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    Hi, this is me trying to get a Special oriented Heavy Offense team; I'm not sure if I have to put it on Competitive but as I'm only playing trought WiFi I'm gonna say is an in-Game team c: so here we go:

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    Azelf @Light Clay
    Trait: Levitate
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 252 HP / 6 Def / 252 Speed
    > Stealth Rock
    > Light Screen
    > Reflect
    > Taunt
    ~ The one and only lead of nonUbers HO teams; is pretty slow, but the thing that Outspeeds me doesn't worry me, as I didn't see them pretty much ;o anyway, the set is obvious Dual Screens to get more defenses, SR to get ride of Sturdy/Sashes, and Taunt to stop my opp for letting their hazards in.

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    Emploeon @Life Orb / Air Ballon
    Trait: Torrent
    Nature: Modest
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpAtk / 252 Speed
    > Grass Knot
    > Agility
    > Ice Beam
    > Hydro Pump / Surf
    ~ AgilityEon I used this before but whit a different EV spread, so now I'll use Max Speed to get 438 on Speed after Agility, the rest is obvious

    3.-
    Omastar @White Herb
    Trait: Shell Armor (I was too lazy to get a SwiftSwimmer)
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 Sp Atk / 252 Speed
    > Hidden Power (Grass 67)
    > Shell Smash
    > Ice Beam
    > Scald / Hydro Pump / Surf
    ~Sorry I won't breed for a Swift Swimmer, I get a pretty good Hidden Power >:c, after that this guy could be a variant for Empoleon working almost the same way, the pro of Omastar is his +2 on SpAtk even whit only 67BP Hidden Power deals amazing damage, the other move are just for coverage.

    4.-
    Lucario @Life Orb
    Trait: Inner Focus
    Nature: Modest / Timid
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpAtk / 252 Speed
    > Nasty Plot
    > Aura Sphere
    > Vacuum Wave
    > Shadow Ball / dark Pulse
    ~ Yes! NPCario ftw:3 This guy is just awesome, after a nasty Plot it reaches 722 or 698 on SpAtk, Fight+Ghost/Dark combo, and Vacuum Wave to get a prioty stab move.

    5.-
    Porygon-Z @Metronome
    Trait: Adaptability
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpAtk / 252 Speed
    > Nasty Plot
    > Ice Beam
    > Thunderbolt
    > Tri Attack
    ~ Pretty explanatory set, NP is for more power, BoltBeam coverage, and Tri Attack is just awesome under Adaptability.

    6.-
    Volcarona @Lum Berry
    Trait: Flame Body
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpAtk / 252 Speed
    > Quiver Dance
    > Bug Buzz
    > Flamethrower / Fire Blast
    > Psychic
    ~ Self explanatory, i used Lum Berry just because after a Quiver Dance reaches a gargantuar SpAtk, so I don't need the Life Orb.
    So, that's the team (: hope you like it, plase tell me if i could do it better

    ~TyKi

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    Wi-Fi is still competitive battling, just not as popular as Pokemon Online. But hey I'll give this a rate anyway.

    Omastar and Empoleon do have very similar roles, typing, coverage and just general utility. In HO you'll really need to get the team right. Maybe Alakazam, Thundurus, Virizion etc. could take one of their places since there isn't much else you can do with either to vary their movesets. Of course the best thing to do is to get some battles with the team under your belt.
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    1.-
    Uxie @Light Clay
    Trait: Levitate
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 252 HP / 6 Def / 252 Speed
    > Stealth Rock
    > Light Screen
    > Reflect
    > TauntMemento
    Uxie is better as a lead as it has more bulk and gets access to Memento which can completley ruin a sweeper.

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    Volcarona @Lum Berry
    Trait: Flame Body
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpAtk / 252 Speed
    > Quiver Dance
    > Bug Buzz
    > Flamethrower / Fire Blast
    > Substitute/Psychic

    Substitute lets you set up Quiver dance faster.

    These are the only two changes that I can think of Lucario is good.
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    Fiery Dance instead of Flamethrower or Fire Blast because Fiery Dance has only about 20 less base power than Flamethrower (if counting STAB) and after one Special Attack boost by Fiery Dance, it will have a lot more power than Flamethrower and it will have the same base power as Fire Blast, but more accuracy, also Fiery Dance can boost Volcarona Special Attack up to six times and it has 50% to boost Special Attack.
    Hope this help

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    You should remove Empoleon as it doesn't really serve much purpose considering you have the Omastar which is stronger after a boost albeit less reliable.
    You should get rid of P2 - it's strong, but not fast enough - and can be walled by certain SP walls.
    Lucario is good, keep that bring in something like Dragonite (Choice banded) or Choice Scarfed Terrakion - the best late-game sweeper.
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    I can't read this because of the shitty font, I hope the team isn't that shitty...

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    This team shows some proficiency at team building; however, you shouldn't have an all special team... it's not practical. You need diversity in your sweepers. You'll get destroyed by Bliss otherwise... I recommend making pory physical.

    Porygon-z@No item
    Jolly
    4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
    -Sharpen
    -Return
    -Giga Impact
    -Thief

    At first, this set might seem like a gimmick. However, strange though it may seem, P-z is one of the most effective physical sweepers in the game. First of all, let us note that he has quite a reasonable base attack of 80, that, next to his phenomenal SpA, is often ignored. Secondly, if you choose Download, that can provide many opportunities for a free attack boost. Furthermore, Pory can use Sharpen to set up and boost its attack further. Adaptability is also a very viable ability, raising the base power of Return and Giga Impact. Return is the main STAB attack, tearing through opposing teams. Giga Impact is for more bulky threats which are important to remove in one hit. (Remember, Porygon-Z and Slaking are the only two cases where hyper-beam and giga impact are viable). Thief gives you a way of dealing Ghosts, robbing them of their precious leftovers which is often their only mode of recovery. Overall, while this set seems strange and unconventional, it is amazing for its surprise factor -- it's little known, even on the Smogon forums where I got it originally. This thing crushes teams. I strongly recommend dropping the all special theme and using this.

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    I'm presuming this is singles-please say if otherwise.
    Unfortunately,this team could be mauled by a fighting type if it's given a chance to set up,and despite the advantageous typing that Azelf provides,it can't do anything to counter a fighting type-even if it's right in front of it(which isn't good! )
    On top of this,it'll only take one taunt against Azelf and it's over!
    So,I'd say remove stealth rock,as sashes aren't that big of a problem and replace with psychic perhaps to counter fighting types,or explosion(which compliments Azelf's attack stat really well).
    Omastar could use stealth rock just as well!

    Besides this,I agree very much Lapras!-from my own experience,focusing on one offense is dangerous.
    An Altaria could capably wall an "attack" team due to its access to cotton guard-whereas if you had blizzard handy,it wouldn't be so much of a problem.
    It's certainly a dangerous team,just not a very adaptable one,really

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