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    Quote Originally Posted by SmeargleRocks View Post
    Timid / modest
    EVs 252HP, 252Defense, 4Spd / 4Sp.Att
    Item: sitris berry / petaya berry
    Fiery dance / fire blast / heat wave
    Bug buzz / hurricane
    Quiver dance
    HP rock / water
    Not sure how the petaya berry is available in black and white
    No, it isn't. But when it is released, I can imagine it and Swarm when released as well. That's pretty insane powered Bug Buzz.


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    Volcorona
    Timid
    EVs 252HP, 252Defense, 4Spd / 4Sp.Att

    Fiery dance / fire blast / heat wave
    Bug buzz / hurricane
    Quiver dance
    HP rock / water

    I meant to add moring sun instead of hurricane

    Larvesta
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    EV's 252Attack, 252Spd, 4HP / Defense
    Item: leftovers
    Flareblitz / Flame charge / Flamewheel
    Bugbite / u-turn
    Aerial ace / acrobatics
    Wild charge
    Other options for moves Zen headbutt, facade, return
    Zen headbutt has coverage for fighting and poison pokemon
    Facade don't use it because Larvesta doesn't do well with status issues
    Return you could use if you have max happiness on it

    Only use Larvesta in a lower tier unless you have it holding a focus sash... No don't use it in anything but lower tiers it will die and suffer if you do
    If you're using flareblitz it can be a pain to get it to lv100 but also be worth it
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    This is a set you probably should never use on a Volcorona
    Adamant
    EV's 252 attack, 252Spd, 4 defense
    Flareblitz / flamecharge
    Bugbite / u-turn
    Poisonjab / u-turn
    Fly
    Not much to see here, not really a pokemon to be used as a physical sweeper this set doesn't even have hidden power so its not worth it



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    Will of fire
    Timid / modest
    EV's 252 Sp.atk, 252Spd, 4defense
    Item: Power Herb
    Morning sun, quiver dance
    Solarbeam
    Heatwave / fiery dance
    HP flying / bug buzz



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    Volcorona
    Timid
    EVs 252HP, 252Defense, 4Spd / 4Sp.Att

    Fiery dance / fire blast / heat wave
    Bug buzz / hurricane
    Quiver dance
    HP rock / water
    For partners I'd go steelix / ferrothorn as physical switchins to cover for its huge rock weakness
    I meant to add moring sun instead of hurricane

    Larvesta
    Adamant
    EV's 252Attack, 252Spd, 4HP / Defense
    Item: leftovers
    Flareblitz / flame charge
    Bugbite / u-turn
    Aerial ace / acrobatics
    Wild charge
    Other options for moves Zen headbutt, facade, return
    Zen headbutt has coverage for fighting and poison pokemon
    Facade don't use it because Larvesta doesn't do well with status issues
    Return you could use if you have max happiness on it

    Only use Larvesta in a lower tier unless you have it holding a focus sash... No don't use it in anything bit lower tiers it will die



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    I am open to suggestions for Volcorona if anyone else has any ideas



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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragrath View Post
    Well you are right about Tornadus is a big threat but isn't Thunderus an Uber? Will admit I forgot about Heatran. And can't we basically say only a taunter who resists Volcarona and is faster than it works? I think that makes everyone happy(except Volcarona)
    Volcarona looks powerful enough to deal with it. Yeah, we can't say only faster taunters work, because it could run a non-status move set, which then annoys the foe. Basically taunters, rock types, physical moves and special walls work perfectly, eg blissley, gigalith is surprisingly strong due to sturdy, and volcarona's lack of multi turn moves. Mantine walls it nicely, then fights with flying and water moves
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    Evolite Rhydon and Rhyperior are just bulky enough to take a +1 bug buzz or fiery dance and retaliate with a rock type attack as well (especially in sand)...well, from my experiences anyways

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    Quote Originally Posted by MetalCrow View Post
    Evolite Rhydon and Rhyperior are just bulky enough to take a +1 bug buzz or fiery dance and retaliate with a rock type attack as well (especially in sand)...well, from my experiences anyways
    252SpAtk +1 Volcarona (Neutral) Bug Buzz vs 252HP/0SpDef Eviolite Rhydon (Neutral): 68% - 80% (283 - 334 HP). Guaranteed 2HKO.

    It checks it, but it's definitely not a counter. And for Rhyperior...
    252SpAtk +1 Volcarona (Neutral) Bug Buzz in Sun vs 252HP/0SpDef Solid Rock Rhyperior (Neutral): 84% - 99% (366 - 432 HP). Guaranteed 2HKO.

    Those two are not worth using if it's purely to stop Volc. They can work in sand I guess, but there are more reliable pokemon to do the job.
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    If a swampert could take a hit from volcarona it would OHKO volcarona with a waterfall, but swampert isn't OU.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zachmac View Post
    252SpAtk +1 Volcarona (Neutral) Bug Buzz vs 252HP/0SpDef Eviolite Rhydon (Neutral): 68% - 80% (283 - 334 HP). Guaranteed 2HKO.

    It checks it, but it's definitely not a counter. And for Rhyperior...
    252SpAtk +1 Volcarona (Neutral) Bug Buzz in Sun vs 252HP/0SpDef Solid Rock Rhyperior (Neutral): 84% - 99% (366 - 432 HP). Guaranteed 2HKO.

    Those two are not worth using if it's purely to stop Volc. They can work in sand I guess, but there are more reliable pokemon to do the job.
    Why use Rhydron without Sandstorm? Nothing wrong with Special Defense EVs too. With Special Defense EVs and Sandstorm neither Pokemon is 2HKOed by even +1 Bug Buzz. That's a clear counter... Not that either Pokemon is very good in OU, but it IS a counter I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victini is cool View Post
    If a swampert could take a hit from volcarona it would OHKO volcarona with a waterfall, but swampert isn't OU.
    SO? really if something isn't OU doesn't mean it can't be used swampert was OU a few mounths ago it still can be used in OU.

    swampert is a good counters resist fire and can isn't 2Hkoed


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilan View Post
    SO? really if something isn't OU doesn't mean it can't be used swampert was OU a few mounths ago it still can be used in OU.

    swampert is a good counters resist fire and can isn't 2Hkoed
    Swamper and the other water ground types counter ferociously. Some sets are even rainy teams, and all of them know rock slide, so there is no worries. Any sturdy rock types ruin it as it can't OHKO them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by philzone View Post
    Swamper and the other water ground types counter ferociously. Some sets are even rainy teams, and all of them know rock slide, so there is no worries. Any sturdy rock types ruin it as it can't OHKO them.
    but you lose 2 members of the team to do it (the one who get killed by volcarona and 1HP sturdy pokemon) and rock moves might miss.

    And stealth rock breaks sturdy.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Harvest View Post
    Why use Rhydron without Sandstorm? Nothing wrong with Special Defense EVs too. With Special Defense EVs and Sandstorm neither Pokemon is 2HKOed by even +1 Bug Buzz. That's a clear counter... Not that either Pokemon is very good in OU, but it IS a counter I guess.
    I agree, Rhydon/perior are most at home in the sand, where they're only needed for punching a couple of holes in walla& sweepers like volcarona...anyways, it's times like these that show the necessity for coverage moves is extremely important for those times where a sweep may be cut short by some random lower tier threat...yuh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilan View Post
    but you lose 2 members of the team to do it (the one who get killed by volcarona and 1HP sturdy pokemon) and rock moves might miss.

    And stealth rock breaks sturdy.
    But not if they are the first pokemon. Also, trick room users can cause havoc if set up. Best option is for dusknoir to set up, as it is neutral to most of the common moves. Then its done for.

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    True and swampert is a very powerful pokemon and as I said could easily counter volcarona especially the rainy volcarona.

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    A heatran with max attack could OHKO with a stone edge or max Sp.attack and OHKO with ancient power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victini is cool View Post
    A heatran with max attack could OHKO with a stone edge or max Sp.attack and OHKO with ancient power.
    Most Heatran won't usually have AncientPower because it isn't strong enough. But Heatran can still attack with Fire-type attacks because Volcarona doesn't have Flash Fire and because its second typing makes Fire types do neutral damage. Heatran can also Stealth Rock and Roar away Volcarona, making it easier to kill later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by philzone View Post
    Love the set. Not one that has been repeated over 1000 times, and also you cover the physical weakness somewhat. Switch whirlwind for quiver dance, then you have something that has walling capabilities. Use fiery dance, as then most steels can't wall you. Use sub and morning sun together, as then you heal the sub damage
    Well the idea is to spread burns on pokemon. I tested and works a little wonders as one of my foes switched in Tyranitar and I burned it. Sub is nice for avoiding damage from Rock slide/stone edge but must be careful of Cloyster. One counter I can think is Unaware Quagsire under sandstorm with EV's placed in Hp and Sp defense

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    Anyone know why Larvesta and Volcorona can't learn attract like the ferroseed evo line?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duranteater View Post
    Well the idea is to spread burns on pokemon. I tested and works a little wonders as one of my foes switched in Tyranitar and I burned it. Sub is nice for avoiding damage from Rock slide/stone edge but must be careful of Cloyster. One counter I can think is Unaware Quagsire under sandstorm with EV's placed in Hp and Sp defense
    Sorry to inform you, but quagsire struggles against volacarona pretty bad (in reality) & a burn is the second worst for poor quagsire simply due to it cutting down what precious little attacking stats quagsire has...& only rock types get a special defense boost in the sand
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    Quote Originally Posted by Victini is cool View Post
    True and swampert is a very powerful pokemon and as I said could easily counter volcarona especially the rainy volcarona.
    I'm not sure if it can take a Hurricane to well, but it certainly is a counter. Gastrodon, Jellicent, and Vappy can't do a thing against it, even if they have type matchup. Vappy can phaze, but that's only a temporary solution. Swampert, on the other hand, can take advantage of Volc's weaker defense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zachmac View Post
    I'm not sure if it can take a Hurricane to well, but it certainly is a counter. Gastrodon, Jellicent, and Vappy can't do a thing against it, even if they have type matchup. Vappy can phaze, but that's only a temporary solution. Swampert, on the other hand, can take advantage of Volc's weaker defense.
    Jellicent is resistant to both STABs and is a special wall. Swampert should stand to a hurricane. A phazing tyranitar is strong, and it can stealth rock it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by philzone View Post
    Jellicent is resistant to both STABs and is a special wall. Swampert should stand to a hurricane. A phazing tyranitar is strong, and it can stealth rock it.
    Swampert could also set up stealth rocks from tm 76 was it back in 4th gen.

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