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[flamebeam]

I want to say that I do have feelings for them, however I also didn't cry as well. Maybe that comes along with not being much of a crier.

But I'm far from heartless. People have different ways of expressing sorrow.

i wouldn't say i cried either; my eyes got watery a couple of times, but if you don't feel sorrow, then yes, that is heartless. i personally am not glorifying the killer. i don't even know his name. and, like i said before, the media does it wrong. i know that; that's why my eyes aren't glued to the tv. will i remember the names of any victims? probably not. will i eventually learn the killer's name? yes, because of the media. will i obsess over this issue like many people will on monday? no, because this was a sad thing and i don't wanna dwell on it. i think, despite this tragedy, the media needs to focus on more important issues like the fiscal cliff and the issues in israel. still, that doesn't mean this news didnt upset me. i don't blame America for it; i do somewhat blame guns, but I'm DEFINITELY not getting into THAT discussion, so nobody try to argue with me about that. all that matters about this story -- relative to news, NOT politics/media -- is that people died and it's sad, and updates

[Kutie Pie]

i wouldn't say i cried either; my eyes got watery a couple of times, but if you don't feel sorrow, then yes, that is heartless. i personally am not glorifying the killer. i don't even know his name. and, like i said before, the media does it wrong. i know that; that's why my eyes aren't glued to the tv. will i remember the names of any victims? probably not. will i eventually learn the killer's name? yes, because of the media. will i obsess over this issue like many people will on monday? no, because this was a sad thing and i don't wanna dwell on it.

I didn't cry tears, but I was really, really upset over the news (especially since I love kids and do work with them weekly at church, and my parents are both teachers). I don't know any of the victims' names, but I have sympathy for their friends and family. Through a religious point-of-view, I believe the victims are in a better, safer place, and the shooter has gotten his judgment the moment he pulled the trigger on himself. It's helped calm me down, though it still hurts to think about what happened.

I don't believe anyone here is intentionally glorifying the killer, but the media likes to twist things around whenever something makes national headlines, we've seen it happen over and over again (not going to list examples). They have some kind of sick pleasure over it, especially when it comes to avoiding talk of other important things going on like the fiscal cliff and Israel.

Eventually, in about a week or two, this will just be another news headline, and things will return to "normal" until the next big tragedy happens. It's a rather nasty cycle, now that I think about it. Should we forget? Depends on the individual, but we shouldn't have to remember it through a statistical point-of-view like most other disastrous events in the course of history. We lived and witnessed it, and that's what we should try and hold onto.

[Mandi.]

My bad.. I was just angry at the people throwing this away like it's nothing, which is why I said if you didn't cry something was wrong with you. Didn't mean it like that, what I really meant was, if you didn't feel any one bit of sadness or sorrow from this then something was wrong.

The part that really teared me up was when the father of Emilie Parker (one of the little children that passed) spoke. I give him so much credit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYt4T201Lrw

It feels even worse when you actually see the faces of the victims.. especially seeing how small and young they were.

[flamebeam]

switching it up a bit

In rare interview, Syrian vice president says neither side can win

so this has been going on for about 21 months. and 10s of 1000s of people have died. a lot of nations, including the u.s., have recognized the rebels as.the representative government. I'm guessing these are the anti-Syria nations

[ansem the wise]

My bad.. I was just angry at the people throwing this away like it's nothing, which is why I said if you didn't cry something was wrong with you. Didn't mean it like that, what I really meant was, if you didn't feel any one bit of sadness or sorrow from this then something was wrong.

The part that really teared me up was when the father of Emilie Parker (one of the little children that passed) spoke. I give him so much credit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYt4T201Lrw

It feels even worse when you actually see the faces of the victims.. especially seeing how small and young they were.

Ok, am I the only one who thought "the hunger games" after seing this?

And about the killer, my mom says that she heard on the news that his sister is missing. I'm pretty sure we all have a good guess at what happened to her.

[emilyshortcake]

http://readersupportednews.org/news-...wtown-funerals

A little background,

Westboro Baptist Church is known for picketing funerals of deceased members of the military (fighting for a doomed country is a "sin", deceased homosexuals (God hates "fags"), pretty much deceased anyone. They are a radical group of the Baptist religion that believe America is a doomed nation, because we allow abortions and allow gays to marry (even if the marriage is not technically recognized). They believe that the shooter that killed the children in Newtown was sent by God.
And they plan to pay visits to Newtown to "celebrate" the deaths of the children and adults killed in the massacre, saying it was an act of God's judgement.

I can't tell who has the more messed up head. These people, or the shooter himself.

[flamebeam]

http://readersupportednews.org/news-...wtown-funerals

A little background,

Westboro Baptist Church is known for picketing funerals of deceased members of the military (fighting for a doomed country is a "sin", deceased homosexuals (God hates "fags"), pretty much deceased anyone. They are a radical group of the Baptist religion that believe America is a doomed nation, because we allow abortions and allow gays to marry (even if the marriage is not technically recognized). They believe that the shooter that killed the children in Newtown was sent by God.
And they plan to pay visits to Newtown to "celebrate" the deaths of the children and adults killed in the massacre, saying it was an act of God's judgement.

I can't tell who has the more messed up head. These people, or the shooter himself.

i would say this radical group is worse than shoot cuz the shooter could've gone insane as he killed, while these people are technically mentally healthy; they're just insane on a moral level

[Azran Flame]

http://readersupportednews.org/news-...wtown-funerals

A little background,

Westboro Baptist Church is known for picketing funerals of deceased members of the military (fighting for a doomed country is a "sin", deceased homosexuals (God hates "fags"), pretty much deceased anyone. They are a radical group of the Baptist religion that believe America is a doomed nation, because we allow abortions and allow gays to marry (even if the marriage is not technically recognized). They believe that the shooter that killed the children in Newtown was sent by God.
And they plan to pay visits to Newtown to "celebrate" the deaths of the children and adults killed in the massacre, saying it was an act of God's judgement.

I can't tell who has the more messed up head. These people, or the shooter himself.

Yet another piece of bad news to add to my day. Marvellous.

These fanatics don't deserve to just die. They deserve to be locked up in prisons away from all traces from civilisation in Antartica without central heating and be forced to live the rest of eternity in isolation, dwelling on their unforgivable actions.

[Kutie Pie]

http://readersupportednews.org/news-...wtown-funerals

A little background,

Westboro Baptist Church is known for picketing funerals of deceased members of the military (fighting for a doomed country is a "sin", deceased homosexuals (God hates "fags"), pretty much deceased anyone. They are a radical group of the Baptist religion that believe America is a doomed nation, because we allow abortions and allow gays to marry (even if the marriage is not technically recognized). They believe that the shooter that killed the children in Newtown was sent by God.
And they plan to pay visits to Newtown to "celebrate" the deaths of the children and adults killed in the massacre, saying it was an act of God's judgement.

I can't tell who has the more messed up head. These people, or the shooter himself.

I may not support gay marriage in any way, shape, or form, but as a person I know better than to do crap like that. A funeral is a funeral no matter who the person was. The fact they hide behind the first amendment (because they found a loophole) makes it worse. The more I hear about this corrupt church, the more it makes me angry and sad that we have such activity in this country. Because heaven knows the Westboro Baptist Church wouldn't have been tolerated, let alone survived outside of America.

And even though I'm a religious person, I don't know why the horrible event had to happen. I believe God has people go through personal trials (either to teach them a lesson, or to test their character), and that everyone has a purpose in life, but then there are moments like the shooting that makes it harder to decide if God had a hand in it or not. Everyone can have a different opinion on the manner, but it's how they act before everyone that determines if they're right or wrong--and even then everyone sees such actions differently.

[emilyshortcake]

And even though I'm a religious person, I don't know why the horrible event had to happen. I believe God has people go through personal trials (either to teach them a lesson, or to test their character), and that everyone has a purpose in life, but then there are moments like the shooting that makes it harder to decide if God had a hand in it or not. Everyone can have a different opinion on the manner, but it's how they act before everyone that determines if they're right or wrong--and even then everyone sees such actions differently.

That brings us to people saying "where was God when this happened, why didn't he do anything.?". Not just about this, but anything bad that happens. We all have to remember that we are born with our free will, given to us by him, and what we do with it is our choice. If any of you have ever seen the movie Bruce Almighty, it does a great job illustrating this.

The Baptist church has the same God as the Catholic religion, but they seem him differently. They see him as a judging, hateful, condemning figure; while the Catholic church sees him more as a forgiving Father type. The harsher the God, the harsher the man.

[AJ]

http://readersupportednews.org/news-...wtown-funerals

A little background,

Westboro Baptist Church is known for picketing funerals of deceased members of the military (fighting for a doomed country is a "sin", deceased homosexuals (God hates "fags"), pretty much deceased anyone. They are a radical group of the Baptist religion that believe America is a doomed nation, because we allow abortions and allow gays to marry (even if the marriage is not technically recognized). They believe that the shooter that killed the children in Newtown was sent by God.
And they plan to pay visits to Newtown to "celebrate" the deaths of the children and adults killed in the massacre, saying it was an act of God's judgement.

I can't tell who has the more messed up head. These people, or the shooter himself.

Aren't they the same people who protested against gay marriage at Matthew Shepherd (the homosexual teen who was beat and tied to a fence on which he was found dead)'s funeral? There were people dressed as angels with wings to block those attending the funeral from seeing the church protesters there. They're just messed up in the brain...

[Aquadon]

http://readersupportednews.org/news-...wtown-funerals

A little background,

Westboro Baptist Church is known for picketing funerals of deceased members of the military (fighting for a doomed country is a "sin", deceased homosexuals (God hates "fags"), pretty much deceased anyone. They are a radical group of the Baptist religion that believe America is a doomed nation, because we allow abortions and allow gays to marry (even if the marriage is not technically recognized). They believe that the shooter that killed the children in Newtown was sent by God.
And they plan to pay visits to Newtown to "celebrate" the deaths of the children and adults killed in the massacre, saying it was an act of God's judgement.

I can't tell who has the more messed up head. These people, or the shooter himself.

I love the hypocrisy of the Westboro church, they call America a doomed nation yet they still live in this country and exploit its loopholes. When I heard this news, given that I live 20 minutes away I was very tempted to go out to counter protest; truly a despicable thing to do at a time like this for these families.

[Spookz]

Aren't they the same people who protested against gay marriage at Matthew Shepherd (the homosexual teen who was beat and tied to a fence on which he was found dead)'s funeral? There were people dressed as angels with wings to block those attending the funeral from seeing the church protesters there. They're just messed up in the brain...

Yeah, they picket everyone. They even picketed productions of The Laramie Project which is a play based on Matthew Shepherd's murder, they picketed Michael Jackson's funeral, they protested at the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum.. they literally spend hundreds of thousands of dollars flying around the country to picket funerals.

[AJ]

Yeah, they picket everyone. They even picketed productions of The Laramie Project which is a play based on Matthew Shepherd's murder, they picketed Michael Jackson's funeral, they protested at the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum.. they literally spend hundreds of thousands of dollars flying around the country to picket funerals.

My question is how do they have the time/funds to do it? People with passion and conviction (no matter how stupid) always find ways to impose their beliefs on others but this is too far. One's first amendment right should not be abused like this. And what do they have against the Holocaust Museum?

[Spookz]

My question is how do they have the time/funds to do it? People with passion and conviction (no matter how stupid) always find ways to impose their beliefs on others but this is too far. One's first amendment right should not be abused like this.

It's funded entirely through the congregation/family. A lot of people get angry when they're protesting and act out in anger which results in the church suing them for assault.

And what do they have against the Holocaust Museum?

They literally hate everyone.

[Dragontail]

http://readersupportednews.org/news-...wtown-funerals

A little background,

Westboro Baptist Church is known for picketing funerals of deceased members of the military (fighting for a doomed country is a "sin", deceased homosexuals (God hates "fags"), pretty much deceased anyone. They are a radical group of the Baptist religion that believe America is a doomed nation, because we allow abortions and allow gays to marry (even if the marriage is not technically recognized). They believe that the shooter that killed the children in Newtown was sent by God.
And they plan to pay visits to Newtown to "celebrate" the deaths of the children and adults killed in the massacre, saying it was an act of God's judgement.

I can't tell who has the more messed up head. These people, or the shooter himself.

O the land of the free, and the home of the brave.
what is the world coming to?

[frogofdoom555]

Some more Westboro idiocy for you.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/1..._n_794333.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50r0CnKq7_k

[Spookz]

Saudi Arabia: Islamic cleric rapes, tortures, kills daughter, pays fine

In Saudi Arabia an Islamic cleric who admits to raping, torturing and killing his daughter received a fine but no jail time for his heinous crime. Saudi media reports that the father paid 200,000 riyals ($50,000 US) in “blood money” for his crime, but will not be required to serve any time in prison.

In response to the heinous crime, and lack of justice for five-year old victim Lama al-Ghamdi, the women's rights activist Manal al-Sharif and others issued a press release on Feb 2, and launched a Twitter campaign using the hashtags "#AnaLama" (Arabic for "I am Lama") and #IamLama, demanding legislation criminalizing violence against women and children.

Fayhan al-Ghamdi, the victims father and a popular Islamic preacher who has made numerous television appearances promoting Islam, confessed to the heinous crime. Ghamdi told Saudi officials he used cables and a cane on his five-year-old daughter, leaving her with multiple injuries, including a crushed skull, broken ribs and left arm, extensive bruising and burns. In addition, one of Lama’s fingernails had been torn off. Hospital staff reports the child’s rectum had been torn open and the abuser had attempted to burn it closed.

Reports indicate the father had doubted his five-year old daughter's virginity.

Lama al-Ghamdi died last October. The amount her father was fined for the brutal rape, torture and murder, would have been doubled if Lama had been male. In Saudi Arabia, Islamic law is interpreted to be that a father cannot be executed for murdering his children, nor can husbands be executed for murdering their wives.

Human rights activists point out that judicial leniency towards male abusers and murderers reflects the highly problematic nature of the male guardianship system in Saudi Arabia. Currently all women in Saudi Arabia are considered minors, and all are automatically assigned to the care and judgment of their most immediate male relative. This system of male guardianship gives the male relatives the power to sell girls legally into child marriages and to ban adult women from work, travel and obtaining medical operations.

[Kutie Pie]

Saudi Arabia: Islamic cleric rapes, tortures, kills daughter, pays fine

I'm not surprised in the least. Try as they might, I doubt the mindsets of these barbarians will ever be swayed to fit the modern times. I'm not feminist in the least, though I feel very sorry for Arabic women, and the hell they have to go through over there.

[flamebeam]

i knew that women had little rights in that region, but i didn't know it was so bad that women are essentially property. women are humans, too. they live just as long and have dreams, so they should be treated equally