Pokemon Riddle

[Chibi_Muffin]

Sableye? Has gem eyes and debuted in Sapphire. Was originally the only Ghost/Dark Pokemon, then Spiritomb came along.

[octoboy]

Nope. Moving the riddle to the next page:

Once a light among the black
When black arrived I took that back
Yet still I shine bright like a gem
And shed a lot more light than them

Incorrect guesses: Misdreavus, Umbreon, Reshiram, Tynamo, Moltres, Lanturn, Zapdos, Suicune, Groudon, Sableye

Hints:
- Two lines in the riddle directly refer to generations
- Not legendary
- The second line does not refer to the subjects no longer being unique as much as it does its company being less uniform

Edit: Aww, page 4 twice? Come on, guys, keep trying, you can get this.

How about I give a nice big hint after 3 more guesses? That could help get things moving, right?

[Tumnus]

I'm going to guess ampharos

Once a light among the black: It was awesome in gen 2
When black arrived I took that back: It became worse because thunderpunch was not as useful.
Yet still I shine bright like a gem: It shines brightly and has a gem on it's forehead
And shed a lot more light than them: Its lights can be seen from outer space

[Charikachu]

Is it Cherubi/Cherrim?

Once a light among the black
When black arrived I took that back
Yet still I shine bright like a gem
And shed a lot more light than them

It's a wild guess, could fit with the description.
Does line 3 refer to Gen 4

[Z-nogyroP]

Hmm... Rotom, perhaps?

Once a light among the black- Only Electric/Ghost type.
When black arrived I took that back- Its forms had a type swap in Black, making them non-Ghosts anymore.
Yet I still shine bright like a gem- Rotom's forms are still Electric.
And shed a lot more light than them- Regular Rotom has the brightest aura-light-electric-thingy around it.

Does the "black" you refer to relate to the Dark Type or Ghost type?

[octoboy]

Good guess, Z-nogyroP, but no. Your Tumnus's guesses aren't correct. I'm not going to say whether Charikachu's was because no reasons were given.

No part of the riddle references the dark or ghost type, or any pokémon of those types.

[Charikachu]

Well I was guessing the black was referring to the Overcast form and the light was referring to the Sunshine form.

[Z-nogyroP]

Er... Hoothoot/Noctowl? This is going off the logic that Noctowl could learn Flash in Gen 3 but can't in Gen 5, and is also the only Pokemon you can only find at night that learns Flash.

[octoboy]

Nope. Z-nogyroP is getting some good guesses, but neither his guess nor Charikachu's are correct.

And because I said I'd do it, I'll give a really big hint here. This entire riddle is specifically about pokémons' [English] names.

[{(•)___(•)}]

Ok, this is probably way off, but... Lileep?

It's from the gem generation, and it used to be the only Pokemon starting with "Lil" until Black and White introduced Lillipup and Lilligant. The "shed light" part could be a reference to the fact that it's a fossil Pokemon that "sheds light" on scientific questions as opposed to a literal light.

[Z-nogyroP]

EDIT: Ignore my previous guess (if you even saw it). I think I've got it. Torchic/Combusken/Blaziken?

Once a light among the black- It has the word torch in its name.
When black arrived I took that back- With the introduction of Emboar, everyone hated the Fire/Fighting type.
Yet I still shine bright like a gem-It's from the gem generation.
And shed a lot more light than them-Torchic has the brightest colours of the Fire starters.

[octoboy]

Z-nogyroP has guessed the answer correctly!

By "among the black", I meant that while most other unevolved fire starters had names that referenced blackened or burnt things (the char in charmander/chimchar and the cinders in cyndaquil), torchic's name referred to something bright, a torch. The second line meant that after the 5th gen came, torchic was no longer the only unevolved fire starter whose name didn't refer to something burnt and blackened, as tepig's name didn't either, but torchic was still the only one whose name referred to something bright, hence the final line.

Go ahead and post something brain-straining, Z-nogyroP! You got this one!

[Z-nogyroP]

Yay, I guessed it right! Even though none of my reasons apart from the torch one were correct!

Anywho, I hope this one isn't too hard(but hopefully hard enough that I get a while as riddle master :3).

I am a secret, hidden treat
Although my scent is far from sweet
I am hated and abhorred
Leeching static from the core

Good luck!

[InfernalBlaze]

Is it Voltorb/Electrode?

I am a secret, hidden treat They can befound disguised as item balls.
Although my scent is far from sweet I assume
I am hated and abhorred They are generally disliked for their diguising and the fact that they tend to explode at random.
Leeching static from the core One of their abilities is Static.

[ToeyJoey]

For much the same reasons as above I say Foongus.

[Z-nogyroP]

Good guesses, but no to both of you.

Incorrect-Voltorb, Foongus.

Oh, and I forgot to mention. I will take any guesses as counting the whole evolution line.

[Dragontail]

My guess is Feebas. It's a hard-to-get treat, though sucks in the long run.

[Crimson Penguin]

Er... Is it Rotom-C?

I am a secret, hidden treat: Rotom is found hidden in a TV, and you need the Secret Key to unlock its Cut Forme in Platinum.
Although my scent is far from sweet: Lawnmowers generally don't smell too good.
I am hated and abhorred: It causes a lot of havoc and mischief, so it's probably disliked by a lot of people.
Leeching static from the core: It possesses electrical appliances and uses their "core" energy.

I'm probably way off, but that was the first thing that came to mind.

[Minnah_23]

It sounds like an Electric Pokemon to me. I'm thinking Pikachu.

1st line: In Gen 5, it could no longer be found in the wild, but is still referred to in some parts of the game (such as the Castelia billboard)
2nd and 3rd: Everyone knows Pikachu, therefore some people dislike it for its mainstream popularity. They don't necessarily hate/abhor the Pokemon, just its popularity in the media.
4th line: Electric Pokemon are known for feeding off electricity from sources other than natural lightning. In The Electric Tale of Pikachu, he is introduced by feeding on electricity from Ash's house.

[octoboy]

My guess is Stunfisk. The bottom line appears to mark the subject as an electric type, the second line would work due to fish smelling fishy, and stunfisk seems to be on the unpopular side, explaining the third line. Not sure about the first line though. Maybe because, being a flatfish, it hides on the bottom of the water?