Astral Charm Owner
One of the unique things about Floccesy Ranch flavorwise is that it houses all those Mareep. If Mareep or Flaaffy were able to be found elsewhere, it'd sort of ruin what Floccesy Ranch is known for in the game, per se.Originally Posted by Bolt the Cat
As for Route 16, maybe Pinsir and Heracross as version exclusive Pokémon (5% shaking grass encounter rate)?
Bringing the Thunder
Mareep isn't the only thing Floccesy Ranch is known for. Putting it somewhere else won't "ruin" Floccesy Ranch.
Astral Charm Owner
What else is it known for (in the games, not by players)? Wild Riolu doesn't count.
Bringing the Thunder
It's not about which Pokemon are there. The areas don't need to be "know for" any particular Pokemon living there. But if you must know, it's known for being a huge ranch on a recently settled patch of land.
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I remember reading somewhere that part of what made Floccesy Ranch so special was the fact that it housed free-roaming, 'tame' Mareep. (Pardon the oxymoron)
Astral Charm Owner
I'd agree that an area doesn't have to be known for any particular wild Pokémon that reside there. But one of the things that Floccesy Ranch is known for in the game is the Mareep, something that would make the Ranch less special if there were Mareep elsewhere.
Maybe on Route 20, but anywhere else, eh...
Bringing the Thunder
Did they ever actually say anything about that in game, or are they basing that on the fact that there are a bunch of Mareep roaming around the area? Because that doesn't mean much.
It's known for a lot of things. There's also Lillipup and Riolu.
Astral Charm Owner
Do people say that Floccesy Ranch is populated with a bunch of Riolu or Lillipup in the game? I don't think so, but if they do, let me know.
Bringing the Thunder
No, but that's not the point. The point is that you can't say that certain areas are "known" for certain Pokemon because they're common and/or exclusive to the area.
Astral Charm Owner
Why not?
I see what you say about the Mareep. If the game says that Floccesy Ranch is known for keeping a bunch of Mareep, that doesn't necessarily mean that Mareep can't be anywhere else. But it just doesn't seem right, in my opinion, that Mareep should just be in places like Route 5 or Route 16 just because the statement doesn't specify whether or not the Ranch is the only place that houses wild Mareep.
Bringing the Thunder
Where did you get the idea that I think Mareep should only be on Rt. 5 and 16? No, I think Mareep should stay in Floccesy Ranch, but they should also add Flaafy to Rt. 16.
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I would have to agree. Flaafy should be available somewhere in the game. I don't think it would diminish Floccesy Ranch's value @ all. However, if Mareep were available elsewhere, it would imo.
But to have Flaafy available elsewhere would definitely be a good addition
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If I could put my two cents in...I can see why people think Flocessy Ranch is known for Mareep. After all, there are overworld sprites of Mareep in the area. There are several, and they stick out, kind of, in my eyes at least, making Mareep the trademark of the ranch. I don't think it should be found elsewhere, there are many areas in all generations of Pokemon that has a Pokemon exclusive only to that area. A couple that come to mind are Feebas and Unown. Also, in Pokemon Platinum, Croagunk seemed to be a mascot of sorts for the Great Marsh. Yes, he could be found in the surrounding area, but he still kind of stuck around there. What I'm getting at, is that if they were found elsewhere in the game, they wouldn't be special. So if you don't want to keep it around forever to evolve it, just wait until after you beat the game and fight a bunch of Audino, and box him. Simple.
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Astral Charm Owner
I never said that you wanted Mareep to only be on Route 5 and 16. I never minded having Flaaffy on Route 16 mechanically, I just mind that it lowers the uniqueness of Floccesy Ranch for me.
Bringing the Thunder
Again, there are other Pokemon unique to Floccesy Ranch, they don't have to make Mareep exclusive to that area.
Astral Charm Owner
I don't think the game emphasizes the uniqueness of Riolu like they do the uniqueness of Mareep.
Mareep are certainly special to Floccesy Ranch in a way that other Pokémon unique to the area aren't. Why else would there be Mareep that the player can interact with in the area?
Bringing the Thunder
They're not that special. Just because you see them in the overworld doesn't mean they're special enough to only be put in that area. Which Pokemon should be put in which areas is a design decision, anyway, they can't put Pokemon wherever they feel like it.
Astral Charm Owner
Fair enough, but I still think that overworld sprites for them make them special enough.
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I agree with that.
The over-world sprites are the defining point for me
Astral Charm Owner
Right, because if there wouldn't have been any other reason to put them in there if they weren't one of the unique things about the place.
Anyway, this is less of a flavor or canon question and more of a mechanical question, but would it have been alright if the wild Pokémon encountered, say, on the first route, depended on what starter you chose?
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