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    Quote Originally Posted by Pokemaniac24 View Post
    I mean Team Rocket by far have been the most significant villains in the anime. Yes, TRio were the ones who showed up most often but they are still TR members trying to please Giovanni. Butch and Cassidy as well as Dr.Namba have shown up often. You have Attila and Hun who showed up in the Legend of Thunder special. Professor Sebastian, Tyson, The Iron Masked Marauder, Annie and Oakley (in the dub), Matori, Pierce, Dr.Zager, Domino, the Grunts and Giovanni. TR have a big role in the anime.
    Exactly. Members have been present in each and every region we've seen in the anime so far. TR has the biggest role in the anime of the villainous organizations in terms of how wide-spread it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwail8023 View Post
    Exactly. Members have been present in each and every region we've seen in the anime so far. TR has the biggest role in the anime of the villainous organizations in terms of how wide-spread it is.
    jJM are so incompetent I would feel embarrassed if I knew they represented me.


    Also genesect needs to win vs mewtwo. The amount of gen 1 support is too much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pokemonsquared View Post
    jJM are so incompetent I would feel embarrassed if I knew they represented me.


    Also genesect needs to win vs mewtwo. The amount of gen 1 support is too much.
    1) ROFL. They aren't the ideal group to showcase for TR, that's for sure. XD.

    2) Knowing the anime, it's gonna be some cheesy "forgive each other" moments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pokemonsquared View Post
    Also genesect needs to win vs mewtwo. The amount of gen 1 support is too much.
    I don't think it has anything to do with supporting the first generation. It all just depends on how the battle between Mewtwo and Genesect play out, since Mewtwo is believed to be the world's strongest Pokémon, and Genesect was modified to be powerful as well. Something tells me Mewtwo will have a close victory, but there might not actually be a declared winner unless you call "calming Genesect down" a victory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kutie Pie View Post
    I don't think it has anything to do with supporting the first generation. It all just depends on how the battle between Mewtwo and Genesect play out, since Mewtwo is believed to be the world's strongest Pokémon, and Genesect was modified to be powerful as well. Something tells me Mewtwo will have a close victory, but there might not actually be a declared winner unless you call "calming Genesect down" a victory.
    I think it's gonna end in a tie and forgiveness esque ending. XD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kutie Pie View Post
    I don't think it has anything to do with supporting the first generation. It all just depends on how the battle between Mewtwo and Genesect play out, since Mewtwo is believed to be the world's strongest Pokémon, and Genesect was modified to be powerful as well. Something tells me Mewtwo will have a close victory, but there might not actually be a declared winner unless you call "calming Genesect down" a victory.
    Genesect could have been made with anti mewtwo tech.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwail8023 View Post
    1) ROFL. They aren't the ideal group to showcase for TR, that's for sure. XD.

    2) Knowing the anime, it's gonna be some cheesy "forgive each other" moments.
    Yeah, but it's especially funny when they acknowledge how they suck and say "now let's show them how a real trio of loosers is supposed to act!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pikafleg View Post
    Yeah, but it's especially funny when they acknowledge how they suck and say "now let's show them how a real trio of loosers is supposed to act!"
    Agreed.

    You know how they should act more often?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pokemonsquared View Post
    Genesect could have been made with anti mewtwo tech.
    Besides Dark-types and possibly Bug-types, we don't know Mewtwo's weakness XD. I doubt Team Plasma knew of him, so they wouldn't know how to make Genesect ineffective against Mewtwo. Granted, the dual Bug/Steel could give him difficulty, but not indestructible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pokemonsquared View Post
    Genesect could have been made with anti mewtwo tech.
    TP likely didn't know about Mewtwo... in fact, most people in the anime universe shouldn't know about it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joltik-Kid View Post
    TP likely didn't know about Mewtwo... in fact, most people in the anime universe shouldn't know about it
    There's no way to know how much information about Mewtwo has reached the public at this point. If The Mastermind of Mirage Pokemon is canon, Oak, Misty, May and Max all know about him and Dr. Yung might still be alive. Even failing that, it was never shown certainly and irreversibly that the only Team Rocket members who knew about Mewtwo were at Mt. Quena and got their memories wiped.

    Or maybe someone discovered Mewtwo living in that city.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwail8023 View Post
    Agreed.

    You know how they should act more often?

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    I really laughed at Mewtwo's nose. XD In a good way. I don't mind his change. All old Pokémon are changed in some way.

    I love Mewtwo, so I'm sure I'll really like this movie. Shame it will take so long time before I can watch it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dman_dustin View Post
    There's no normal way to have Genesect talking or telepathy, without sounding creepy as hell or weird as hell.

    Not saying it won't happen, I just don't want to see it.
    Genesect sounding creepy as hell would be brilliant.
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    Isn't Genesect a machine?? I feel like it talking would just be weird as hell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1rkhachatryan View Post
    Isn't Genesect a machine?? I feel like it talking would just be weird as hell.

    Its a bug turned into a machine or atleast we assume thats the case,well couldn't TP give him the ability to talk when "upgrading" him? A lot of the other legendaries seems to talk through telepathy.

    Anyway its not a big deal for me, if it was my choice I wouldn't make any legendary talk but if they do I don't really care but yeah this is Pokemon not Digimon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pepsi_Plunge View Post
    Its a bug turned into a machine or atleast we assume thats the case,well couldn't TP give him the ability to talk when "upgrading" him? A lot of the other legendaries seems to talk through telepathy.

    Anyway its not a big deal for me, if it was my choice I wouldn't make any legendary talk but if they do I don't really care but yeah this is Pokemon not Digimon.
    Ya but it would still be weird. I don't really want to listen to a guy talk robot for a movie lol.
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    They could give him a robotic tone but do something unique with it. Like maybe use a manner of speaking that implies Genesect is batcrap insane?
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    I'd prefer that it wouldn't talk. Mewtwo will undoubtly talk, and that's all well and good. But too many of the newest legendaries talk. Only the Kamis and Meloetta doesn't talk. D:
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    Quote Originally Posted by MastersOfMonsters View Post
    I'd prefer that it wouldn't talk. Mewtwo will undoubtly talk, and that's all well and good. But too many of the newest legendaries talk. Only the Kamis and Meloetta doesn't talk. D:
    Are you saying lgendaries are stupid?

    Besides he can have a voicebox.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MastersOfMonsters View Post
    I'd prefer that it wouldn't talk. Mewtwo will undoubtly talk, and that's all well and good. But too many of the newest legendaries talk. Only the Kamis and Meloetta doesn't talk. D:
    I agree, Mewtwo's enougth talking lol. Besides, there is like five of them.
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    Am I the only person who would be perfectly fine with the Genesects speaking? I don't really see what's so bad about it. It allows the writers to do things they wouldn't be able to do if the legendaries didn't speak.
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    Quote Originally Posted by diakyu View Post
    Am I the only person who would be perfectly fine with the Genesects speaking? I don't really see what's so bad about it. It allows the writers to do things they wouldn't be able to do if the legendaries didn't speak.
    I feel that all the Genesects speaking would be a bit... excessive, even if by doing so the writers would make the job much easier for the animators (since they don't have to rely much in body language) and the Pokemon are easier to understand. However, I think that Red Genesect, as the leader, should be the one to talk.
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    It's not like Kyurem vs. the Sword of Justice where there were five different species talking, it's just two, and there's more than one of one of those two. Not having the Genesects talk COULD be creepy, if done right... done wrong, they become bland and characterless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cresselia92 View Post
    I feel that all the Genesects speaking would be a bit... excessive, even if by doing so the writers would make the job much easier (since they don't have to rely much in body language). However, I think that Red Genesect, as the leader, should be the one to talk.
    Yeah, the leader should be the one who talks since it has the brains of the group.

    /lame

    Also just a weird thought: if the Red Genesect talks in the movie, what if it has the tone of a female?

    *beat*

    No, seriously. What if this Genesect has the implications of a female? It really makes no sense that Genesect wouldn't have a gender because it used to exist in prehistoric times. It apparently wasn't Steel that we know of, so it had to have a gender. All the non-Legendary Rock-types have genders after all, and it's say to say Genesect was probably a dual Bug-type, or had Rock to it--hell, Forretress, the only other Bug/Steel (I know of) has male and female genders!

    Also, a female leader of a small swarm/hoard/whatever of Bugs makes sense, you know? And also because it's the color red it would give off the symbolism of the female menstrual*BRICK'D*
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