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    Default Team TrollFreak is very sexy (Peaked #4)

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    Hello Serebii, and welcome everyone to my very Ubers RMT. My name is TrollFreak (aka DragonMaster123, DM123, Banana*****, etc etc), and I love Dragon-type Pokemon. My favorite is Salamence and Hydregion. I am the Ubers Brain of these forums. But enough of me, on to the RMT. After peaking in the top 40 in BW OU, and a Top 8 finish in the Southeast VGC 2011 seniors division, i wanted to learn other tiers, especially ubers. This team peaked #4 under the name TrollFreak. It's an offensive team that tries to keep the momentum going in my favor, and it fits into my offensive playstyle perfectly. So, after the ladder resets, I decided to post this team.

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    Trait: Drizzle
    EVs: 52 HP / 252 SAtk / 204 Spd
    Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
    - Surf
    - Water Spout
    - Ice Beam
    - Thunder

    Choice Scarf Kyogre is an effective and powerful revenge killer, as well as giving my team weather control, which is crucial. It has a very powerful Water Spout that deals at least 79.7% to +1 Mewtwo, an OHKO after Stealth Rock and Life Orb recoil, which is an impressive feat that other special Choice Scarf attackers, such as Palkia and Dialga, fail to achieve.

    The extra power gained from using a Modest nature makes it easier to KO several threats, which are listed below with damage calculations. The EVs allow me to outpace both Deoxys and Deoxys-A, both of which are powerful threats to my team, while retaining power in a Modest Nature.



    Modest 131 Base Power Water Spout:

    • vs 252/0 Arceus: 37.6% - 44.4% (Chance to 2HKO with Stealth Rock; Timid fails entirely)
    • vs 252/200 Dialga: 39.9% - 47% (Very small chance to 2HKO with Stealth Rock)
    • vs 0/0 Rayquaza: 40.5% - 47.9% (2HKO with Stealth Rock)
    • vs 252/0 Latias: 42.9% - 50.3% (Chance to 2HKO)
    • vs 4/0 Arceus: 43.7% - 51.6% (Very large chance to 2HKO with Stealth Rock)
    • vs 0/0 Giratina-O: 44.2% - 52.4% (2HKO with Stealth Rock; Timid is not guaranteed)
    • vs 252/0 Manaphy: 48.3% - 57.2% (2HKO with Stealth Rock)

    Modest Surf:


    • vs 0/0 Rayquaza: 29.3% - 34.8%
    • vs 0/0 Dialga/Zekrom/Manaphy: 41.6% - 49.3%
    • vs 4/0 Hydreigon: 47.24% - 55.83% (2HKO with Stealth Rock; Timid is not guaranteed)


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    Trait: Pressure
    EVs: 216 HP / 252 SAtk / 40 Spd
    Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
    - Thunder
    - Fire Blast
    - Draco Meteor
    - Stealth Rock

    Dialga is one of the very few Dragon-types who can go the supportive route. Stealth Rock requires no real explanation, as it the backbone to my team, helping Pokemon such as Arceus-Flying pull off sweeps. Draco Meteor is used to dish out immediate damage and strip off more than half of Groudon's health. The reason I used Draco Meteor > Dragon Pulse was that Draco Meteor has the added bonus of OHKOing Reshiram and Palkia without the need of Stealth Rock damage. Fire Blast is the preferred Fire-type move for the extra power and it has the added bonus of 2HKOing most Groudon and Ferrothorn in the rain. Thunder works best alongside Kyogre as its Drizzle ability remedies Thunder's poor accuracy. Dialga aloes act as a check to Zekrom by resisting Bolt Strike and surviving 2 unboosted Outrages on average while Dialga's Draco Meteor will OHKO Zekrom.

    The EV Spread gives Diagla enough speed to outpace 32 Ho-Oh, Dialga, Giratina-O, which is useful as I can OHKO Giratina-O with Draco Meteor, as well as being able to attack Ho-Oh with a powerful Thunder.

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    Trait: Pressure
    EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Thunder
    - Fire Blast
    - Surf
    - Spacial Rend

    Spacial Rend is its most consistent STAB option dealing solid damage to anything that doesn't resist it. Surf is Palkia's secondary STAB of choice and is easily the most powerful move on the set under the rain, able to 2HKO even Wobbuffet. Thunder is a must for dealing with Kyogre and Tail Glow Manaphy, though it is also my best option for hurting Lugia, and the 30% paralysis rate can really come in handy. Fire Blast lets it take out Steel-types that come in to wall Spacial Rend, and also receives a pseudo STAB boost in the sun.

    Since this set is supposed to play as a Choice Scarf set, I used Lustrous Orb over Life Orb, and a Timid Nature as it allows Palkia to outspeed more things.


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    Trait: Justified
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
    Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
    - Stone Edge
    - Close Combat
    - Sacred Sword
    - Earthquake

    With Terrakion's above-average 108 base Speed boosted by Choice Scarf, Terrakion is able to hit a Speed stat of 519, allowing it to outspeed a vast majority of the Uber tier. In fact, it is able to outspeed any Pokemon without a Speed boost and a good majority of popular Choice Scarf users. Terrakion can outspeed Choice Scarf variants of Palkia and Garchomp, some of the fastest Pokemon in the Uber metagame, as well as outspeed both Rayquaza and Salamence after they have used Dragon Dance. It can also switch into Darkrai's Dark Pulse or Tyranitar's Crunch and gain an Attack stage through its ability as well as being able to outspeed both afterward.


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    Trait: Multitype
    EVs: 4 Def / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Calm Mind
    - Judgment
    - Recover
    - Refresh

    The main advantages of using Flying Arceus over other Arceus formes, or other Flying-types for that matter, are its excellent mono-attacking STAB and the ability to further boost its power. Many of the Steel-types in the tier, such as Ferrothorn, Forretress, and Scizor, have a secondary typing that makes them vulnerable to Judgment and allows Arceus to capitalize on its Flying-type STAB quite effectively. Arceus outspeeds the vast majority of the Uber tier and has great power and coverage with a single move, so it can easily wreak havoc if left unchallenged.

    Unfortunately, Arceus's Flying typing gives it an unfortunate Stealth Rock weakness. However, thanks to its incredible overall bulk and access to Recover, this problem is somewhat mitigated. Arceus can augment its bulk further by using Refresh to prevent opponents from crippling it with status, and subsequently outstalling it. Foes that resist this Flying / Ground combination, such as Skarmory and Thundurus, are both outsped and 2HKOed by Arceus's +1 Judgment, making it really hard to hard on Counter.



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    Trait: Bad Dreams
    EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Substitute
    - Dark Void
    - Dark Pulse
    - Focus Blast

    This is the very set that propelled Darkrai to fame, or rather notoriety, last generation. Darkrai's stellar base 125 Speed and Dark Void's decent accuracy make supporting my team easy. The basic game plan is to switch into a Pokemon slower than Darkrai, put it to sleep with a Dark Void, set up a Substitute, and start attacking. Focus Blast hits the Dark- and Steel-types that resist Dark-type attacks, most notably Tyranitar, Heatran, Ferrothorn, and opposing Darkrai. Dark Pulse and Focus Blast have near-perfect coverage, resisted only by Heracross and Toxicroak. Substitute allows Darkrai to avoid crippling status, have a fighting chance against Sleep Talkers, and scout for its counters. Dark-type has good type coverage in Ubers, so a mono-attacking set without Focus Blast is extremely viable, although Darkrai will easily be walled by Steel-type Pokemon and Blissey then.

    This Darkrai set functions exceptionally well as a lead or late-game sweeper. Thanks to Bad Dreams, Darkrai does not have to worry about its opponent's Focus Sash. Leftovers is used with, as Life Orb recoil will drain Darkrai's health too quickly.

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    Not much else to say that wasn't already covered in the Intro. I hope you enjoyed the team!
    Last edited by TrollFreak; 25th June 2012 at 11:48 AM.

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    why not nasty plot over substitute on darkrai

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    This is a good looking team, DM. I can't really find any glaring weaknesses with it... maybe Rock Polish Groudon? At +2, it can outspeed even your Terrakion, and really be a pain to handle for most of your team. Obviously, Arceus loses to Stone Edge, Terrakion loses to Earthquake, and Darkrai loses to anything, really. I dunno what the calcs are on Dialga since you have some bulk there, nor do I know what would happen to Palkia. But I'd be wary of something like that, especially after Kyogre meets its demise. Though overall, it's a really solid team. Good job getting to #4!
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    i dont do or like ubers, but i see you have only one resistance to fighting, and 3 of your pokes are weak to it. maybe a good ghost type over darkrai? possibly gengar? can hypnosis others, and sub, and great SpA. sorry, i dont do ubers, so i could be entirely wrong.

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    Thanks for the posts guys!
    why not nasty plot over substitute on darkrai
    I like Sub as it makes it harder for Darkrai to go down. Also, most players use something as sleep fodder, while they go into their revenge killers to KO Darkrai predicting the Nasty Plot. With Sub, I can sub in their faces, which works out good for me if I can Sub on a threat.


    i dont do or like ubers, but i see you have only one resistance to fighting, and 3 of your pokes are weak to it. maybe a good ghost type over darkrai? possibly gengar? can hypnosis others, and sub, and great SpA. sorry, i dont do ubers, so i could be entirely wrong.
    Fighting isn't really common other than Blaziken adn Fight-Arceus, and Gengar is bad in Ubers(like, bad, REALLY bad)

    This is a good looking team, DM. I can't really find any glaring weaknesses with it... maybe Rock Polish Groudon? At +2, it can outspeed even your Terrakion, and really be a pain to handle for most of your team. Obviously, Arceus loses to Stone Edge, Terrakion loses to Earthquake, and Darkrai loses to anything, really. I dunno what the calcs are on Dialga since you have some bulk there, nor do I know what would happen to Palkia. But I'd be wary of something like that, especially after Kyogre meets its demise. Though overall, it's a really solid team. Good job getting to #4!
    RP Groundon can be annoying if I let it set up. Thankfully, it only gets to set up on 1 pokemon, Terrakion. He can set up since it tanks any attack, and proceed to do massive damage. But usually, it doesn't get a chance to set up, but if it does, it'll be hard to stop

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrollFreak View Post
    Fighting isn't really common other than Blaziken adn Fight-Arceus, and Gengar is bad in Ubers(like, bad, REALLY bad)
    lol, told you i was bad at ubers. other than that, it looks fine.
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    The only thing I can think of is that Fire Blast is pointless if on Palkia, especially with Kygore on your team. Except for Ferrothorn, Surf will destroy any Steel types you encounter. Fire Blast is a waste imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soperman View Post
    The only thing I can think of is that Fire Blast is pointless if on Palkia, especially with Kygore on your team. Except for Ferrothorn, Surf will destroy any Steel types you encounter. Fire Blast is a waste imo.
    Why did you want other to make your team better if it's already the best?
    It makes it easier to run in the Sun as well, letting it stay in longer and not have to switch out so often if there s weather war raging.
    I saw this in another battle posted in the battle logs forum, and Palkia was able to take a nice chunk out of the opponents incoming Dialga because he predicted the switch and went for the Fire Blast while the sun was up. Otherwise he would have had to lure the opponent to send back in his kyogre to bing back the rain, and then switch back in his Palkia to take advantage of it.

    thats what i saw anyways, and it kinda makes sense, like how Volcarona can run in the rain with Hurricane, but keep Fire Blast for when the rain is gone.
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    Nice team! I like it I may test it out even though I never done ubers before :P

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    Better than my team :P

    I wish I could give this a Luvdisc

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    Only thing I can say is, with Palkia you can probably switch the 4SDef EVs into HP, seeing as you're not running Life Orb, and they're more useful in HP. Very minor point though, and other than that amazing team! I'm testing it out on the ladder at the moment, and it's getting very commendable results.

    I'm sure there's an explanation, however, why do you use Refresh on Arceus over Substitute? I thought the majority of status users in Ubers were slower than Arceus, so it wouldn't be a problem to run Substitute.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barbeller View Post

    I'm sure there's an explanation, however, why do you use Refresh on Arceus over Substitute? I thought the majority of status users in Ubers were slower than Arceus, so it wouldn't be a problem to run Substitute.
    So I can set up on the blobs, w/ sub, it doesn't help If I switch it into the blobs, as Toxic ruins it. With Refresh, this can switch in on the blobs and Ferro w/o Gyro Ball and set up. Leech Seed is annoying, but I have recover to heal it off

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    nice team, i cant really find anything, maybe a second move on arceus for more coverage, all tho with enough boosts it wont matter



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    wow LO dialga is a really good idea
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    Hey, Trollfreak! Amazing team you have here and great job getting to 4th on the ladder!

    Now, this team is pretty solid, but I feel that Rock Polish Groudon, while not an immediate threat, can potentially kill or severely weaken your team after a Rock Polish. After a Rock Polish, Groudon outspeeds your whole team. Even though Kyogre can take a hit and strike back, it's a OHKO 46% of the time factoring in Stealth Rock, so it isn't that solid of a check. Even worse, once Kyogre's killed off, it's pretty much gg, as Groudon OHKOes Dialga, Darkrai, and Terrakion with Earthquake, OHKOs Palkia with Dragon Claw 7.69% of the time (87.18% with Stealth Rock), and finally 2HKOs Arceus-Flying with Stone Edge, OHKO with Stealth Rock (Unboosted Judgement does 59.35% - 69.92%).
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