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While we're on the topic of routes they should've changed, Route 9 seems like it should've had more done to it. I mean, it's got a department store just sort of thrown into the middle of the route, you'd have thought after two years other buildings would've been developed around it.Originally Posted by Shine
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I agree. Route 9 has just been one of those Routes you pass through and were like "um...k" and that's it. It was very small and didn't have a lot of 'meat' to it, so to say.
Also, with Challenger's Cave as well. I was actually excited to see the changes that they would make to it with the release of Black and White 2, only to find out it was blocked
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You mean like changing the currents' direction? I'd rather they not even mess with that. The original design suits its purpose quite well, really, P2 Laboratory and that one part of Rt. 18 with the Double Grass are both appropriately difficult to access, so it's fine. The only part I can see changing is them reversing the way you travel through Rt. 18, and even then, it'd be too minor a change and too difficult to implement to be worth it.
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Exactly, it, along with Route 5, 11 and 16 seem like they're only filler routes, and nothing more. Although, Route 11 isn't as bad as other three IMO.
There wasn't really a whole lot going on in it originally, so I'm not that fussed that it's gone.Also, with Challenger's Cave as well. I was actually excited to see the changes that they would make to it with the release of Black and White 2, only to find out it was blocked
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Blind beliefs that lead us: "Trust in what we can perceive with senses".
Thousands minds that reflect our tendency to flatten layers of knowledge,
demonstrating that we're just wasting our time.
Look above us, sky is just a fragment and shows us how we're nothing more than ants.
Human weakness is what we hide, overwhelming celebration of our fault .
Entwined with our fears of being in your hands, we're deaf to the universe that guides us.
How can we enhance our thin perception of every small wonder hiding behind simple shapes?
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Well it's the fact that they didn't improve it when there was so much adding they could have done
I'd say good thing they shut it down but I'm sad they couldn't just make it better instead
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Does anyone think that the NPC breeders are incredibly annoying? Every time I enter an area and walk in front of them they insist on fighting me...I wouldn't mind it so much if their pokemon were high leveled, but fighting their weak level 30 pokemon for a measly 200exp points is just a huge waste of time.
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Yeah, they can be pretty annoying. But the best solution is to just avoid them.
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There are times when I'll accidentally run in front of them or I just forget and it's one of the most frustrating things ever -____-
Which brings me to my next point:
Why do they keep bringing back the 'ledge' guy that teaches you how to hop ledges?
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The same reason they tell you what a Pokédex is and why you should collect badges every game and how to catch Pokémon?
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The same reason they teach you how to catch a pokemon at the start of every game. For the noobs.
I do wish you could skip things like the catching tutorial. Alternatively they could give the information in the local trainer school. I know it only accounts for 1 minute of my life, but it be nice to have a shortcut for those who have played before.
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That's not always possible unless you use Fly. Some of them are completely unavoidable (notably the ones on Black 2 Rt. 4 and Rt. 11). IDK what went on with the whole breeder rematch thing, but it's definitely something they shouldn't have left the way it was.
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The Route 4 one on Black 2 is avoidable, just walk on the far left, right next to the walls.
Also, all of them who does spin around, only spin to one side.
Usually there's an empty path right next to them where you can go through without having them seeing you.
However, the one in Lostlorn Forest requires you to use Surf first if you want to avoid him by walking on the empty path right next to him.
And for the one in Route 7, just go through the balancing beam instead of using the road.
The Route 11 one is indeed unavoidable, though.
She doesn't spin around, and the width of the bridge still falls under her range, so walking on the farthest side of the bridge doesn't help.......
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Ya I'm aware. I remember the 1st time I learned to jump those ledges. Talk about exciting
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No you don't. You can avoid him without Surf by waiting for him to turn right, then passing in front of him and walking to his left.
Yeah, she's annoyingly placed. I'm glad she's rematchable, though, she's good for training against Drayden.
Anyway, all of this illustrates exactly why I find the whole Breeder rematch thing annoying. Usually when you're done with an area, you're supposed to feel relatively safe coming back to it. But with all of these Breeders everywhere, you don't, you're constantly trying to avoid them to keep from having to battle them. It's especially bad if say all of your Pokemon are low on health or otherwise weak for some reason, and you need to get to a Pokemon Center without Fly, if you end up getting forced into a battle that you can't avoid at that point, you're screwed. It's a waste of time, HP, PP, and sometimes items or money just to get through an area you've already been though before. I think if they insist on doing this again in the future, they should make them easily avoidable so that when you're passing through the area again you don't have to stop and slow down every time you get close to them. Because that's annoying.
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Sorry, I meant if you want to avoid him right away, instead of having to wait until he turn around.
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Both of those Breeders are avoidable. Just walk past them on the opposite edge of the path.
I've never fought the Route 11 Breeder, actually.
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Fair enough, but I'd still rather not having them clutter up the main path and force you into a battle unprepared, which is equally annoying.
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Hmm, I need to check again, then. I'm very sure the Route 11 one is not avoidable......As for the Route 4 one, I already mentioned that it is indeed avoidable.
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Route 11 is not. But fortunately there's not much there to go back for anyway
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