Electabuzz/Magmar were version exclusives in Red/Blue and FireRed/LeafGreen. Then they were available in DPPt by putting their respective game in the GBA slot. And now in this game, they switched them from the game they would normally be in (normally Elekid would be in Black 2 and Magby would be in White 2). There's also the fact that they received baby forms and later evolutions at the same time, and have always been in the same regional dex. They're counterparts in every sense of the word.
Personally, I've always thought Camerupt/Wailord to be kind of opposites, with one learning eruption and the other water spout, and coming from the same gen, even though they weren't version exclusives. So I guess they just added Grumpig in there because they wanted another Hoenn Pokemon, and it's catchable in the same region as Numel in Hoenn, and made Wailord in both games. Just my 2˘ though.
As for Grumpig... I don't think it has a counterpart, but Swalot does kinda fit as a counterpart I guess... But it's not even available anyway.
Yes, OK. This... supports the fact that Riolu can't be caught in Sinnoh.The only reason Riolu isn't catchable in DPPt is because it was a design decision, they decided that Riolu is too rare to allow it to be catchable.
Likely? There's absolutely nothing to indicate so. Saying that there are areas of Sinnoh we just didn't visit is stupid. That can be said for any issue that arises. Why can't we stay with factual information?It's likely that Riley and Cynthia got their in some area of Sinnoh that for whatever reason we can't access, much like how we couldn't access SW Unova, Reversal Mountain, and Humilau City in BW1.
I think GF pre-plans certain Pokemon to be that way. They know about it but we, as the players, don't.
It's all about speculation on our behalf.
Ok just stop. Let's look at the facts:
-Yes, Riolu cannot be caught in game and only obtained from an egg. But that doesn't prove s#!+. How about Arceus? We can't catch Arceus in game, well legit games. If you just look at a plain map of the Sinnoh Regions, we do NOT explore every single part of it. There are pokedex entries for many pokemon that say they live somewhere but are hard to find. Who says that there aren't Riolu/Lucario living on Iron Island, but they just don't like people.
-Riolu being native to Unova. Sure, it could be. But it could still easily be native to Sinnoh. A pokemon cannot be region-locked into being native. How about Oddish, Geodude, many other multi-regional pokemon? They can all stake claims in being native to all these other regions.
Also why would GF do something stupid like that. They gave a Lucario to Maylene, Riley and Cynthia. It's also stated many times all over that Riolu and Lucario are rare to find. So can we just end this?
I don't like how they made it where you have to trade to see all the Unova Dex pokemon.
I'm also curious on why Zangoose and Seviper arn't version exclusive