Gym Leaders and Elite Four Discussion Thread [Read First Post]

[Nyarlathotep]

I'll have to find someone with the key though

Well... there are ways to play without needing someone with a key, but this method is "illegal"...

[Excitable Boy]

It took me a few attempts to beat Skyla with Krokorok, Lairon, and Golduck all level 38.

Lairon is Rock/Steel, which 4x resists Flying moves. You're making the difficulty lower for yourself by abusing basic game mechanics and strategy.

I used a Sealeo (38) and a Galvantula (36) and she was quite challenging to me.

Did you really expect her to be difficult using an Ice type and an Electric type?

Man the Magnemite line makes two gyms not a challenge at all. I regret using it for BW2.

More like four Gyms, since it's immune to Roxie, resists Burgh and has neutral Magnet Bomb/SonicBoom, buttrapes Skyla, and SEs Marlon.

Magnemite is like God Tier for an in-game BW2 run, because it comes so early, evolves so early, is useful against like everything, and has access to parafuse.

She has Swoobat, Sigilyph, Swanna and Skarmory.

Lots of "S"s.

SKYLA

[Endoplasmic Reticulum]

Well... there are ways to play without needing someone with a key, but this method is "illegal"...

Also I don't know how to hack

More like four Gyms, since it's immune to Roxie, resists Burgh and has neutral Magnet Bomb/SonicBoom, buttrapes Skyla, and SEs Marlon.

Right. I didn't count Burgh and Marlon

[The Eleventh]

So much hate towards the Skyla's little Swoobat...

I don't hate Swoobat. In fact, I found it to be highly useful when I used it Black. I just think it should have been replaced, rather than Unfezant, since that would make a better fit.

Exactly. She has Swoobat, Sigilyph, Swanna and Skarmory.

Lots of "S"s.

SKYLA

~conspiracy go!~

[Nyarlathotep]

Did you really expect her to be difficult using an Ice type and an Electric type?

Actually no, I was expecting to have an easy victory... Fool me, I lost twice before beating her.

Also I don't know how to hack

Neither do I.

[Bullkid]

So much hate towards the Skyla's little Swoobat...

>Implying that thinking that there are better choices for Skyla's roster = hate

Lairon is Rock/Steel, which 4x resists Flying moves. You're making the difficulty lower for yourself by abusing basic game mechanics and strategy.

Did you really expect her to be difficult using an Ice type and an Electric type

Thanks for reminding me yet again why I love you so much.

e:

~CONSPIRACY~

Oh, the ~SUSPENSE~

[Endoplasmic Reticulum]

Oh, the ~SUSPENSE~

It's funny because that also starts with the letter S

[Shazdar]

Oh, the ~SUSPENSE~

Shocking! Also the only problem with Magnemite in BW2 is that it is not going to be that helpful against the Elite4 most likely.

[Endolise]

Shocking! Also the only problem with Magnemite in BW2 is that it is not going to be that helpful against the Elite4 most likely.

Barring coverage moves, Caitlin and Grimsley can't do very much to it.

[Endoplasmic Reticulum]

Trust me. I used a Magnezone, and it wrecked

[Bolt the Cat]

Am I the only one who thinks that they could have given Skyla the opposite Version exclusive.Rufflet for White 2 and Vullaby for Black 2 ?or maybe a Pelipper

Why not switch them, that way you can actually see them in the other version.

I think Swoobat does fit her, it is a flying type and its color scheme matches Skyla's clothes.

Swoobat isn't a particularly good flier (and I mean good at literally flying, not that it's a bad Flying type or can't use Fly or anything), plus it's not exactly that graceful. That's why it doesn't fit Skyla. I'll admit, it's kind of a minor thing, but it kind of bothers me that they'd keep this thing and get rid of the one Pokemon on her team that does fit that team (Unfezant).

[Nyarlathotep]

Swoobat isn't a particularly good flier (and I mean good at literally flying, not that it's a bad Flying type or can't use Fly or anything), plus it's not exactly that graceful. That's why it doesn't fit Skyla.

Looking from this perspective, you are right... But I do think it is graceful, more than Skarmory, Gliscor and Sigilyph.

[Shazdar]

Looking from this perspective, you are right... But I do think it is graceful, more than Skarmory, Gliscor and Sigilyph.

Yeah Swoobat does seem more graceful than Sigilyph.Not sure about Skarmony and Gliscor.

Barring coverage moves, Caitlin and Grimsley can't do very much to it.

Yeah good point.For Grimsley that's also barring Scrafty.

[Endoplasmic Reticulum]

Quite honestly there are many Pokemon that don't suit the gym leaders. I just don't really think about it like that. I just think about how it contributes to the challenge

[gliscor&yanmega]

Lairon is Rock/Steel, which 4x resists Flying moves. You're making the difficulty lower for yourself by abusing basic game mechanics and strategy.

Do you have a point? I never said you shouldn't or can't use advantages to your liking. I also never called Skyla "easy" or "hard" or whatever as if her difficulty level was set, I said that it took me a few attempts to beat her.

[Endoplasmic Reticulum]

Do you have a point? I never said you shouldn't or can't use advantages to your liking. I also never called Skyla "easy" or "hard" or whatever as if her difficulty level was set, I said that it took me a few attempts to beat her.

...Really? Skyla is one of the easiest gym leaders I've ever battled in any Pokemon game. I soloed her with a SERPERIOR. A Pokemon that is weak to her.

Granted this was in BW1 and probably wouldn't work in BW2.

[KnightofRawr]

Look at Skyla's final would tournament team. That's basically where they put what fits her: Swanna, Jumpluff, Drifblim, Archeops, Braviary, Mandibuzz

The question remains as to why they didn't stick one of those on her new team? Even a Rufflet/Vullaby would have been perfect over Swoobat because it would have given the player a pokedex sighting.

[Endoplasmic Reticulum]

Because they're significantly weaker

[gliscor&yanmega]

...Really? Skyla is one of the easiest gym leaders I've ever battled in any Pokemon game. I soloed her with a SERPERIOR. A Pokemon that is weak to her.

Granted this was in BW1 and probably wouldn't work in BW2.

Everyone has different experiences. I've played Black a ton of times with a ton of different teams and the difficulty I had with each gym leader changed based on what Pokemon I was using. There's also more to a battle then just type advantage.

[Endoplasmic Reticulum]

Idk I just find that Swanna of hers makes it easy to defeat because it gets rid of her grass resistance and makes it 4x weak to Electric

[gliscor&yanmega]

Idk I just find that Swanna of hers makes it easy to defeat because it gets rid of her grass resistance and makes it 4x weak to Electric

It also however, gives her something to counter Rock types, and Swanna takes neutral damage from Ice type moves. If someone goes in not planning to use Electric types and instead using Rock or Ice, then they'll probably have a harder time with Swanna. Plus Swanna could still give an Electric type some trouble, they take neutral damage against Water moves(Pure Electric types at less), Swanna could out-speed the opposing Pokemon and get a critical hit in.

[Wishing Star]

Look at Skyla's final would tournament team. That's basically where they put what fits her: Swanna, Jumpluff, Drifblim, Archeops, Braviary, Mandibuzz

The question remains as to why they didn't stick one of those on her new team? Even a Rufflet/Vullaby would have been perfect over Swoobat because it would have given the player a pokedex sighting.

I guess not putting in the opposite-version bird promotes interactivity or something. :/

[TheEliteEmpoleon]

Words of wisdom: Don't underestimate Cheren when your only teammate is an Azurill...

[Bolt the Cat]

I guess not putting in the opposite-version bird promotes interactivity or something. :/

Not really. As is, you can see at least one Pokemon in each evolutionary line in trainer rosters and just trade for them on the GTS. You can already trade for Mandibuzz/Braviary over the GTS, what's the harm in allowing you to do the same with Vullaby/Rufflet?

[Wishing Star]

Not really. As is, you can see at least one Pokemon in each evolutionary line in trainer rosters and just trade for them on the GTS. You can already trade for Mandibuzz/Braviary over the GTS, what's the harm in allowing you to do the same with Vullaby/Rufflet?

Well, yeah. Not needing to trade for Mandibuzz/Vullaby and Braviary/Rufflet means one less potential interaction. Needing to trade for them is one more potential interaction (in other words, increased interaction). It may not seem like much with the presence of the GTS, but for those who don't have Wi-fi access, it's quite the leap.