Community POTW #81

[your boss]

@Philzone don't think priority is just going to finish her easily if I'm mistaken. 100/77/128 bulk is pretty good better than Reuniclus IIRC. Revenge killing is probably better as it is no Rampardos who dies to those moves.

[jackjturner3]

Relic Song
Psychic
Focus Blast
Energy Ball

[Blue Harvest]

Well, you completely missed my point then

Your point seemed to be that Paraflinch Meloetta is in some way usable, when in fact it is actually complete trash.

[philzone]

Relic Song
Psychic
Focus Blast
Energy Ball

bad choice of normal STAB as you will then turn it into pirouette forme, where it is less stronger use hyper voice if you want a normal STAB move.

[Ilan]

Relic Song
Psychic
Focus Blast
Energy Ball

What are those moves for showing her special move pool without other information I can't even call it a set.

Your point seemed to be that Paraflinch Meloetta is in some way usable, when in fact it is actually complete trash.

Still better than dunsparce but I get your point. if she was gen 4 then she would learn headbutt in HGSS :/

[League]

I missed the first day! Anyways...

This pokemon's design is one of the reasons why I laugh at anyone saying, "The Unovan pokemon aren't original!" It has beautiful eyes, note-shaped arms, and hair based off of sheet music. It's typing makes it immune to ghost moves, which is pretty nice. But it makes it a little weaker to fighting moves, so look out for pokemon like Machamp, Physical Lucario, and Conkadurr (probably spelled wrong lol).

The snore fest
Nature: Bold
EVs: 252 Def, 126 Sp.Att, and 130 Speed
Item: King's Rock or Razor Claw
Moves:
Calm mind
Rest
Snore
Psychic/Psyshock/Shadow Ball/Psybeam

I once used a move set like this on a Togekiss and it works very well, especially if the foe has been paralyzed. If in doubles, it's a good idea to change Meloetta's ability to technician from a Smeargle to smash on extra damage.

Duet
Nature: Modest
EVs: 130 Def, 252 Sp. Att, and 126 Speed
Item: Metronome or left overs
Moves:
Round
Calm Mind
Psychic
Substitute/Protect/Safeguard/Thunder Wave

This must be combined with a faster pokemon like a lopunny in order to make this work. If you want to use Trick room, have a slow pokemon like evolite munchlax help. Doing so will let Meloetta go next, no matter what, and dish out tons of damage!

Hmm, I had the idea to use Snore as well, but, perversely, I prefer Meloetta to go Pirouette in doing so. Why? Well, the speed is naturally good for a flincher who doesn't fear the paralysis status, and the type change meanwhile will better defend Meloetta against two annoying attacks, U-turn and Pursuit, effectively turning a weakness to each into a resistance to each.

On that note, the POTW review should make sure to note that the weaknesses of each of Meloetta's forms are exclusive to that form, and that Meloetta can effectively drop any of its weaknesses at any time, making finding a perfect counter who can exploit Meloetta's typing for weaknesses impossible.

So, anyway, my gimmicky core is composed of Rest, Snore, and Relic Song. What should the third move be used for? With Thunder and its paralysis chance, Meloetta could flinch pokemon in either form (its Aria form most notably) more effectively. (Thunder of course has shaky unboosted accuracy, but people here have gone on about Hurricane Tornadus.) With Zen Headbutt, Meloetta can flinch its opponents while it is awake. (Zen Headbutt will always be lacking either Meloetta's STAB or its full attack power though.) With Close Combat and Drain Punch, Meloetta gets Fighting STAB. (I shudder at the first as this Meloetta is kinda sorta like a ResTalker, although it really is nothing of the kind or sort.) Stone Edge, I've decided, has decent neutral coverage against a modest array of threats. Dual Chop also would provide for like modest coverage. U-turn lets Meloetta sing, sting, and then flee the ring.

Why use this Meloetta? Well, despite its many-minded muddled makeup, or rather, because of its many-minded muddled makeup, the set gets great recovery and free attacking chances. Each Snore that causes a flinch is free damage and makes your use of Rest more free of penalty as well.

This Meloetta's item could either be Leftovers or King's Rock, the latter being allowed as far as I know. (That was a declarative question!?) The first boosts recovery directly and is especially helped by the hoped-for flinch, and the latter gives hoped-for flinches. (Would this item also make Dual Chop an especially keen attack choice? You tell me, that was an inquisitive question?.)

~

Oh, on a different note, if you have a White Kyurem that knows Fusion Flare, does it lose the move when you revert it to normal form? Otherwise, there's no reason aside from Hidden Power's PP for you to not run Fusion Flare over HP Fire. Well then, never mind.

[tomjames1966]

Isn't Meloetta Limbo?

[your boss]

Isn't Meloetta Limbo?

No, it is legal and it is OU as well as its forme.

[tomjames1966]

Has it been released?

[your boss]

Yes, when the movie came out.

[philzone]

No, it is legal and it is OU as well as its forme.

I would have thought the pirouette forme would be uber, but i think they lowered it because how fussy it is to get to pirouette forme.

[your boss]

Sure Meloetta-P isn't the best to use, could be worse. Darmanitan-Z?

[Ilan]

Sure Meloetta-P isn't the best to use, could be worse. Darmanitan-Z?

Seriously? bad? it isn't bad at all... as long as you run mixed and don't rely too much on the transformation (put shadow ball or psychic).

and it is re leased not sure about OU but released pokemon start in OU then change tier just like the kami trio

[your boss]

Seriously? bad? it isn't bad at all... as long as you run mixed and don't rely too much on the transformation (put shadow ball or psychic).

and it is re leased not sure about OU but released pokemon start in OU then change tier just like the kami trio

Not saying it is bad, unless the 2 you mentioned. Any predictions if it is going to stay or drop.

[Ilan]

I predict low OU or high UU it is a versible pokemon so it can run lots of sets only if meloetta got wish..

[your boss]

How would wish help it? just curious.

[Ilan]

How would wish help it? just curious.

base 100 HP and it needs recovery for a special tank set.. it have really good special bulk.. (but recover could be better)

[your boss]

base 100 HP and it needs recovery for a special tank set.. it have really good special bulk.. (but recover could be better)

OK, all it has for recovery is Drain Punch, and Meloetta has only 77 attack so yeah.

[GirlKirbyZombie]

Hmm, I had the idea to use Snore as well, but, perversely, I prefer Meloetta to go Pirouette in doing so. Why? Well, the speed is naturally good for a flincher who doesn't fear the paralysis status, and the type change meanwhile will better defend Meloetta against two annoying attacks, U-turn and Pursuit, effectively turning a weakness to each into a resistance to each.

On that note, the POTW review should make sure to note that the weaknesses of each of Meloetta's forms are exclusive to that form, and that Meloetta can effectively drop any of its weaknesses at any time, making finding a perfect counter who can exploit Meloetta's typing for weaknesses impossible.

So, anyway, my gimmicky core is composed of Rest, Snore, and Relic Song. What should the third move be used for? With Thunder and its paralysis chance, Meloetta could flinch pokemon in either form (its Aria form most notably) more effectively. (Thunder of course has shaky unboosted accuracy, but people here have gone on about Hurricane Tornadus.) With Zen Headbutt, Meloetta can flinch its opponents while it is awake. (Zen Headbutt will always be lacking either Meloetta's STAB or its full attack power though.) With Close Combat and Drain Punch, Meloetta gets Fighting STAB. (I shudder at the first as this Meloetta is kinda sorta like a ResTalker, although it really is nothing of the kind or sort.) Stone Edge, I've decided, has decent neutral coverage against a modest array of threats. Dual Chop also would provide for like modest coverage. U-turn lets Meloetta sing, sting, and then flee the ring.

Why use this Meloetta? Well, despite its many-minded muddled makeup, or rather, because of its many-minded muddled makeup, the set gets great recovery and free attacking chances. Each Snore that causes a flinch is free damage and makes your use of Rest more free of penalty as well.

This Meloetta's item could either be Leftovers or King's Rock, the latter being allowed as far as I know. (That was a declarative question!?) The first boosts recovery directly and is especially helped by the hoped-for flinch, and the latter gives hoped-for flinches. (Would this item also make Dual Chop an especially keen attack choice? You tell me, that was an inquisitive question?.)

~

Oh, on a different note, if you have a White Kyurem that knows Fusion Flare, does it lose the move when you revert it to normal form? Otherwise, there's no reason aside from Hidden Power's PP for you to not run Fusion Flare over HP Fire. Well then, never mind.

I see.

But I prefer her normal form since there are so many normal types but so little of them are good with special attack.

[Blue Harvest]

Sure Meloetta-P isn't the best to use, could be worse. Darmanitan-Z?

It's not too bad. Relic Song / Close Combat / Return / Ice Punch or Shadow Claw holding Life Orb has incredibly solid coverage against everything barring physically defensive Jellicent. Its two STABs hit everything in the game neutral except Ghosts. The only two Ghosts in OU are Gengar and Jellicent. Gengar falls to Ice Punch after a little damage (60.9% - 72%) while both take massive damage from Shadow Claw (though Jellicent has a solid chance of burning you).

Though the Ghosts "block" Relic Song so it's probably better to just run Ice Punch and something to Pursuit them.