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    Quote Originally Posted by _Taidow_ View Post
    Iris and Cilan can't be in the league as we have seen in every episode that they aren't collecting badges.
    Using that same logic we can conclude that Georgia certainly won't be at the league either.

    And we all know why Burgundy won that badge.

    Quote Originally Posted by _Taidow_ View Post
    So did Barry. (except for beating Ash's Gible, same with Burgundy beating Chili's Pansear)
    Except Barry won some battles in the Twinleaf Festival. We can't say the same for Burgundy since it wasn't even implied she won any other battles. Plus, with Barry, we were actually told he won some gym battles and that he was collecting badges.

    Quote Originally Posted by _Taidow_ View Post
    It wouldn't really be another tournament as those only lasted 4 episodes each.
    The league might last 8-9 episodes.

    Episode 1: Arrival and possibly the first preliminary matches (all 1 vs 1) quick battle scenes.
    Episode 2: Top 64
    Episode 3: Top 32
    Episode 4: Top 16
    Episode 5-6: Top 8
    Episode 7: Top 4
    Episode 8: Top 2
    Well, if you think that would work out.

    I personally only want Ash's rivals at the League.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pokemaniac24 View Post
    Since when was Conway underrated? I would think people would impressed with hum instantly after seeing him get second place with Dawn in the Tag Battle Tournament.
    Nobody cared about him as a character; they were just pleased that he helped Dawn in the Hearthome City tournament. I don't think anyone actually believed he would participate in the Sinnoh League, much less become a strong opponent who would give Ash a hard time. Burgundy's the same way. People don't care about her character, but they appreciate the fact that she's there simply because she makes other characters look good by comparison. I kid you not, someone once said that they hated Burgundy but liked that she "existed."

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    Quote Originally Posted by The 4th Kira View Post
    Nobody cared about him as a character;
    As far as I remember, people loved Conway, his strategies, personality and stalkerish gag.

    Unlike Burgundy, he actually proved himself as a capable trainer.


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    saying Burgundy got her badge because she wanted revenge on Cilan is stupid. She was on a badge quest before she met Cilan and we have seen nothing to say she's stopped

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    Quote Originally Posted by Janovy View Post
    Using that same logic we can conclude that Georgia certainly won't be at the league either.
    Why? We're not following her travels. We see Iris and Cilan in every episode. [/QUOTE]

    And we all know why Burgundy won that badge.
    She still won it.

    Except Barry won some battles in the Twinleaf Festival. We can't say the same for Burgundy since it wasn't even implied she won any other battles. Plus, with Barry, we were actually told he won some gym battles and that he was collecting badges.
    I doubt she got Dewott, Stoutland, Sawsbuck, and Darmanitan without winning anything and losing all the time.

    Well, if you think that would work out.

    I personally only want Ash's rivals at the League.
    If that's what you want.


    Quote Originally Posted by AceDetective View Post
    saying Burgundy got her badge because she wanted revenge on Cilan is stupid. She was on a badge quest before she met Cilan and we have seen nothing to say she's stopped
    This. ^

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    Quote Originally Posted by AceDetective View Post
    saying Burgundy got her badge because she wanted revenge on Cilan is stupid. She was on a badge quest before she met Cilan and we have seen nothing to say she's stopped
    So let's say she WAS on a badge quest.

    She loses against Cilan and decides to become a Sommelier? What?


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    It makes me wonder what would have happened if she lost to Chili at the Gym....:/

    And according to Cabernet she became a Sommelier because Dento said some mean things about her and Oshawott so she wanted to prove him wrong. Not because he simply beat her, I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Janovy View Post
    So let's say she WAS on a badge quest.

    She loses against Cilan and decides to become a Sommelier? What?
    She said she became a Connaisseuse, but she never said she stopped her badge collecting either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 00poke_maniac View Post
    It makes me wonder what would have happened if she lost to Chili at the Gym....:/
    I think she wouldn't have become a character she is right now.

    Cilan probably used his fancy words and irritated the hell out of her.

    Quote Originally Posted by _Taidow_ View Post
    She said she became a Connaisseuse, but she never said she stopped her badge collecting either.
    I'm sorry, but I can't find such character serious.

    Am I supposed to take a crazy, revenge-driven person as a serious competition for Ash? God no.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Janovy View Post
    So let's say she WAS on a badge quest.

    She loses against Cilan and decides to become a Sommelier? What?
    no reason she can't do 2 things. look at nando

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    Quote Originally Posted by Janovy View Post
    Cilan probably used his fancy words and irritated the hell out of her.
    I don't think it irritated her as much as she misunderstood them. XD

    Anyway I think she has potential to appear at the league..but she probably wouldn't get too far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 00poke_maniac View Post
    Anyway I think she has potential to appear at the league..but she probably wouldn't get too far.
    If she does appear (and I pray to God she doesn't), I hope she loses in round 1. Revenge-driven persons deserve nothing else.

    I want a normal League with most of the screentime focused on some nice battles.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Janovy View Post
    If she does appear (and I pray to God she doesn't), I hope she loses in round 1. Revenge-driven persons deserve nothing else.
    So basically she's the new Harley and Ursula?

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Taidow_ View Post
    So basically she's the new Harley and Ursula?
    Oh God no, they're so much better than her.

    Plus, Harley and Ursula didn't show up at Sinnoh League. Also, how can you even compare them? Ursula didn't lose to Dawn and then decide to become a Coordinator and neither did Harley.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Janovy View Post
    Oh God no, they're so much better than her.

    Plus, Harley and Ursula didn't show up at Sinnoh League.
    Harley wasn't in Sinnoh. Nor was he a "Trainer" same with Ursula. Besides Unova only has one major competition. There's no option for Grand Festivals and such.

    Also. How are they batter? They were just as equally revenge driven towards May and Dawn as Burgundy is to Cilan.

    Of course the majority of Unovians who want to battle will enter the league. There's nothing else for them to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Janovy View Post
    Oh God no, they're so much better than her.

    Plus, Harley and Ursula didn't show up at Sinnoh League. Also, how can you even compare them? Ursula didn't lose to Dawn and then decide to become a Coordinator and neither did Harley.
    Harley and Ursula were both sort of sassy and revengeful. Well Harley was anyway. XD
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    Quote Originally Posted by _Taidow_ View Post
    Of course the majority of Unovians who want to battle will enter the league. There's nothing else for them to do.
    Except Burgundy wants to defeat Cilan and become a rank A Connoisseuse.

    Her goal isn't to win the League.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 00poke_maniac View Post
    Harley and Ursula were both sort of sassy and revengeful. Well Harley was anyway. XD
    And to think all that started with some cookies XD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Janovy View Post
    Except Burgundy wants to defeat Cilan and become a rank A Connoisseuse.

    Her goal isn't to win the League.
    it could be a secondary goal.Personally i don't think she will enter the league but she was at one stage collecting badges so it's possible .She might enter to prove she is a master sommalier or something like that i suppose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Janovy View Post
    Except Burgundy wants to defeat Cilan and become a rank A Connoisseuse.

    Her goal isn't to win the League.
    Thy don't have to particularly state it. I think she's still working toward that but getting revenge on Cilan is also important.

    In that case why do you want Stephan to be in the league when he hasn't expressed any desire to enter the league as well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pokemonsquared View Post
    And to think all that started with some cookies XD
    Cabernet actually appears sane compared to Harley. XD Though Harley's flashback is kind of similar. May was shown to be the bad girl who ate his snacks while Dento was shown to be the villain who said her relationship with Oshawott was "poor, very poor. Go dry your eyes out and try again *que Okabe laugh*"
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    Quote Originally Posted by 00poke_maniac View Post
    Cabernet actually appears sane compared to Harley. XD Though Harley's flashback is kind of similar. May was shown to be the bad girl who ate his snacks while Dento was shown to be the villain who said her relationship with Oshawott was "poor, very poor. Go dry your eyes out and try again *que Okabe laugh*"
    wasn't that a lie that Harley told team rocket to make them trust him?

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    I'm going to count the possible League rivals:
    Characters that we know that make into the League: Ash and Trip (almopst confirmed)
    Characters that most probably make into the League but aren't confirmed: Bianca, Stephan and Kotetsu. One of them can fail but is highly unlikely.
    Characters that could make show up in the League and appeared before. Katharine, Montgomery.
    Characters that don't seem likely being in the League: Georgia, Burgundy. The last two are Iris and Cilan's rivals, not Ash rivals. this is like Zoey participates in the League.
    Character that won't particpate in the League: Iris and Cilan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luthor View Post
    wasn't that a lie that Harley told team rocket to make them trust him?
    You don't know if it was a lie or not with Harley. XD But in the same sense, Cabernet stretched the truth too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luthor View Post
    it could be a secondary goal.Personally i don't think she will enter the league but she was at one stage collecting badges so it's possible .She might enter to prove she is a master sommalier or something like that i suppose.
    I agree, her initial goal was to collect badges and we have no proof that she's stopped. Sommelier things could be on the side, characters like Nando can do it. About her revenge that's against Cilan, not Ash, so I don't see how it affects her if she's in the league. She could be in the league and I'd believe it.

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