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    Quote Originally Posted by Serebii View Post
    I just asked Sab Mas to confirm translation, we're not 100% either way but, according to him

    "It says it's not the same Mewtwo after venturing out into the world following the first movie. It's been changed by what it saw"
    This is a little better, but it leaves me confused because I thought this was where Mewtwo Returns concluded his character. Why is this being treated as new?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Great Butler View Post
    This is a little better, but it leaves me confused because I thought this was where Mewtwo Returns concluded his character. Why is this being treated as new?
    Yeah, I agree with you. I really hope they don't ruin Mewtwo.

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    I don't see how they can ruin Mewtwo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Janovy View Post
    I don't see how they can ruin Mewtwo.
    When he ended on such a perfect note, there are actually many ways they could ruin him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Janovy View Post
    I don't see how they can ruin Mewtwo.
    Discarding the events of Mewtwo Returns is one way. I don't think they'll actually do that, but I'm still left a little confused by what Yuyama seems to be saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pokemaniac24 View Post
    When he ended on such a perfect note, there are actually many ways they could ruin him.
    I agree with Janovy. I mean, he did develop a bit during his appearances and by this movie, he could have made a big development in the case that he's much kinder and trustworthy. Though the development could be that he went back to how he originally felt after seeing certain stuff or it could be something completely different.

    I kind of like that he's changed, but I hope that I'll like how he's changed, if Serebii and Sab are right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Great Butler View Post
    Discarding the events of Mewtwo Returns is one way. I don't think they'll actually do that, but I'm still left a little confused by what Yuyama seems to be saying.
    I don't think that's a possibility since Yuyama refers to the first movie.

    "It says it's not the same Mewtwo after venturing out into the world following the first movie. It's been changed by what it saw"

    So, it's definitely the same Mewtwo but who has become more of a good Pokémon.

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    If this is the same Mewtwo from the 1st Movie, I wonder what it'll think of Ash's Charizard now since he saw it when it was being disobedient to Ash XD
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    Quote Originally Posted by playerking View Post
    I agree with Janovy. I mean, he did develop a bit during his appearances and by this movie, he could have made a big development in the case that he's much kinder and trustworthy. Though the development could be that he went back to how he originally felt after seeing certain stuff or it could be something completely different.

    I kind of like that he's changed, but I hope that I'll like how he's changed, if Serebii and Sab are right.
    For me personally, I could see them ruining him in a lot of ways. Not to be too pessimistic though. We don't know much yet so I'll keep my hopes up. I'm not against him changing at all though especially if I like where they are going with his change.

    Quote Originally Posted by Janovy View Post
    I don't think that's a possibility since Yuyama refers to the first movie.

    "It says it's not the same Mewtwo after venturing out into the world following the first movie. It's been changed by what it saw"

    So, it's definitely the same Mewtwo but who has become more of a good Pokémon.
    Being changed doesn't necessarily mean he'll be better but yeah, I agree with you. I doubt they would make him evil again especially since we already saw him as evil in Movie 1.

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    Pretty sure what it means that Mewtwo is still iffy on whether he can trust humans or not and that Ash is gonna have to work to get on his good side again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1rkhachatryan View Post
    Pretty sure what it means that Mewtwo is still iffy on whether he can trust humans or not and that Ash is gonna have to work to get on his good side again.
    I agree with this. I could definitely see this happening. Giovanni and TR scientists made Mewtwo hate humans and then Ash made him trust them so after seeing what TP are doing with the Genesects, I could definitely see Mewtwo getting angry at humans again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pokemaniac24 View Post
    I agree with this. I could definitely see this happening. Giovanni and TR scientists made Mewtwo hate humans and then Ash made him trust them so after seeing what TP are doing with the Genesects, I could definitely see Mewtwo getting angry at humans again.
    This explanation makes sense. Discovering that other humans were evil enough to conduct the same experiment he thought only Team Rocket did could have disillusioned him, not in the way it made him evil before but now in a cynical sense, where he is not questioning his own existence but the worth of the world around him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Great Butler View Post
    This explanation makes sense. Discovering that other humans were evil enough to conduct the same experiment he thought only Team Rocket did could have disillusioned him, not in the way it made him evil before but now in a cynical sense, where he is not questioning his own existence but the worth of the world around him.
    Yep, exactly and it's interesting because outside of TR, Ash and a few other people he invited to his castle, he is not really familiar with the rest of the world and the people in it so I could definitely see them exploring that more with this movie.

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    I'm 100% sure Mewtwo's not going to be evil here. Maybe cynical and all "give me one reason why I shouldn't nuke your continent" at worst. And I'm guessing that it's the same Mewtwo seen in M01, but either Mewtwo Returns in non-canon now, or the "changed by what it saw" is a reference to the special.
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    im late to the party but whatever

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    Seriously now, I am soooooooooo happy. I can't wait for this.... I realy hope it's the same Mewtwo, I mean there's no reason it shouldn't be... I really wonder how Mewtwo will come back though, will it come back on its own or what? I miss the older design, the new one looks odd, but still epic :P MEWTWO!! XD
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    I knew there was a reason I wasn't hyped for this movie.

    It not being the same Mewtwo was a given. Even the Mew in Movie 8 was not the same one from Movie 1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyberCubed View Post
    I knew there was a reason I wasn't hyped for this movie.

    It not being the same Mewtwo was a given. Even the Mew in Movie 8 was not the same one from Movie 1.
    Except it is the same Mewtwo.

    Do you even bother reading all the recent posts before posting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Janovy View Post
    Except it is the same Mewtwo.

    Do you even bother reading all the recent posts before posting?
    We have two conflicting translations, nobody knows for sure what the right one is. The "reawakening" part makes it sound like a new Mewtwo woke up after being cloned, similar to the one in the first movie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyberCubed View Post
    We have two conflicting translations, nobody knows for sure what the right one is. The "reawakening" part makes it sound like a new Mewtwo woke up after being cloned, similar to the one in the first movie.
    Except Dogasu confirmed that it's not 'reawakening' but 'awakening'. And by awakening, it doesn't necessarily mean literal awakening, more like metaphorical awakening. Also, the second translation is correct.

    "It says it's not the same Mewtwo after venturing out into the world following the first movie. It's been changed by what it saw."

    It is the same Mewtwo, however, it may have become a better Pokémon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Janovy View Post
    It is the same Mewtwo, however, it may have become a better Pokémon.
    We'll have to wait and see, but don't get your hopes up. Even the scans in the magazines make this Mewtwo look younger than the other one. He doesn't look as distinguished.

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