Community POTW #78

[Ilan]

Aerial Ace is a no-miss move. The biggest reason I list those pokemon because its speed is high enough to make the first move without Trick Room. I didn't Archeops because its ability is the problem. It's also a real problem to get a Flying-type move on a pokemon that doesn't get taken down by Stone Edge; as well as Scared Sword and Leaf Blade. Either way, tt's going to be tough in a Triple Battle. I also made some additions.

aerial ace is a 60 BP attack even when *2 a neutral leaf blade or close combat are stronger..
Trick Room... stop mentioning it please..
archeops is a good counter- outspeeds and have a *4 STAB move against virizion... anyway your EV are also wrong.. I don't think it helps blue harvest.

sacred sword... isn't viable close combat is always superior in physical sets.. band if using calm mind the use focus miss..

[Kraleck]

lets see. grass is walled by sap sipper, fighting is stopped by ghosts, so you are then looking at stone edge or zen headbut on the rest talk sets. or just have others to counter those weaknesses- terrakion. what about a rest talk+justified abuse-room for 2 attacking moves, as the boosts are already done. So i would suggest stone edge and close combat/sacred sword. Oh, and the only reason I mentioned energy ball is that you have already got a recovery move.

Sorry, should've elaborated. Grass doesn't have bad coverage in general, but Rest-Talk is another story with dual-STAB Viriz', as you've shown here.

[Ilan]

Sorry, should've elaborated. Grass doesn't have bad coverage in general, but Rest-Talk is another story with dual-STAB Viriz', as you've shown here.

Grass does have bad coverage in OU it is full of steel and dragon types, grass is resisted by lots of types steel,flying,bug,poison,dragon,fire... good coverage huh?

[your boss]

Its a good thing Virizion has a Fighting STAB or else it is an inferior Cobalion.

@Philzone Sorry but Mienshao is still outsped by Virizion and most Mienshao don't run Flying Gem+Acrobatics plus that is outclassed by Tornadus, a better counter with better speed and STAB flying.

Prediction for next week: Kyurem.

[Rayofquazar]

Grass does have bad coverage in OU it is full of steel and dragon types, grass is resisted by lots of types steel,flying,bug,poison,dragon,fire... good coverage huh?

True... But most of grass types won't stay in to a Fire, Flying, Poison or Bug types cz they kill grass types easily. Steel has a load of resistances anyway. But still, Grass is a very bad attacking type but does get a super effective hit on Water, Rock and ground which are a common type offensively! (BTW Grass also is resisted by other Grass... You forgot to mention that!).
When someone uses an offensive grass type is to counter water, rock and ground types which is not bad at all!

[your boss]

Predictions for puns:

Virizion Wireless
En Gaurde my Deer Watson
Virizion plan starting at TREEhundred dollars.
Deer not, I will bring justice
Deer Devil
Deering the end of the Musketeer Quartet puns.

[sbktdreed]

Trick Room... stop mentioning it please..
archeops is a good counter- outspeeds and have a *4 STAB move against virizion... anyway your EV are also wrong. I don't think it helps blue harvest.

sacred sword... isn't viable close combat is always superior in physical sets.. band if using calm mind the use focus miss..

There are very few pokemon where the base speed is at least 100. Evs are not my thing and the Defense is the only stat that is not at least 90. Close Combat may be a good move, but its defenses gets lowered. Sacred Sword is a strong, rare move that is unaffected by target's stats.

[Ilan]

There are very few pokemon where the base speed is at least 100. Evs are not my thing and the Defense is the only stat that is not at least 90. Close Combat may be a good move, but its defenses gets lowered. Sacred Sword is a strong, rare move that is unaffected by target's stats.

So let's put kyurem it's signature moves cause they are rare... really? no..
close combat is so much better in offense maybe it lower defenses but if you don't kill and take a hit it is worse than lowering defenses..

if you don't know what EVs do ,why you post them? read some guides or play PO.. there are lots of pokemon over base 100......... we are talking about OU not NU...

yeah forgot that... grass resists grass well my point is grass is resisted by 7 types out of the total 17 types and now add sap sipper to the mix.
so sleep talk isn't too good due to bad coverage..

[Kraleck]

There are very few pokemon where the base speed is at least 100. Evs are not my thing and the Defense is the only stat that is not at least 90. Close Combat may be a good move, but its defenses gets lowered. Sacred Sword is a strong, rare move that is unaffected by target's stats.

Close Combat lowering both defenses is the least of Virizion's worries with a quad-Weakness to Flying Type and the availability of Physical Moves of that particular Type...

[your boss]

Its not like Virizion is going to sweep an entire team.

[Ilan]

Its not like Virizion is going to sweep an entire team.

if you let it set up it can surely sweep a team
it is fast and have decent offenses...

[your boss]

if you let it set up it can surely sweep a team
it is fast and have decent offenses...

True, but with Tornadus and Tornadus-T around, its going to need some help, but yeah this thing is great at checking Rain.

[MetalCrow]

True, but with Tornadus and Tornadus-T around, its going to need some help, but yeah this thing is great at checking Rain.

Other than the fact that tornadus is on most rain teams

[Kraleck]

Other than the fact that tornadus is on most rain teams

Even then, you'd have to have some kind of Physical Flying-Type Move on Tornadus to effectively handle Virizion. It has access to Stone Edge to handle Flying Types, despite Tornadus's Speed advantage, so you cannot guarantee Torna' will do its job unless Viriz' is switching into it...

[your boss]

Ever since BW2 came out, the POTW hasn't got much love lately

Still, Virizion is a very unpredictable sweeper.

[MetalCrow]

Even then, you'd have to have some kind of Physical Flying-Type Move on Tornadus to effectively handle Virizion. It has access to Stone Edge to handle Flying Types, despite Tornadus's Speed advantage, so you cannot guarantee Torna' will do its job unless Viriz' is switching into it...

Dude...you have no idea...it doesn't take much for a 4x multiplier to start making numbers look big...even more so when you start with big numbers...consider it for a moment...tornadus's sp.att is base 125 and hurricane is a base 120 power attack...now tack on a 4x multiplier to that...considering that tornadus usually invests alot of ev's into sp.att, and virizion doesn't usually invest in it's sp.def, it is a pretty lethal end result

[Ghosts of the Forums]

Maybe virizion is fighting the so much more popular therian forme. That's like a 20 point difference. But virizion is still dead.

[Barbeller]

Just wondering about what happens now. Does Blue Harvest continue the POTW, or does TrollFreak, Jesusfreak94, or someone else take over? Just a question.

Also, Virizion only really has three good sets, Swords Dance, Calm Mind, and Work Up, and even the last one is shaky. Swords Dance should run SD/CC/SE/Leaf Blast, Clam Mind should be CM/Giga Drain/HP Ice/Focus Blast, Work Up would be Work Up/CC/HP Ice/Giga Drain. Virizion can't really run an effective choice set, or offence set, due to its rather shallow movepool, and underwhelming attacking stats. It has good speed and sp.def, though.

[your boss]

Just wondering about what happens now. Does Blue Harvest continue the POTW, or does TrollFreak, Jesusfreak94, or someone else take over? Just a question.

From what I heard, BH is probably doing this one since TrollFreak had to go somewhere.

[sbktdreed]

Close Combat lowering both defenses is the least of Virizion's worries with a quad-Weakness to Flying Type and the availability of Physical Moves of that particular Type...

So let's put kyurem it's signature moves cause they are rare... really? no..
close combat is so much better in offense maybe it lower defenses but if you don't kill and take a hit it is worse than lowering defenses..

if you don't know what EVs do ,why you post them? read some guides or play PO.. there are lots of pokemon over base 100......... we are talking about OU not NU...

yeah forgot that... grass resists grass well my point is grass is resisted by 7 types out of the total 17 types and now add sap sipper to the mix.
so sleep talk isn't too good due to bad coverage..

Don't get me wrong, Close Combat is a move I would use on some pokemon.
As for the EVs, I had a history of complants about NOT putting EVs on my movesets.
Alot of the pokemon with a base speed at least 100, have low defense.