Gym Leaders and Elite Four Discussion Thread [Read First Post]

[rocky505]

Okay WHAT THE FREAKING HELL?

How could a level 62 chandelure outspeed my timid level 60 starmie?!

its scarfed.

[Ver-mont]

Is Marshal any harder in BW2? I mean, he has the same Pokemon as in BW1, just at higher levels. He was definitely the hardest for me in BW1 thanks to the nuisance of an ability that is Sturdy (plus he tends to waste his Full Restores on Sawk each time I beat him down), but it also might have been because the only thing I had that had an advantage against him was Archeops.

He was just as easy as in BW1 when I battled him.

[Wishing Star]

Is Marshal any harder in BW2? I mean, he has the same Pokemon as in BW1, just at higher levels. He was definitely the hardest for me in BW1 thanks to the nuisance of an ability that is Sturdy (plus he tends to waste his Full Restores on Sawk each time I beat him down), but it also might have been because the only thing I had that had an advantage against him was Archeops.

I find Marshal to be just as tedious to defeat in BW2 as in BW1. Not necessarily easier, because of the reason you state, but just as tedious.

[gliscor&yanmega]

Defeated Marlon yesterday. Lost maybe one more time after my first lost, still ended up being a close call, Jellicent's Recover was the problem really.

I have to finish dealing with Team Plasma now(Defeated Colress so far), then I'll be taking on the Elite Four then Iris. After that's done I'll start my White 2 on Challenge Mode.

[Nyarlathotep]

I just defeated Drayden... I lost once, even with Keldeo in my team. On other hand, in the second time I battled him, I defeated three of his four Pokémon with Flygon alone... I have no idea why he kept using crunch and rock slide instead of dragon moves in my Pokémon. Anyway, it was the easiest Gym battle up to now, even though I lost once =P

And oh, with Blaziken in my team, Zenzolin and the Shadow Triad were a quite easy too.

[Demon Kitsune Yoko Kurama]

I just defeated the Elite 4 not to long ago. The battles were easy, due to my Pokemon being at really high levels. Serperior on level 70. The rooms are amazing, it's too cool.

[gliscor&yanmega]

I just defeated Drayden... I lost once, even with Keldeo in my team. On other hand, in the second time I battled him, I defeated three of his four Pokémon with Flygon alone... I have no idea why he kept using crunch and rock slide instead of dragon moves in my Pokémon. Anyway, it was the easiest Gym battle up to now, even though I lost once =P

And oh, with Blaziken in my team, Zenzolin and the Shadow Triad were a quite easy too.

Drayden's Pokemon only know Dragon Tail as a Dragon move(Except Altaria who has Dragon Pulse), and that has a -6 Speed Priority. Doesn't have much options. Did Flygon oneshot them? If so then the AI might have known Drayden's Pokemon would get knock out(Or something, not sure if AI is "psychic" or not). Although if it didn't oneshot then it would have made more sense to use Dragon Tail.

[Nyarlathotep]

Drayden's Pokemon only know Dragon Tail as a Dragon move(Except Altaria who has Dragon Pulse), and that has a -6 Speed Priority. Doesn't have much options. Did Flygon oneshot them? If so then the AI might have known Drayden's Pokemon would get knock out(Or something, not sure if AI is "psychic" or not). Although if it didn't oneshot then it would have made more sense to use Dragon Tail.

Actually no. Flygon 2HKO two of his Pokémon and 3HKO Druddigon.
It was like this:

> Flygon used Dragonbreath.
> Druddigon used Crunch
> Flygon used Dragonbreath.
> Druddigon ate the sitrus berry.
> Druddigon used Crunch.
> Flygon used Dragonbreath.

> Flygon used Dragonbreath.
> Altaria was paralyzed
> Altaria can't move blahblah
> Flygon used Dragonbreath.

> Flygon used Dragonbreath.
> Drayden's Flygon used Rock Slide.
> Flygon used Dragonbreath.

> Flygon used Dragonbreath.
> Haxorus used Dragon Tail
> Flygon fainted.

And oh, if I am not mistaken, Druddigon used Dragon Claw in my first match against Drayden.
So he had plenty of dragon moves to use against me.

[Lost Requiem]

I'm currently Grinding like there's no tomorrow before I challenge Drayden. My highest leveled Pokemon is my Level 46 Serperior... I still have my Muk at 41, and I need to get them in the Fifities. I'll trade my team to my white real quick and quickly Audino grind there.

[SasakiThePikachu]

When you guys said that Roxie sings, I thought you meant like speech bubble talk singing.

I did not know you meant actual singing. Oh my freaking god. There are proper audible vocals in a pokemon game.

I literally turned up the volume and ran around thrusting the DS in my family's faces and shrieking 'the gym leader is SINGING!!!'. Happy days

[The Eleventh]

When you guys said that Roxie sings, I thought you meant like speech bubble talk singing.

I did not know you meant actual singing. Oh my freaking god. There are proper audible vocals in a pokemon game.

I literally turned up the volume and ran around thrusting the DS in my family's faces and shrieking 'the gym leader is SINGING!!!'. Happy days

Yes, it is a very nice addition, though the Japanese version is much better. There's no enthusiasm when she sings "Pokémon!", and they also cut the "1, 2, 3, 4!" intro for no apparent reason.

[the1stpkmnfan]

So far I have only beaten 5 of the 8 gym leaders.

Cheren was super annoying in my run of Black 2 (Oshawott and Riolu); had to restart about 5 times. Only took one try to beat him in White 2.
Roxie wasn't as bad, and I don't believe I had trouble with her in both versions.
Burgh: Easy.
Elesa; surprisingly easy. Although I felt lucky in Black 2. Only took one attempt in both Black 2 and White 2. Leafeon was my only team member left in Black 2, when her team had damaged taken. He made it through alive and took down all three! In White 2, Magmar and Trapinch took care of her Pokemon like pancakes. Loved her gym by the way.
Clay: Easy for both versions, although made it out pretty lucky. I got a critical hit and landed Swagger with Krokorok on Excadrill, and she took him out. Everything else (Sandslash and Krokorok) were cake. Same went pretty well in White 2.

I bet Skyla will be a sweep as well. I fear Drayden though. Marlon has me excited because my team will be fully strong by then.

[Endoplasmic Reticulum]

IMO all the gyms are easy in Black 2 except maybe Cheren.

[Nyarlathotep]

Again, they are easy depending of the way you play the game...

[Endoplasmic Reticulum]

Sigh I wish I could play Challenge Mode right off the bat, but I unfortunately don't know anyone else that has beaten Black 2. It's stupid the keys should be allowed to be given over Wifi

[Shneak]

Fought Clay today and he was pretty easy, and my Dewott didn't even get an attack in the battle.

[Shine]

When you guys said that Roxie sings, I thought you meant like speech bubble talk singing.

I did not know you meant actual singing. Oh my freaking god. There are proper audible vocals in a pokemon game.

I literally turned up the volume and ran around thrusting the DS in my family's faces and shrieking 'the gym leader is SINGING!!!'. Happy days

....remember the Village Bridge?

[Shneak]

....remember the Village Bridge?

To be fair, nobody can really decipher what's being said.

[Kanethedragon]

I bet Skyla will be a sweep as well. I fear Drayden though. Marlon has me excited because my team will be fully strong by then.

Depends on your team. For me, all of the gyms up to Skyla were pretty normal, but when I reached Skyla I had only my Genesect left alive and was in the red. My three other pokemon that I've mainly been using with my lvl 100 Dragonite and Milotic being HM slaves and only helping out when some of my pokemon needed training yet were being damaged badly by pokemon 5-10 levels under. Anyways, as for my battle with Skyla, if I remember correctly all my main team were around 29-30. She basically sweeped my Servine, Lucario, and Keldeo. And like I said, it almost ended badly. As for Drayden, for me he was like the rest, but I had all the pokemon I've mainly been using at 50 with my team being Serperior, Lucario, Genesect, Keldeo, and Flygon.

[Bolt the Cat]

To be fair, nobody can really decipher what's being said.

That's because the Village Bridge singing was never translated.