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    Discuss and speculate about the changes regarding the UNOVA REGION for Black 2 and White 2.
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    While the ice seen in CoroCoro did seem to just be something the magazine made to cover up that part of Unova, anyone else think some places actually will be covered in ice? I certainly do. One small thing I noticed is that the webbing blocking Chargestone Cave is gone. Just some small thing, but I still felt like pointing out the small detail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Torpoleon View Post
    While the ice seen in CoroCoro did seem to just be something the magazine made to cover up that part of Unova, anyone else think some places actually will be covered in ice? I certainly do. One small thing I noticed is that the webbing blocking Chargestone Cave is gone. Just some small thing, but I still felt like pointing out the small detail.
    I agree I don't want half the region covered just some of it like around Lacunosa City.

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    Hopefully aswell as the south western part.. we get more areas around the outside of Unova outside of the original cities and towns... Possibly having much more difficult routes too (in terms of how to get around obstacles ect.)


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    Actually, I'm kind of expecting to see more water. We have a beach area with Shizui, there are underwater tunnels, and wetsuits on the characters. Maybe the ice melted in some locations or something, because I'm seeing a definite abundance in water.

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    I'm hope we get some new cities. Cities, not towns.
    8 new cities, if you know what I mean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyarlathotep View Post
    I'm hope we get some new cities. Cities, not towns.
    8 new cities, if you know what I mean.
    There's going to be some new cities. I don't know if this one's a city or town but this one is above castelia wich was under construction before in B/W. There's another city that I think, The poision gym girl is in it.
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    I still think that the ice is fake, and they're just using it to cover up important areas. Aside from that, I think we'll probably be visiting some similar cities (Nimbasa will probably have to poison leader) as well as new ones. Maybe Undella did get a gym, or maybe not. As for the underwater tubes, I honestly think that It replaces Mistralton City. No idea why though...

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    pikachu725 : "I still think that the ice is fake, and they're just using it to cover up important areas."

    Maybe the ice is from a Kyurem form rampage. Remember, in the first games when you reach a certain area in the Giant Chasm, it gets covered in snow so you can access Kyurem. So it might not be too much of a stretch to say that the ice on the new map IS real, and it melts over the course of the story. Just saying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EmboarTyrant View Post
    pikachu725 : "I still think that the ice is fake, and they're just using it to cover up important areas."

    Maybe the ice is from a Kyurem form rampage. Remember, in the first games when you reach a certain area in the Giant Chasm, it gets covered in snow so you can access Kyurem. So it might not be too much of a stretch to say that the ice on the new map IS real, and it melts over the course of the story. Just saying.
    Except that that would mean the ice is covering

    -A bridge
    -A tropical city
    -Hundreds of people and Pokemon
    -Part of a desert

    And none of that seems likely. It's more believable that there is an icy location or two somewhere in Unova, while the ice on the map is serving a different purpose in obscuring areas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grei View Post
    Except that that would mean the ice is covering

    -A bridge
    -A tropical city
    -Hundreds of people and Pokemon
    -Part of a desert

    And none of that seems likely. It's more believable that there is an icy location or two somewhere in Unova, while the ice on the map is serving a different purpose in obscuring areas.
    The ice doesnt make much sense to me, from what everyones saying, the ice isnt real or something, and only like one or two cities have patches of ice in them.
    I believe that everywhere where ice is shown will be at least at some point accessible, and will have ice all over (on buildings, ground, etc.), and will act like winter did in BW, but is permanent


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    Quote Originally Posted by Wulava View Post
    So there are chances that Rattata, Heracross, Scyther, Electabuzz, and Skitty to be in the game?

    Also, you still can't say for certain that it isn't Undella. Shizui's town can still be Undella.
    A place can change significantly. If in you can build cities and finish construction within a two-year time span, you can surely renovate a town in that time span too.
    Your proof is not decisive and conclusive enough.

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    -Where is this boat docked at?

    The only thing that points towards Shizui's gym is the climate. The things that point against Undella outweighs the things that support Undella.

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    It's obvious, the ice is just placed on top to obscure things.

    I really don't think certain areas will be frozen.
    It should be more natural -- Blizzards.

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    What do you guys think of the first city?
    It seems way too small to be called a city, unless we're not seeing all of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pyzirikov View Post
    What do you guys think of the first city?
    It seems way too small to be called a city, unless we're not seeing all of it.
    Compare it with Nimbasa in the map... it has like 4 buildings in the artwork but has many more in-game. And in the scans they show some areas of the city!
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    Quote Originally Posted by pyzirikov View Post
    What do you guys think of the first city?
    It seems way too small to be called a city, unless we're not seeing all of it.
    The Unova map's official artwork only shows the important buildings in that specific area.
    Unlike the old ones where it was very detailed.

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    I meant the close up of the place where you start out.
    Isn't it going to be a city?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pyzirikov View Post
    I meant the close up of the place where you start out.
    Isn't it going to be a city?
    Well it's decently sized, much larger than any of the first towns in previous games. All the roads are paved and there's a pokemon center in it, too.
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    Not spam! Going back to the R/S games, when Kyogre/Groudon escaped to Sootopolis, that left the eastern Hoenn region with endless rain/drought. Maybe in these sequels, something similar happens with Kyurem, which causes the partial freeze of the Unova region, assuming the ice is real...
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMaster327 View Post
    Not spam! Going back to the R/S games, when Kyogre/Groudon escaped to Sootopolis, that left the eastern Hoenn region with endless rain/drought. Maybe in these sequels, something similar happens with Kyurem, which causes the partial freeze of the Unova region, assuming the ice is real...
    Yeah, it's possible (it's also possible it's just hail, but w/e)

    Of course, I'm really curious about this whole thing. I took a close look at the scan a few minutes ago, and I couldn't help but notice that Opelucid happened to be "unfrozen". I just find this intriguing because in BW1, Opelucid was pretty minor, just more epic with being the last gym city :P It would be really cool if it was frozen...

    Oh, and does anyone else think that Chargestone and Mistralton caves look awfully... blue?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMaster327 View Post
    Not spam! Going back to the R/S games, when Kyogre/Groudon escaped to Sootopolis, that left the eastern Hoenn region with endless rain/drought. Maybe in these sequels, something similar happens with Kyurem, which causes the partial freeze of the Unova region, assuming the ice is real...
    I think like many have said that the ice is a cover. Like Wulava said, I do expect Blizzards/Harsh Snowing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kass157 View Post
    I think like many have said that the ice is a cover. Like Wulava said, I do expect Blizzards/Harsh Snowing.
    We should definitely expect a host of Ice Type Pokémon to appear in this game, namely Snover & Abomasnow, if we do get Blizzards and such.

    By the way, looking at the map, Nimbasa City looks pretty different from BW. The locations for the Musical & Subway look like they have revamps and most importantly, there is a building (the one that looks like the top of Prinplup's head) that kind of reminds me of the Battle Factory from Platinum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Torpoleon View Post
    By the way, looking at the map, Nimbasa City looks pretty different from BW. The locations for the Musical & Subway look like they have revamps and most importantly, there is a building (the one that looks like the top of Prinplup's head) that kind of reminds me of the Battle Factory from Platinum.
    Nimbasa is the same. Those buildings are the Stadiums, the Musical, the Battle Subway, the Gym and the Ferris wheel.
    The only addition in the game map is the yellow building besides the Ferris Wheel, and the building on the south entrance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Torpoleon View Post
    there is a building (the one that looks like the top of Prinplup's head) that kind of reminds me of the Battle Factory from Platinum.
    Isn't that how the small stadium looks?

    Overall, Nimbasa and Castelia look pretty much the same, but Driftveil looks really different, with those weird circles near the western edge? And of course Route 4 looks super urbanized, I imagine it might substitute while the Route 9 department store is masked? :P like a giant market?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Narwhal15 View Post
    Isn't that how the small stadium looks?

    Overall, Nimbasa and Castelia look pretty much the same, but Driftveil looks really different, with those weird circles near the western edge? And of course Route 4 looks super urbanized, I imagine it might substitute while the Route 9 department store is masked? :P like a giant market?
    The weird circles in Driftveil are actually craters.
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