Last edited by Endolise; 8th October 2012 at 3:29 PM.
Originally Posted by Ellie
wait, pokemon was normal at one point?
nah, i don't really think its getting weird.
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They just don't care about nonsense arguments about numbers becoming slightly bigger being a bad thing because someone said so.
I mean, its not like they are deliberately trying to make as many legendaries as possible just to piss off people like shinyumbreon.
If you do some research, most of them have some very interesting backgrounds and bases and were likely added because they thought the idea was interesting enough.
It's not like there is even a lot of Legendary Pokemon anyways, Legendary Pokemon make a total of around 7% of overall Pokemon. There's only been around a 4% increase of Legendary Pokemon since the first generation. Breaking it down even more:
Generation 1-151 total Pokemon, 5 Legendary Pokemon, 3.1% Legendary Pokemon of the generation, Regional Pokedex, and total.
Generation 2-100 total Pokemon, 6 Legendary Pokemon, 6% Legendary Pokemon of the generation, 4.4% Legendary Pokemon for Regional Pokedex and total.
Generation 3-135 total Pokemon, 10 Legendary Pokemon, 7.4% Legendary Pokemon of the generation, 4.9% Legendary Pokemon for Regional Pokedex, 5.4% Legendary Pokemon total.
Generation 4-107 total Pokemon, 14 Legendary Pokemon(Phione included), 13% Legendary Pokemon of the generation, 4% Legendary Pokemon for Regional Pokedex(DP)/3.3% Legendary Pokemon for Regional Pokedex(Platinum), 7.1% Legendary Pokemon total.
Generation 5-156 total Pokemon, 13 Legendary Pokemon, 8.3% Legendary Pokemon of the generation and Regional Pokedex(B/W)/4.3% Legendary Pokemon for Regional Pokedex(B2/W2), 7.2% Legendary Pokemon total.
So for the most part, the regional dex has always been around 4% Legendary, with the exception of the first series of 5th generation which was twice that.
The amount of Legendary Pokemon added in total has gone up only around 1% each generation, with the exception of generation 4 which went up almost by 2% as well as generation 5 which only added around 0.1%.
Generation 4 added the most Legendary Pokemon , but it also was the second lowest for Legendary in Regional Pokedex, for both series of the games.
And no, I didn't count formes/forms, as it's still the same Pokemon regardless of the change of look and stats. I also didn't count Legendary Pokemon that weren't in the regional dex when it came to doing the regional dex part, as they aren't registered in the Pokedex, so even though B2/W2 has a ton of Legendary Pokemon you can get, a lot aren't in the regional dex, plus it's all post game, which means more Pokemon for you to get from past games, nothing wrong with adding in Legendary Pokemon from past games to post game of new games.
Overall, there isn't a lot of Legendary Pokemon during your game play, as I said, only around 4% for most games. Unless you consider that a lot...which I suppose all generations had a lot then.
There simply is no limit to how much they can/should/will/whatever add to the franchise. There is no such thing as "not needed" or whatever, there is no criteria for that. You may not like the amount, but that makes no difference, your personal taste is just that, personal, others wont feel the same, and your feelings aren't in anyway a fact of the matter. There is no criteria for what makes a Legendary Pokemon other then Gamefreak saying it's one.
So again, unless you consider 4% and 7% to be a large amount, then no, not a lot of Legendary Pokemon, and there's no such thing as "not needed".
Here's the way I look at it. Yes, the first 150 were the best, yes, they may have gone overboard with some things, but seriously- If they hadn't made more Pokémon, what would have happened? Nothing.
Okay, think of it this way. During the first generation, all they had was the 150, right? So everyone who owned the game had practically the same exact teams. There was no variety, the best Pokémon had advantages and that was that. They made it better by creating new Pokémon, I don't care what anyone says. If the first generation stayed the way it was forever it would be like having only 150 pieces of clothing in the world, everyone would be wearing the same thing, no? Exactly. They needed more Pokémon. And now with 600 some Pokémon, the possibilities are practically endless!
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If you don't want to catch or fuse a pokemon then don't! The people at gamefreak aren't going to change everything just for one person! For the record I know quite a lot of people who think the fusion thing is really cool. I've been playing Pokémon for 10 years and I'm thirteen years old and I don't think it's lost it's touch in fact I think it's got better (although it doesn't get better then ruby and sapphire) but again this is just my opinion.
I could kinda see what he's saying, cause people say that about big titles on the console.. for example, Halo 2. How everyone said it was so perfect, and halo 3 was ruined.. But Halo 3 was definitely the best, Halo Reach is terrible.. They try added more ****, so you aren't buying the same game.. How people say CoD 4 is the best, I could agree with that.. Hit detection is perfect. No lag.. Clean gameplay, and yet simply and fun.. Now there's **** flying around everywhere, uav's counter uav's. choppers. campers.. So I can relate to where he's coming from.. Halo 3 I spent a lot of time on, but I balanced it well, so I don't think it was a waste.. but Everything since... yeah basically a waste..
Yes pokemon IS getting wierder!
Example:Vanill-familly,Trubbish,Garbador,Gothorita,The ice guy who has only a face,Confrigrigus....I think that's it.
Perhaps you don't like their designs for whatever reason or whatever, but the Pokemon you listed aren't any "weirder" then all the bunch we've gotten throughout the generations. It's not like weird things are anything bad anyways.
So no, Pokemon isn't getting weirder, it's always been weird with the Pokemon designs. And there's nothing to say "this" is weird then "that", other then personal perception.
Pokemon isn't getting "weirder". In fact, Pokemon is getting cooler. I'm itching to get White 2!
Pokemon can never have too many legendaries. But they COULD have more dragon types...xD
Since when has catching wild animals in small balls which clearly must act as some sort of hyperspace wormhole portal thing (since clearly, a pokemon weighing 100's of pounds couldn't fit inside an orb the size of a young child's fist and then be carried around effortlessly) and then using said animals for battles has never been weird. Pokemon has, as a series, right from the beginning exploring ideas that are either impossible or improbable and even ideas which have become actualities, such as cloning , DNA splicing (which occurs in labs, although in a much less dramitic form then literally fusing two beings into one), alternate universes, wormholes ETC, all wrapped up as a seemingly simple "children's" game.
And If I haven't messed with your head enough, think about this. Taking what we know about our universe and how we perceive it, its reasonable to say the universe was created by the big bang. However this event has an infinitesimally small probability of occurring, something like catching a trillion shiny pokemon in a row. An event which, theoretically, given enough time, will end up occurring. However, this event created space time, making said event basically impossible, yet clearly it happened as here I am typing this. So basically, we exist because in impossible event occurred before time even existed for it to occur during. Yet this is entirely unknowable, since our understanding is limited by our perception. In actuality, its possible that none of this really exists, OR the was a different form of time that WE can't perceive, which was what allowed the big bang to occur. Or maybe gamefreak is right and Arceus created everything.
Has your brain exploded yet?
There are a lot more strange and weird things then pokemon. Like people. There is nobody alive that truly understands everyone 100%, yet lots of people think that they do. Go figure.
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Well, i have to admit that I love pkmn but i don,t know why i believe that unova pokemon are combinations of old generations: example:
Pidove it's a copy of Starly, druddigon reminds me Salamence, and since the hoenn region all regions have the basic pokedex complex:
2.- normal pokemon
3.- three guardian pokemon
4.- a non legendary pokemon
5.- story legendary pokemon
6.- extra unobtainable legendary pokemon
If that was true "veteran players" would have probably stopped playing when they added two new types back in gold and silver. :P
Also, each generation has had similar formats for the Pokemon, not only since Hoenn, it's changed a little since Hoenn but we've always had the starters, regional Rodent, regional Birds, perhaps more.
The thing that you have to remember is that this is a game where a tiny little rat can shoot beams of ice, cloak itself in fire, (for those of you that don't know flame wheel is an egg move) create electricity and make an indestructible barrier, but no one has ever questioned that have they? The thing you have to remember is that kyurem was always one pokemon that split into two so in a way black kyurem/white kyurem is just its normal form. For those of you who think pokemon is dying it isn't when BW2 came out how many of you bought it or are going to buy it? Pokemon is likely to go on for many years since it is making a lot of money and I know I will be playing it 'till the bitter end.
I still think it's wierd because of the design of 5th gen pokemon.