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    Default Tornadus, Thundurus, and Landorus Sacred Beast Forme

    In case you don't know, these are the new forms in BW2. I can see Landorus usage increasing since now he can OHKO Gliscor from full HP with HP Ice. Thundurus with increased SpAtk.. oh god for Ubers. Tornadus I can't really see a use, since he's SR weak and a limited support movepool.


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    Landorus and Thunderus get an epic boost, but Tornadus' new form is utterly useless. What good will it do with better defenses? Tank? Wall stuff? Lolno.
    Quote Originally Posted by x_vandslaux_x View Post
    I can see Landorus usage increasing since now he can OHKO Gliscor from full HP with HP Ice.
    You're assuming its Attack will go up, but its Special Attack will stay the same. Knowing Nintendo/Gamefreak, some stat will drop, we just don't know which one(s).


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    Well, you also have to factor in: He get's Bulk Up, has a sizeable attack as it is, and flying is a toss-up defensive typing. Resisted fighting, bug, grass, and immune to ground. While being weak to BoltBeam & Rock. Also, you're saying Tornadus won't be able to be a wall because of it's typing. Togekiss. It's a monstrous wall. If it was ice that'd be different. At any rate, I think Tornadus will be good.

    Move tutors may give him a better support set.
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    I wouldn't be judging things yet. Some have said these could end up with their Hidden Abilities(Defiant and Sheer Force). Plus there will need to be a stat drop for some of their stats.

    Landorus- SPAtk drop
    Thundurus- Speed drop
    Tornadus- Attacking stats drop

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    Do we have any info regarding their stat changes or are we simply assuming???

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    If Landorus Beast Forme gets increased attack and has the same or better speed, then he might be going to ubers.
    Yep we should ban baton pass, and weather too. Oh and Trick Room, I'm tired of having to worry about Trick Room all the time. Just ban the move Trick Room, and prankster, it's broken. Ban all status moves on prankster users, they're too cheap. Oh and ban Probopass to it's so cheap. Just ban everything except Magikarp with splash.
    Well, actually Blaziken isn't really Uber because some people whined about how they were getting owned by it. I mean, it doesn't stand a chance in the Uber enviroment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by irock245 View Post
    If Landorus Beast Forme gets increased attack and has the same or better speed, then he might be going to ubers.
    ^This. It already has great att and speed, iif it gets higher it would be too broken.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sietse23 View Post
    ^This. It already has great att and speed, iif it gets higher it would be too broken.
    Unless it's defenses fell down to Tornadus's current range. Than it'd be frail enough to stay OU. Which, is a possibility.
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    Quote Originally Posted by irock245 View Post
    If Landorus Beast Forme gets increased attack and has the same or better speed, then he might be going to ubers.
    How do you know his speed with increase or stay the same? We still don't have the raw base stats. All we know is what's going to be increased, but no information as to what's going to be decreased.
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    If Tornadus keeps prankster and get good defenses and roost (can be useful to stall stone edges) subroost can be good


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    I think Tornadus will be pretty good. Imagine they suck out some Attack and Special Attack.

    Say both offensive stats are lower to 100. Maybe 10 will be placed in Speed (+10 speed seems gamefreak-realistic) and 20 in both defenses.

    That leaves us with a 79/100/90/100/90/121 Pokemon. That's about as tough as Gyarados with about as much offense as Infernape. Oh, and a ton of speed. While I don't know if Specs will work as well Tornadus could be pretty scary running a mixed Life Orb or Bulk Up set. Also we don't know about move tutors, ability or general movepool changes either. Shaymin Sky form wouldn't be nearly as horrific if Air Slash / Earth Power / Serene Grace weren't suddenly added. Maybe Tornadus will get Quiver Dance or Dragon Dance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Harvest View Post
    I think Tornadus will be pretty good. Imagine they suck out some Attack and Special Attack.

    Say both offensive stats are lower to 95. Maybe 10 will be placed in Speed (+10 speed seems gamefreak-realistic) and 20 in both defenses.

    That leaves us with a 79/100/90/100/100/121 Pokemon. That's about as tough as Gyarados with about as much offense as Infernape. Oh, and a ton of speed. While I don't know if Specs will work as well Tornadus could be pretty scary running a mixed Life Orb or Bulk Up set. Also we don't know about move tutors, ability or general movepool changes either. Shaymin Sky form wouldn't be nearly as horrific if Air Slash / Earth Power / Serene Grace weren't suddenly added. Maybe Tornadus will get Quiver Dance or Dragon Dance.
    It would be the ideal Bulky Offense pokemon if it did. But, even if it doesn't, it might be one of the few flying type walls that can reliably enough counter Terrakion, which will give it use over... Sigilyph, which it probably outclassed anyway.

    Your stats aren't realistic though. They'll give it 500000000000000000000000000000 Speed, which it doesn't need because of prankstar, +1 in each defence and made each attack stat negative. Sounds more gamefreak like.

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    Ok, forget the competitive aspect for 1 sec







    What the **** are these. Are these Legendary beast spinoffs? I mean, Kyruem formes are already ugly as ****, then they go ahead and do this. What. The. ****.

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    Landorus form looks like decreased Speed to me.


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    Idk, Landorus's form is one of my favorites. Its a Manticore! Come on.. a lion-scorpion.

    Tornadus is ok looking. Sort of like a weird quetzalcoatl-style thing.

    I have no idea what Thundurus is supposed to be. Looks awful.

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    No, they all look like ***, sorry BH

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    The new Landorus form is awesome, I like the design and if it has great stas it'll be amazing (:
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    Well at least each of them have now an unique form and not copy pasta like before.

    And thunderus will have different stats than tornadus..

    if thunderus don't have prankster in that form will it be a OU form?


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    Tornadus's new form sorta reminds me of Tomohawk from the CAP Project. Of course, if it gets decent boosts to its defenses, Roost via tutor, and keeps Prankster, it might not be all that different. What I really hope doesn't happen is that each of these new forms will be the DW form of the respective genie. Landorus might like an Atk boost, but it might be put to waste if it's forced to run Sheer Force instead of Sand Force. That will also mean that the anticipated special Sheer Force Landorus sets might not work out like some people thought they might. In addition, I'm sure Tornadus and Thundurus's new forms would appreciate Prankster a lot more than Defiant. I guess we'll just have to see.

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    I dont like the look. but the stat increase is cool exept for tornadus. Useless
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    This is almost becoming a speculation thread o.O
    But frankly, I really dislike Landorus. Yeah, it's cool that it's a tiger-thing and all that, but come on, the hair looks ridiculous on it. Take that off, and he looks like a freaking boss.
    Don't know what they were thinking with Thunderus. Sea serpent? Those don't have cloud-butts o-o
    Tornadus looks like a peacock c:


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    Caught on, Landorus and Tornadus looks awsome!!
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    If you look closely on Tornadus and Thudurus' navels, you can see some red thing and a blue thing.
    Red Thing = Ruby
    Blue Thing = Sapphire
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    Anyway, out of all seriousness, my speculation for THundurus is something like this.

    HP stays the same.
    Attack is decreased by 30
    Defense increased by 10
    SpAtt increased by 20
    SpDef increased 20
    Spe decreased by 20

    It becomes a slightly bulkier 79/85/80/145/100/91. I feel that this thing would be even deadlier than the original Thundurus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eaglehawk View Post
    Red Thing = Ruby
    Blue Thing = Sapphire
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    Might want to take a look closely at Landorus, it's yellow

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    Quote Originally Posted by rocky505 View Post
    I wouldn't be judging things yet. Some have said these could end up with their Hidden Abilities(Defiant and Sheer Force). Plus there will need to be a stat drop for some of their stats.

    Landorus- SPAtk drop
    Thundurus- Speed drop
    Tornadus- Attacking stats drop
    I agree with the first one but its more likely that Thundurus well lose a lot of it's atk and Tornadus well likely lose a bit of it's atk and s.atk but it might lose a lot of speed instead.
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