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    Quote Originally Posted by Zach96 View Post
    Hello, and thank you for taking the time to read this.
    I have spent the last few months going back over some of the games before Pokémon X and Y to bridge the gap between my FireRed with a complete Pokédex and the Y version I bought when it came out last year. After beating SoulSilver last week, I am trying to trade some of the Pokémon from it to my White 2 game by using Download Play (as I understand this to be the only way of trading from the previous generation games). I received a communication error when I attempt to do this, and I have already reset my Wi-Fi security to none and two WEP with no results.

    I understand that in May of this year, Nintendo shut down DS networking services. Does this mean that I cannot trade between my own SoulSilver and White 2 games and my own DS systems? This seems ridiculous.

    Thank you for your time.
    You CAN still transfer Pokemon from Gen 4 to 5 as wi-fi is not required for that.

    To transfer, you'll need to go to the Poke Transfer Lab on your White 2, which is located on Route 15. IIRC, you have to have beaten the main story before you can go there. Anyway, in the transfer lab you have to talk to one of the scientists at the back of the room and then go to the download play option on your *other* system (with SoulSilver in that DS). You should be able to access the Poke Transfer from there and send Pokemon over to White 2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquarelle View Post
    You CAN still transfer Pokemon from Gen 4 to 5 as wi-fi is not required for that.

    To transfer, you'll need to go to the Poke Transfer Lab on your White 2, which is located on Route 15. IIRC, you have to have beaten the main story before you can go there. Anyway, in the transfer lab you have to talk to one of the scientists at the back of the room and then go to the download play option on your *other* system (with SoulSilver in that DS). You should be able to access the Poke Transfer from there and send Pokemon over to White 2.
    I really want this to be the case, that maybe there is something wrong with one of my systems. However, I have spoken with someone at Nintendo's tech support department and they told me that even local trading was disabled when they discontinued wireless services in May.

    Does Download Play not require WiFi? When I tried this with wireless disabled on both devices I was told I had to enable it.

    I would really like it if someone could confirm whether or not trading can still take place between BW/B2W2 and any game from the prior generation. If so, I will happily purchase a new system to try and make this work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zach96 View Post
    I really want this to be the case, that maybe there is something wrong with one of my systems. However, I have spoken with someone at Nintendo's tech support department and they told me that even local trading was disabled when they discontinued wireless services in May.

    Does Download Play not require WiFi? When I tried this with wireless disabled on both devices I was told I had to enable it.

    I would really like it if someone could confirm whether or not trading can still take place between BW/B2W2 and any game from the prior generation. If so, I will happily purchase a new system to try and make this work.
    Yes, transferring between Gen 4 & 5 games can still take place, as can local trading between games of the same generation. I have done both several times since the wi-fi shutdown.

    Wi-fi and the system's wireless connection abilities are not the same. You do not need to have a wi-fi connection in order to use the local wireless features of the DS; they are completely unaffected by the shutdown.

    If you cannot transfer at all, then the only reasons I can think of are that there is something wrong with one of your systems or you've made a mistake somewhere in the transfer process. Are you 100% sure you've been trying to transfer correctly?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zach96 View Post
    I really want this to be the case, that maybe there is something wrong with one of my systems. However, I have spoken with someone at Nintendo's tech support department and they told me that even local trading was disabled when they discontinued wireless services in May.

    Does Download Play not require WiFi? When I tried this with wireless disabled on both devices I was told I had to enable it.

    I would really like it if someone could confirm whether or not trading can still take place between BW/B2W2 and any game from the prior generation. If so, I will happily purchase a new system to try and make this work.
    You need the "wireless" option turn on. The Wireless option will turn off ALL communication with other DS or 3DSes, not just wifi.

    The DS "phat" and DS lite doesn't have the option to disable wireless. In the DSi Models, check the Setting Menu and the middle menu option on Screen 1 will be "Wireless Comunications" just make sure ON is selected. The "older" 3DS and the "older" 3DS XL, has a wireless switch on the Right side with a Yellow light near by. If it's Flashing, or on constantly, the Wirless is on. Use that switch to turn on. Due to the Way 3DS/3DS XL Wireless switch works with DS and DSi games, you need to turn it on when on the 3DS home menu. The 2DS's switch is under the spanner icon on the Main Menu.

    Download play works fine, as does with All Local wireless functions with all the games. If you using one of 3DS family as the console to take Pokémon from, just remember to select DS Download play, not 3DS download play.

    Local Wireless trading works.. I did it a few moments ago, with my 3ds with Heart Gold and DS "phat" with Diamond. Just check what is on those screens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquarelle View Post
    Yes, transferring between Gen 4 & 5 games can still take place, as can local trading between games of the same generation. I have done both several times since the wi-fi shutdown.

    Wi-fi and the system's wireless connection abilities are not the same. You do not need to have a wi-fi connection in order to use the local wireless features of the DS; they are completely unaffected by the shutdown.

    If you cannot transfer at all, then the only reasons I can think of are that there is something wrong with one of your systems or you've made a mistake somewhere in the transfer process. Are you 100% sure you've been trying to transfer correctly?
    Ok, cautiously optimistic now.

    I am going to Route 15's trade building in White 2 on my 3DS, getting to the Download Play message, opening Download Play on my DSi with SoulSilver in the cartridge slot, selecting the download play instance of the correct ID number, and then after waiting a few seconds it gives me an error that says "the data could not be read. Please turn off the system and try again" or something very close to those words.

    I have never used this system to trade before, since I bought it specifically for what I am now attempting to do. I will try trading between two 3Ds systems and see if I am able to make that work.

    Thank you for your help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zach96 View Post
    Ok, cautiously optimistic now.

    I am going to Route 15's trade building in White 2 on my 3DS, getting to the Download Play message, opening Download Play on my DSi with SoulSilver in the cartridge slot, selecting the download play instance of the correct ID number, and then after waiting a few seconds it gives me an error that says "the data could not be read. Please turn off the system and try again" or something very close to those words.

    I have never used this system to trade before, since I bought it specifically for what I am now attempting to do. I will try trading between two 3Ds systems and see if I am able to make that work.

    Thank you for your help.
    If it helps, I did your exact use case and had no issue. Used the 3DS as host system and downloaded the transfer program to a DSi, so it shouldn't definitely be working. It sounds like it could even be your White cartridge, since that's where the data has to originate from.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hydrohs View Post
    If it helps, I did your exact use case and had no issue. Used the 3DS as host system and downloaded the transfer program to a DSi, so it shouldn't definitely be working. It sounds like it could even be your White cartridge, since that's where the data has to originate from.
    That does help, I was pretty disgusted last weekend when I tried all of this and couldn't get it to work. Now I (just) have to check out each part of the equation one by one until I find the problem.

    Thanks everyone for confirming that it really still can be done.
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    Sorry, but I am quite new to the IV stuff, and would appreciate help with this if possible. Thank You!

    Just started a new game of B2 and caught a few pokemon at the start like Riolu and Mareep all at lv 5, and my starter Oshawott(lv 7). I tried the Iv calcs on internet, the psypoke and metalkids one listed the possible Ivs of my pokes, the seribii one isnt wrking for me for some reason (maybe low levels?) My question is, how do I find exact ivs? like 30, 31,12,30,4,15 for eg? I hav seen people online stating evn low ivs unlike the 31 and 0.. I read that i should take mine to pwt or subway but thats nt possible nw. Any help? THank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyshadonyx View Post
    Sorry, but I am quite new to the IV stuff, and would appreciate help with this if possible. Thank You!

    Just started a new game of B2 and caught a few pokemon at the start like Riolu and Mareep all at lv 5, and my starter Oshawott(lv 7). I tried the Iv calcs on internet, the psypoke and metalkids one listed the possible Ivs of my pokes, the seribii one isnt wrking for me for some reason (maybe low levels?) My question is, how do I find exact ivs? like 30, 31,12,30,4,15 for eg? I hav seen people online stating evn low ivs unlike the 31 and 0.. I read that i should take mine to pwt or subway but thats nt possible nw. Any help? THank you.
    Using an IV calculator is your best bet if you want to know your exact IV spread. However, as you've already mentioned, those calculators won't give you 100% accurate results at low levels and will often give you a range of possible IVs instead. So, you'll have to train your Pokemon to much higher levels first before IV calculators will give you accurate values. I don't know how high in level you have to be before you'll get 100% accurate results, but I know that level 100 should give you the exact spread for sure if you enter everything right.

    Just make sure you're keeping track of your Pokemon's EVs, though. It will be impossible for you to calculate your IVs properly if you do not know what EVs your Pokemon have gained. If you haven't been keeping track, then you'll have to use EV reducing berries or something to reduce your EVs back to zero.


    Hopefully this all makes sense. I probably shouldn't be posting at 5am
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquarelle View Post
    Using an IV calculator is your best bet if you want to know your exact IV spread. However, as you've already mentioned, those calculators won't give you 100% accurate results at low levels and will often give you a range of possible IVs instead. So, you'll have to train your Pokemon to much higher levels first before IV calculators will give you accurate values (e.g. inputing your stats level 100 should give you the exact spread).

    Just make sure you're keeping track of your Pokemon's EVs, though. It will be impossible for you to calculate your IVs properly if you do not know what EVs your Pokemon have gained. If you haven't been keeping track, then you'll have to use EV reducing berries or something to reduce your EVs back to zero.


    Hopefully this all makes sense. I probably shouldn't be posting at 5am
    I hope this works, this is the first time I am quoting someone...

    Hmmm, so thats the only way to go hmm? I wanted it more for the Snivy i just received from the trade. Mischevious with Modest nature, stat distribution is 14/6/7/7/7/7.. i was cautiosly happy with the 31 spA iv.. but the 11 one is quite bugging me.. anywways thank you for ur help.

    and its 7 here...

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    ^A couple other things that may be helpful to you:

    -There's someone at the Pokemon World Tournament area who will tell you your Pokemon's Hidden Power type
    -The Battle Subway has a judge (postgame only iirc) who will tell you about the sum of your IVs (your Pokemon's "potential") and what stat(s) has the highest IV

    Many IV calculators have fields asking for Hidden Power, potential, best stats, etc., so adding in this information can help provide accurate results.
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    ^ I had totally forgotten 'bout that Hidden Power guy... But PWT is far, I will have to make do with the Battle Subway.

    Keeping track of all EVs of all pokemon is a tall order... Wish they kept the subway like "level arrangement" near the start. I want to battle with my in-game team later on, plus I've heard that the gym trainers in pwt are quite a bunch of tough-loves. Atleast i grinded for the beneficient natures..

    Another Question- Are we able to get any EV reducing berries or items before the Battle Subway? Or any part if In-game for that matter?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyshadonyx View Post
    Another Question- Are we able to get any EV reducing berries or items before the Battle Subway? Or any part if In-game for that matter?
    You'll be able to pick some everyday from a NPC on Route 5, which is soon after the Battle Subway first is accessible. However, If I remember correctly, the Judge won't appear until after you beat the Elite 4.
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    ^ Thanks for that. I sooo don't want the hassle of keeping the track of my EVs. Also, I think I can faintly recall from my W2 playthrough earlier this year; isn't there some drink or something in the Join Avenue Cafe stall that reduces EVs? Can anyone confirm this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyshadonyx View Post
    Also, I think I can faintly recall from my W2 playthrough earlier this year; isn't there some drink or something in the Join Avenue Cafe stall that reduces EVs? Can anyone confirm this?
    The Cafe doesn't have that feature, but the Beauty Salon does. A full list of what the services are named and what they do can be found here.
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    Ah yes, The Beauty Salon Girl! ^Thank you! I think I remember her rejecting quite a few of my pokemon coz apparently they were too friendly with me.

    Here's to hopin' that this lot isnt. :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyshadonyx View Post
    Ah yes, The Beauty Salon Girl! ^Thank you! I think I remember her rejecting quite a few of my pokemon coz apparently they were too friendly with me.

    Here's to hopin' that this lot isnt. :P
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    ^ Idk, its starting to look like just as fussy as EV tracking, I will definitely keep an eye out for the berry-gifting NPC on Route 5 though.

    Just for curiosity's sake, where can you get herbal medicines this early in the game? (Or is 4th gym somewhere in the middle?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyshadonyx View Post
    ^ Idk, its starting to look like just as fussy as EV tracking, I will definitely keep an eye out for the berry-gifting NPC on Route 5 though.

    Just for curiosity's sake, where can you get herbal medicines this early in the game? (Or is 4th gym somewhere in the middle?)
    Fourth Gym is in Nimbasa City, which is around the 1/3rd to middle portion of the game.



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    I have a quick question and it would be great if people could give their opinions. I beat Black Tower and I was resetting for a jolly nature for the shiny Gible and I was wondering if these IVs were good enough for things like PWT and Battle Subway. I only play in-game, but since the people in those battle institutions have perfect IVs and are EV trained, I would appreciate some feedback.

    Gible Jolly Nature. IVs:

    HP: 27-30
    Attack: 30-31
    Defense: 28
    Special Attack: 21-24
    Special Defense: 31
    Speed: 20

    The speed IV is kind of disappointing, but I wanted to ask if this Gible was worth keeping and if it could do well for the PWT. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 24karat View Post
    I have a quick question and it would be great if people could give their opinions. I beat Black Tower and I was resetting for a jolly nature for the shiny Gible and I was wondering if these IVs were good enough for things like PWT and Battle Subway. I only play in-game, but since the people in those battle institutions have perfect IVs and are EV trained, I would appreciate some feedback.

    Gible Jolly Nature. IVs:

    HP: 27-30
    Attack: 30-31
    Defense: 28
    Special Attack: 21-24
    Special Defense: 31
    Speed: 20

    The speed IV is kind of disappointing, but I wanted to ask if this Gible was worth keeping and if it could do well for the PWT. Thanks.
    Higher speed would obviously be preferred (I would personally aim for a 31 in Speed), but you could probably have success with what you've got now. I have some Emerald-born Pokemon on my W2 with less than ideal Speed IVs, and they've done fine in the PWT/Subway for the most part.

    But really, you'll just have to ask yourself whether you're willing to keep on resetting or whether you would just rather stop and keep what you've got. It's entirely up to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquarelle View Post
    Higher speed would obviously be preferred (I would personally aim for a 31 in Speed), but you could probably have success with what you've got now. I have some Emerald-born Pokemon on my W2 with less than ideal Speed IVs, and they've done fine in the PWT/Subway for the most part.

    But really, you'll just have to ask yourself whether you're willing to keep on resetting or whether you would just rather stop and keep what you've got. It's entirely up to you.
    Thank you for the reply. I did get a Gible with 31 IVs in speed several times, but their other IVs were pitiful to say the least. I try to get Pokemon with minimum 25 IVs in speed, but I'm hesitating on this one because its other stats are rather impressive. I could breed, but then I would lose the shiny. I don't mind resetting, but I'm just wondering if from an objective standpoint if this Gible's other stats compensate somewhat for its below average speed IV and if it is worth keeping considering I'm not going to battle online or anything like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 24karat View Post
    Thank you for the reply. I did get a Gible with 31 IVs in speed several times, but their other IVs were pitiful to say the least. I try to get Pokemon with minimum 25 IVs in speed, but I'm hesitating on this one because its other stats are rather impressive. I could breed, but then I would lose the shiny. I don't mind resetting, but I'm just wondering if from an objective standpoint if this Gible's other stats compensate somewhat for its below average speed IV and if it is worth keeping considering I'm not going to battle online or anything like that.
    If you dont plan to use it online, I think its viable to be used in-game, especially with fab IVs in its defences. A scarfed Garchomp can be a remedy to your woes if you are especially worried about the speed thing, if you dont mind the attack-lock. You can also breed it with it holding a power bracer to pass down the attack IV to its kid for a flawless 'Chomp.

    Anywayz,
    Q) My poke stopped eating Qualot Berry aftr just one. Does it mean its friendship has maxed or it has no EVs in Defence left?
    It has 112 Ev in Special Attack, and 82 in Speed. Reached the Subway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyshadonyx View Post
    Anywayz,
    Q) My poke stopped eating Qualot Berry aftr just one. Does it mean its friendship has maxed or it has no EVs in Defence left?
    It has 112 Ev in Special Attack, and 82 in Speed. Reached the Subway.
    I'm assuming you're getting the "it won't have any effect" message when you try to give your Pokemon another Qualot Berry? If so, that means that your Pokemon's friendship is maxed out AND it has zero EVs in Defence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyshadonyx View Post
    If you dont plan to use it online, I think its viable to be used in-game, especially with fab IVs in its defences. A scarfed Garchomp can be a remedy to your woes if you are especially worried about the speed thing, if you dont mind the attack-lock. You can also breed it with it holding a power bracer to pass down the attack IV to its kid for a flawless 'Chomp.
    I know the people in PWT/Battle Subway have flawless IVs and are EV trained, but does anyone know what natures they have? With Garchomp being Jolly, it would mean they would need a speed boosting nature to outspeed Garchomp for the base 100s Pokemon. Thanks for the scarf suggestion. I was going for a SD Garchomp to just sweep, but I might have to adjust if it constantly gets outsped. I did consider breeding it by finding a Ditto with 31 IVs in speed and get perfect IVs for its attack and speed, but then the offspring won't be shiny. I know there isn't really a difference because they almost look identical, but I just like the novelty I suppose.

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