leveled by at least 20 levels. I say she should keep Swanna and Unfezant but gain an Altaria in favor of Swoobat.

[Pilpulp]

No one has speculated E4.... I'll just do who not what they have.

Elite Four:

Lenora ~ Fossils/Rock Types

Shauntal ~ Ghost Types

Grimsley ~ Fire type (I think that's what he did before)

Marshal ~ Fighting

Champion ~ Possible Candidates ~ Iris ~ Dragon - Akuroma ~ Steel

[Locormus]

Soooo....

Shizui takes the place of Juan as the most disliked gymleader ever? :P Seriously, all the people here moaning that Drayden should become E4, or even Champion, and then this Shizui guy takes his spot and Drayden gets demoted... Booohooo!!! :P

And he has pansy water-types as well! He better have: Lapras/Golduck, Gyarados, Samurott. And even then his team would pose no threat.

[Nyarlathotep]

Grimsley ~ Fire type (I think that's what he did before)

Dark Type.

My guess... Elite Four:

Shauntal - Ghost Type

Caitlin - Psychic Type

Lenora/Iris - Dragon/Rock Type

Marshal - Fighting Type

Champion: Akuroma/Iris ~ Steel/Dragon Type.

Shizui takes the place of Juan as the most disliked gymleader ever? :P

Not really, I never seen anyone hating Shizui up to now. And I don't think Juan was the most disliked leader.

And he has pansy water-types as well! He better have: Lapras/Golduck, Gyarados, Samurott. And even then his team would pose no threat.

I doubt he will have Gyarados and Samurott.

[Chaos Rush]

Speculation:

Cheren:
Lv11 Patrat
Lv13 Lillipup

Homika:
Lv16 Koffing
Lv18 Whirlipede

Burgh:
Lv25 Scizor
Lv25 Scizor
Lv25 Scizor

Elesa:
Lv28 Flaffy
Lv28 Flaffy
Lv28 Flaffy

Clay:
Lv55 Tyranitar
Lv55 Tyranitar
Lv55 Tyranitar

Skyla:
Lv36 Tornadus
Lv36 Landorus
Lv36 Thundurus

Drayden:
Lv43 Zekrom
Lv43 Zekrom
Lv43 Zekrom
Lv43 Kyurem
Lv6 Zekrom
Lv43 Zekrom

Naked-water-guy:
Lv69 Marill
Lv69 Marill
Lv69 Marill

[R_N]

Speculation:


Naked-water-guy:
Lv69 Marill
Lv69 Marill
Lv69 Marill

Sounds about right

maybe an azurill instead