First Team Round 2

[mparr65]

So to start this off, I'm kinda new to competitive Pokemon. I posted a Sun team a few days ago and got some nice tips and wanted to see if you guys thought this looked better.

Ninetales @ Leftovers
Ability: Drought
EVs: 176 SpD, 252 HP, 80 Def
Nature: Modest
- move: Sunny Day
- move: Hidden Power Ice
- move: Fireblast
- move: Will-o-wisp

So I decided to start a Sunny Day team because fire's always been my favorite type. Charizard So naturally I have to start with Drought. Suggested that a bulkier set was used, has actually helped quite a bit in keeping him alive.

Venusaur @ Life Orb
Ability: Chlorophyll
EVs: 172 Atk, 140 SpA, 196 Spe
Nature: Rash
- move: Growth
- move: Solarbeam
- move: Earthquake
- move: Sleep Powder

When first deciding on this team I realized water pokemon wouldn't be fun, and hearing about Chlorophyll on Venusaur I wanted to give him a shot. Growth thrown in to make some pretty STAB Solarbeams Earthquake and Sleep Powder to help get a free turn to set up.

Volcarona @ Leftovers
Ability: Flame Body
EVs: 240 HP, 216 Def, 52 Speed
Nature: Bold
- move: Quiver Dance
- move: Fiery Dance
- move: Bug Buzz
- move: Roost

Next choice was Volcarona. Seemed like a very interesting choice, added more coverage with the added Bug type, and chose to go a little bulky and use morning sun to set up with Quiver Dance. Roost replaced Morning Sun due to morning sun not being as effective without the sun.

Infernape @ Life Orb
Ability: Blaze
EVs: 4 SpA, 252 Atk, 252 Speed
Nature: Naive
- move: Overheat
- move: Close Combat
- move: U-turn
- move: Stone Edge

Infernape is a Semi-mixed sweeper more focusing on physical though. Close Combat to help with pesky Special walls (the cursed Blisseys and Chanseys) with Stone Edge to help with flying mostly.

Vaporeon @ Leftovers
Ability: Water Absorb
EVs: 252 Def, 248 HP, 8 SpD
Nature: Bold
- move: Wish
- move: Protect
- move: Scald
- move: Toxic

Latias fulfilled the roll of wish giver but was replaced with Vaporeon. Vaporeon has much higher health and therefore much bigger wishes. Also was used to help hopefully fill some weakness(rock/ground outside of venusaur) and runs a defensive set with toxic and scald for poison and burn effects to help wear down other walls and hopefully prevent some pokes from setting up. Protect was used to gain some health from Leftovers and help with scouting. Scald was also used for the nice STAB, especially when facing rain teams.

Forretress @ Leftovers
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 176 Def, 252 HP, 80 Speed
Nature: Relaxed
- move: Stealth Rock
- move: Spikes
- move: Rapid Spin
- move: Volt Switch

Finally a little bit of Defense. Thought some form of physical wall was needed because the rest of the team can't take too many hits. Loved Forretress for the fact that it can spike and spin and has pretty good defensive stats. Pretty sure everyone here knows the reasoning on the bottom three moves :P But for Explosion, didn't know if that or toxic spikes is better, thoughts? Stealth Rock replaced explosion. Never got much use out of explosion and Stealth Rock helps with a bunch of teams. Making them think about switching and putting off some good damage. Completely shuts down some other fire teams, especially if I can keep their spinner off the field, or even better kill it.


So hopefully this looks better and I look forward to hearing your feedback. Thanks again for all the help so far. Together we can work to rid the world of Pokenoobs, one step at a time!

[mparr65]

Update, as for problems, I'm hating Gengar (especially pain split) and get hit really hard by landorus-t. Also a lot of problems with Xatu bouncing everything back.

[Patri25]

Your Ninetails have the ability Drought and you put the move sunny day, change sunny day for another move I suggest solarbeam.
Drought and sunnny day have the same effect.Solarbeam attack in only one turn with Drought.

[Ttar's stone edge]

he has sunny day to perma win the weather war. I'd go energy ball>solarbeam just in case you lose weather war. Just a possibility.

[mparr65]

Yeah sunny day is to help win the weather war. If I start with Ninetales, he's normally faster so the other team's weather sticks. And also when I put him in to gain weather, lots of times I can call them switching there weather inducer in and throw out a sunny day so I get it right back. Though I could throw Energy Ball/Solarbeam on instead of Will-o-Wisp. Thoughts on that?

[Jonah the Slaking]

I suggest putting Sunny Day on another mon, but your current team doesn't have any room for it. Try replacing something with this little guy:

Sableye @ Heat Rock
Trait: Prankster
EVs: 252 HP / 128 Def / 128 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Sunny Day
- Recover
- Will-O-Wisp
- Night Shade

I don't know who to replace though. Also, put HP Rock on Volcarona. It takes out Dragons and, with enough boosts, can easily defeat Heatran.

[Voice Of The Forest]

vaporeon wants hydration to counter defensive politoed

[FirstRate]

Glad to see you've implemented the changes!. Your team looks really good.

To solve your Gengar and Landorus-I problem, I suggest using a Choice Band Mamoswine over Infernape:

Mamoswine @ Choice Band
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Trait: Thick Fat / Snow Cloak
Jolly Nature (+Spe, - SpA)
Ice Shard
Earthquake
Stone Edge
Superpower / Icicle Crash

With Ice Shard, you OHKO all formes of the Genies, most Dragon-types, Gengar, and so many other Pokemon. It also loses its Water weakness due to the Sun.

Other than that it looks good! Good luck!

[mparr65]

Updates:

Volcarona @ Leftovers
Ability: Flame Body
EVs: 240 HP, 216 Def, 52 Speed
Nature: Bold
- move: Quiver Dance
- move: Fiery Dance
- move: Bug Buzz
- move: Hidden Power Rock

Added HP Rock. Added coverage has been great. Has also helped a ton once set up on switch in Dragonites.

Mamoswine @ Choice Scarf
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Trait: Thick Fat
Jolly Nature (+Spe, - SpA)
Ice Shard
Earthquake
Stone Edge
Superpower

Mamoswine replaced Infernape. He was mostly brought in to help with Genies, dragons, and gengar. Has helped out a lot with Dragonites, especially when I have stealth rocks up. As for the item, I ran it with Choice Band but switched. Reason: was always being outsped by the things I brought it in to help with in the first place. Too slow for Dragonite, Gengar, etc. So he was never getting any hits off. Thought the reduced damage hurts, a weaker hit is better than no hit at all. Also, no body expects it. Nice element of surprise because no one ever sees it coming.

[Ghosts of the Forums]

first, why didn't you just edit the original post of your first team and then bump your first team. I also like to use mamoswine, and from my experience, mamo NEEDS adamant or he's next to useless.

[Ghosts of the Forums]

first, why didn't you just edit the original post of your first team and then bump your first team. I also like to use mamoswine, and from my experience, mamo NEEDS adamant or he's next to useless.

[Ghosts of the Forums]

crap. sorry about the double post, I'm on my 3ds, which tends to be problematic.