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    Tinted Lens Flygon would be awesome, its Outrage would be unresisted, and could take on Steels who want to wall your Choice Band set.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duranteater View Post
    Tinted Lens Flygon would be awesome, its Outrage would be unresisted, and could take on Steels who want to wall your Choice Band set.
    ^ This would be cRaZy. With hazards support this thing could pull off a great Choice Banded Outrage sweep. Problem becomes, though, that it would be easily revenged by a common Mamoswine and any other scafer. I could see Moxie Mence still performing in this "role" slightly better or maybe on par with eachother, as it has more power after a KO, and is able to use a Choice Scarf, outspeeding much more Pokemon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Wallrein View Post
    ^ This would be cRaZy. With hazards support this thing could pull off a great Choice Banded Outrage sweep. Problem becomes, though, that it would be easily revenged by a common Mamoswine and any other scafer. I could see Moxie Mence still performing in this "role" slightly better or maybe on par with eachother, as it has more power after a KO, and is able to use a Choice Scarf, outspeeding much more Pokemon.
    True, but this could help it more in UU and maybe go to BL.

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    Yes, I would see it bumping up to OU still.
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    Would Heavy Ice be a really sought-after move for the current metagame?

    Already-Posted Move: Heavy Ice
    Type: Ice / Power: 60 / Accuracy: 100 / PP: 15 / Target: Single adjacent Pokémon / Category: Special / Priority: 0
    "A chunk of ice plummets as if it were pulled by the earth. It hits airborne targets for massive damage."
    - An Ice-type move that can't freeze, but deals double damage to any Flying-type Pokémon or any Pokémon under the effects of Levitate, Magnet Rise, or Air Balloon.






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    Quote Originally Posted by Wishing Star View Post
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    Rock Burst - I don't see the flavor behind a Rock-type move being dependent on which offensive stat is higher. Mind explaining it to me?
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    Actually, I was thinking of a trio rock types and a "master" steel one that could appear in 6th gen (pure fandom lol) Its sort of like Gigalith for the shape and stuff growing on it and its expression and of course colour differentiate it. Like Water/Rock would be oval stone, with seaweed growing on it. Grass/Rock would get Moss growing on it while fire is just fire blazing on a rock. Sounds terrible, I know.
    I also agree that the burst abilities are a bit overpowered, but they're restricted to those 4 so flame would go to fire/rock to deal with the x4 water weakness, water would go to the water/rock to deal with the x4 grass weakness and so on. Steel Burst is restricted to the steel one, so the distribution is really sparse.

    So anyways, the quad's signature move is the rock burst, which is again, restricted to them.
    Rock Burst is similar to Psyshock, where I got my inspiration from. I realised that there was only TWO special rock type moves: Ancient Power and Power Gem, with both of them hitting quite low at a 60 and 70 Base Power respectively. I thought that it would be good if there was a third skill, where I thought it'd be Rock Burst (as they're rocks! Actually the rocks are just random drawing of a Gigalith body and I decided to fit in the pan family look into it xD). I thought it'd be interesting again, if the skill has its unique mechanism so that's how I thought of Rock Burst!

    So the point for Rock Burst is that:
    The Fire/Rock Pokemon has a 110 base attack and 60 special attack against a Tangrowth with 125 special defense and 50 defense. Thus, when the fire/rock pokemon uses Rock Burst, it would actually be a physical move but Tangrowth will take it as a special move due to its special stats being lower and thus, due special damage (in this case) but uses attack stats!

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    Constrict - Damage increased to 30 B.P. B.P doubles every turn until it reaches 480 B.P and speed is decreased by one stage every turn when the opponent is hit by this attack
    Rollout - Extra effect: Foe's Defense is decreased by one stage every turn when the opponent is hit by this attack. Accuracy increased to 100.
    Ice Ball - Extra effect: Foe's Special Defense is decreased by one stage every turn when the opponent is hit by this attack. Accuracy increased to 100. Attack Type is changed to Special.

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    So Magcargo gets it? Speaking of which he needs a boost or evolution along with a huge handful of other Fire Pokemon. It might not get them out of NU (see Charizard) but it would help.
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    Macargo Macargo...

    Escagma

    The shell has solidified into a large lump of Coal, and the part Fire used to spout from is a diamond now. Macargo's lava body is very large and has spots of cooled lava dotting it.

    Rock/Fire

    Solid Rock(or Sturdy, not sure)/Flame Body/Weak Armor

    HP: 100
    ATK: 75
    DEF: 150
    SpA: 105
    SpD: 130
    Spe: 60

    Notable Changes to it

    Power Gem
    Energy Ball
    Shadow Sneak
    Nasty Plot

    massive defenses and moderate HP with access to Recover means it mar be able to survive long enough to threaten some teams.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MetalFlygon08 View Post
    Escagma

    The shell has solidified into a large lump of Coal, and the part Fire used to spout from is a diamond now. Macargo's lava body is very large and has spots of cooled lava dotting it.

    Rock/Fire

    Solid Rock(or Sturdy, not sure)/Flame Body/Weak Armor

    HP: 100
    ATK: 75
    DEF: 150
    SpA: 105
    SpD: 130
    Spe: 60

    Notable Changes to it

    Power Gem
    Energy Ball
    Shadow Sneak
    Nasty Plot

    massive defenses and moderate HP with access to Recover means it mar be able to survive long enough to threaten some teams.
    The base stats total 620. o_e

    I never really liked the Slugma line much, but those moves would definitely give it the coverage it oh so desperately needs. I personally think it would have Flame Body, but that may be because I've seen so many Pokémon with Sturdy already.






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    I think Surskit should get a side evolution, as Water/Bug is unique and Masquerin is just a pure waste of an evolution... I'll throw in what I think a Surskit sub-evo should be

    Surcitius
    (According to google translate, citius means swift. So taking sur from surf/surface -Bulbapedia reference, it goes like swiftly on water)

    Appearance: It has a longer body than Surskit, with even thinner legs. The hat is still there and it still looks cute!

    Surskit -> Surcitius
    Method: LV up near a Whirlpool or Waterfall

    Pokedex Entry: All SURCITIUS are masters of art in water skating. They reside in fresh water ponds.

    Stats
    HP: 60
    Attack: 90
    Defense: 90
    Special Attack: 20
    Special Defense: 80
    Speed: 110
    Total Stats: 450

    Abilities:
    Speed Boost/Water Absorb

    Noticeable Movepool:
    Sword Dance
    Bug Buzz
    Aqua Jet
    Tri-Punch
    U-Turn

    Do you think Surskit should get a sub-evo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wishing Star View Post

    New Item: Trigger Lens
    "A lens with a very accurate crosshair. It improves the number of hits dealt by multi-hit moves."
    - Skill Link on an item. Hello, Technician Breloom with Bullet Seed! (:
    Don't forget tail slap cinccino too. She'll love that item combined with technician, that means she can hold wake up slap again as a counter to steels.
    But if any of you played pokemon conquest, some of the abilities there would have fit in the main games. Here's an example;

    Parry:
    Pokemon Conquest: has a chance of protecting the pokemon from and attack involving physical contact. Ranged attacks cannot be parried however.
    Pokemon main series: Does the same as how conquest does it but it blocks contact attacks by 50% or 70%. That means extreme speeding or close combating wont't be executed that easily. Thus, it forces the enemy to use SP. attacks instead.

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    For Trigger Lens, I would make it like Choice Band where your locked into one move.

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    Hey guys! I got a new move.

    Fog Dance (name is pending)
    PP: What ever Rain Dance has
    Type: Normal
    Other
    Effect: Creates fog over the field that lasts for 5 turns.

    Fog Effect (I'm changing the mechanics): Lowers accuracy by 30% (all pokemon). Normal and Flying Type Moves are increased by 50%. Is Defog lowers opponents accuracy as well as evasiveness by 2 stages.

    What do you guys think?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chidori__O View Post
    Hey guys! I got a new move.

    Fog Dance (name is pending)
    PP: What ever Rain Dance has
    Type: Normal
    Other
    Effect: Creates fog over the field that lasts for 5 turns.

    Fog Effect (I'm changing the mechanics): Lowers accuracy by 30% (all pokemon). Normal and Flying Type Moves are increased by 50%. Is Defog lowers opponents accuracy as well as evasiveness by 2 stages.

    What do you guys think?
    Stall teams will be so hard to counter that way.. and scyther will be OU (technican aerial ace)


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    Abilities
    Life Guard- Automatically switches in when opponent uses offensive Water-type moves and takes the damage from the move.
    Surge Guard- Automatically switches in when opponent uses offensive Electric-type moves and takes the damage from the move.
    Fire Fighter- Automatically switches in when opponent uses offensive Fire-type moves and takes the damage from the move.
    Brain Power- Doubles Special Attack of Pokemon.
    Sharpshooter- All moves hit without miss, but power is reduced by 20%

    Ability Revamps
    Run Away- Always allows a Pokemon to excape from a trapping move.
    Illuminate- Increases accuracy by 10% and lowers opponent's accuracy by 10%
    Battle Armor- Prevents critical hits and powers up Physical moves by 10%
    Damp- Prevents the use of Selfdestruct or Explosion. Prevents Aftermath from doing damage. Water moves do 30% less damage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eaglehawk View Post
    Abilities
    Life Guard- Automatically switches in when opponent uses offensive Water-type moves and takes the damage from the move.
    Surge Guard- Automatically switches in when opponent uses offensive Electric-type moves and takes the damage from the move.
    Fire Fighter- Automatically switches in when opponent uses offensive Fire-type moves and takes the damage from the move.
    Brain Power- Doubles Special Attack of Pokemon.
    Sharpshooter- All moves hit without miss, but power is reduced by 20%

    Ability Revamps
    Run Away- Always allows a Pokemon to excape from a trapping move.
    Illuminate- Increases accuracy by 10% and lowers opponent's accuracy by 10%
    Battle Armor- Prevents critical hits and powers up Physical moves by 10%
    Damp- Prevents the use of Selfdestruct or Explosion. Prevents Aftermath from doing damage. Water moves do 30% less damage.

    I don't like the first 3 abilities,they force a in the party to do something when you don't what not always convenient.
    Brain Power is Huge Power counterpart.
    Sharpshooter is Hustle counterpart which makes 120 BP moves have 96 power most people probably will dislike it since power>accuracy most of the time but Both Focus Blast and Dynamic Power would benefit.

    It probably have access to Inferno and Focus Blast which will be quite amazing if it also gets thunder and blizzard they are exactly like bolt/beam.

    I think Run Away should be like this too.
    Illuminate I hate abilities which affect the opponent accuracy but sounds interesting.
    Battle Armor would be great but a bit broken.
    Damp- everything that will make water moves less used is great.


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    I was thinking for the first three for an ability that auto-switches a Pokemon out of a SE move onto a Pokemon who resist it (Suicune, Raikou, and Entei were on my mind when I made this). The idea of those three abilities is to ease prediction and allow for players to be more reckless in offense, as switching will undoubted be automatic. I'll give an example.

    C Scarf TTar vs. Starmie (idk)

    yadayada's Tyranitar used Stone Edge!
    Does x%
    Blah's Starmie uses Hydro Pump.
    Yadayada's Suicune's Life Guard activated!
    yadayada called back Tyranitar!
    yadayada sent out Suicune!


    Oh and there are some other buffs to abilities I wanted, mostly DW abilities.
    Healer- 30% chance that the next Pokemon switched in will have status relieved in Singles. (Basically, if Blissey with Healer switches out into something like a Poisoned Dragonite, there's a 30% chance of D-Nite becoming status free)
    Heavy Metal- This Pokémon's weight is doubled. If a Flying-type has this ability, it is no longer immune to Spikes, Toxic Spikes, and Ground-type moves (Kinda useless, but makes sense though)
    Infiltrator- Allows for a Pokemon to deal damage and inflict status on a Pokemon behind a Substitute.
    Justified- Immune to Dark-type moves
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    Quote Originally Posted by OceanicLanturn View Post
    I think Surskit should get a side evolution, as Water/Bug is unique and Masquerin is just a pure waste of an evolution... I'll throw in what I think a Surskit sub-evo should be

    Surcitius
    (According to google translate, citius means swift. So taking sur from surf/surface -Bulbapedia reference, it goes like swiftly on water)

    Appearance: It has a longer body than Surskit, with even thinner legs. The hat is still there and it still looks cute!

    Surskit -> Surcitius
    Method: LV up near a Whirlpool or Waterfall

    Pokedex Entry: All SURCITIUS are masters of art in water skating. They reside in fresh water ponds.

    Stats
    HP: 60
    Attack: 90
    Defense: 90
    Special Attack: 20
    Special Defense: 80
    Speed: 110
    Total Stats: 450

    Abilities:
    Speed Boost/Water Absorb

    Noticeable Movepool:
    Sword Dance
    Bug Buzz
    Aqua Jet
    Tri-Punch
    U-Turn

    Do you think Surskit should get a sub-evo?
    I always wanted Surskit to get an evolution to something other than Masquerain. Its Bug/Water (not Water/Bug; I say this because of my made-up Ignorant ability) uniqueness was ruined by Masquerain.

    But I have to mention: Bug Buzz with a base 20 SpA...? And that Speed Boost would really help the guy out.

    Quote Originally Posted by jireh the provider View Post
    Don't forget tail slap cinccino too. She'll love that item combined with technician, that means she can hold wake up slap again as a counter to steels.
    But if any of you played pokemon conquest, some of the abilities there would have fit in the main games. Here's an example;

    Parry:
    Pokemon Conquest: has a chance of protecting the pokemon from and attack involving physical contact. Ranged attacks cannot be parried however.
    Pokemon main series: Does the same as how conquest does it but it blocks contact attacks by 50% or 70%. That means extreme speeding or close combating wont't be executed that easily. Thus, it forces the enemy to use SP. attacks instead.
    I already mentioned the Cinccino.

    Parry seems neat. You said it blocks contact moves by a certain percentage, and that it doesn't block special attacks. Does it block moves like Earthquake and Razor Leaf (moves that are physical but don't make contact)?

    Quote Originally Posted by Duranteater View Post
    For Trigger Lens, I would make it like Choice Band where your locked into one move.
    But Skill Link doesn't lock you into a move. Trigger Lens is literally Skill Link on an item, with no bonuses or penalties whatsoever.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eaglehawk View Post
    Abilities
    Life Guard- Automatically switches in when opponent uses offensive Water-type moves and takes the damage from the move.
    Surge Guard- Automatically switches in when opponent uses offensive Electric-type moves and takes the damage from the move.
    Fire Fighter- Automatically switches in when opponent uses offensive Fire-type moves and takes the damage from the move.
    Brain Power- Doubles Special Attack of Pokemon.
    Sharpshooter- All moves hit without miss, but power is reduced by 20%

    Ability Revamps
    Run Away- Always allows a Pokemon to excape from a trapping move.
    Illuminate- Increases accuracy by 10% and lowers opponent's accuracy by 10%
    Battle Armor- Prevents critical hits and powers up Physical moves by 10%
    Damp- Prevents the use of Selfdestruct or Explosion. Prevents Aftermath from doing damage. Water moves do 30% less damage.
    Life Guard, Surge Guard, and Fire Fighter - Okay, but what if multiple Pokémon with Life Guard are in your party and your active Pokémon is targeted by a Water-type move?
    Brain Power - Solid counterpart for Huge Power.
    Sharpshooter - Kind of like a reverse Hustle, in a sense. While Hustle isn't that great on certain Pokémon and with certain moves, it's awesome on others. This ability would most likely be the same. I like it.

    Run Away - Yeah, I never knew why the ability didn't do this in the first place. Same with other abilities in this category, such as Illuminate.
    Illuminate - And right when I mention Illuminate, this happens. The Wide Lens effect seems nice, but I'm not sure whether or not the opponent accuracy drop is too much of a luck factor to make it worth a ban.
    Battle Armor - Awesome. And then Shell Armor could also increase Defense by 10% in the same manner.
    Damp - Seeing as most Pokémon with this ability are Water-type, I'm sure the 30% reduction isn't bad at all.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eaglehawk View Post
    Oh and there are some other buffs to abilities I wanted, mostly DW abilities.
    Healer- 30% chance that the next Pokemon switched in will have status relieved in Singles. (Basically, if Blissey with Healer switches out into something like a Poisoned Dragonite, there's a 30% chance of D-Nite becoming status free)
    Heavy Metal- This Pokémon's weight is doubled. If a Flying-type has this ability, it is no longer immune to Spikes, Toxic Spikes, and Ground-type moves (Kinda useless, but makes sense though)
    Infiltrator- Allows for a Pokemon to deal damage and inflict status on a Pokemon behind a Substitute.
    Justified- Immune to Dark-type moves
    Healer - I hate abilities that are useless in singles. This would make Healer much more useful, potentially to the point where your team may not need a dedicated cleric.
    Heavy Metal - Fits within flavor. While the ability would be even more useless than it may already be, it makes sense.
    Infiltrator - I wouldn't make the Infiltrator Pokémon's moves be directly able to work around the Substitute, but rather continue to damage behind the Substitute if the move deals more than what the Substitute can sustain. But I might just be looking at your description incorrectly.
    Justified - Immune to Dark-type moves, as well as an Attack increase? I say yes!

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    Type: Water / Power: 60 / Accuracy: 100 / PP: 10 / Target: Single adjacent Pokémon / Category: Special / Priority: 0
    "This water-based attack deals double damage on a target with a burn. It also cures the target's burn, however."
    - Water-type, burn-curing equivalent of SmellingSalt and Wake-Up Slap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eaglehawk View Post
    I was thinking for the first three for an ability that auto-switches a Pokemon out of a SE move onto a Pokemon who resist it (Suicune, Raikou, and Entei were on my mind when I made this). The idea of those three abilities is to ease prediction and allow for players to be more reckless in offense, as switching will undoubted be automatic. I'll give an example.

    C Scarf TTar vs. Starmie (idk)

    yadayada's Tyranitar used Stone Edge!
    Does x%
    Blah's Starmie uses Hydro Pump.
    Yadayada's Suicune's Life Guard activated!
    yadayada called back Tyranitar!
    yadayada sent out Suicune!


    Oh and there are some other buffs to abilities I wanted, mostly DW abilities.
    Healer- 30% chance that the next Pokemon switched in will have status relieved in Singles. (Basically, if Blissey with Healer switches out into something like a Poisoned Dragonite, there's a 30% chance of D-Nite becoming status free)
    Heavy Metal- This Pokémon's weight is doubled. If a Flying-type has this ability, it is no longer immune to Spikes, Toxic Spikes, and Ground-type moves (Kinda useless, but makes sense though)
    Infiltrator- Allows for a Pokemon to deal damage and inflict status on a Pokemon behind a Substitute.
    Justified- Immune to Dark-type moves
    Well what if gyarados Plitoed uses scald and then you can be encored (crocune) or toxicated (every other suicune) also what if a pokemon uses an aqua jet in front of a +2 gyarados.. it is a shame you will switch cause you have a pokemon like that that's why I think it isn't that good mostly.
    Healer: everything that would make an otherwise bad ability useful but blissey will probably still use Natural Cure.
    Heavy Metal: why making it even more useless? bronzong loses levitate anyway.
    Infiltrator kinda OP
    Justified: MEH not a big deal cause all justified pokemons except gallade are all resistance to dark, but it should be like this.

    Ok some of mine:
    Pressure Upgrade: instead of losing 2 PP it loses 3 PP because stalling is boring and it should be faster..
    Rotom Movepool Upgrades:
    Rotom gets a new 120 power 80 accuracy ghost move.
    Rotom-S gets Hurricane.
    Rotom-F gets Ice Beam.
    Rotom-W gets Surf (won't probably be used but still)
    Rotom-H gets Fire Blast
    Rotom-C gets Giga Drain
    *it is a new move learned by each form at lvl 100 and can't be passed to other forms which means a heartscale each time changing forms or something like that..
    New Rotom Form: Rotom-T (Train) Electric/Steel it gets a new Hydro Pump steel counter part and Flash Cannon.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilan View Post
    Well what if gyarados Plitoed uses scald and then you can be encored (crocune) or toxicated (every other suicune) also what if a pokemon uses an aqua jet in front of a +2 gyarados.. it is a shame you will switch cause you have a pokemon like that that's why I think it isn't that good mostly.
    Then don't use a Pokémon with those abilities. Nevertheless, this solution does imply that those abilities aren't very practical.

    Pressure Upgrade: instead of losing 2 PP it loses 3 PP because stalling is boring and it should be faster..
    Rotom Movepool Upgrades:
    Rotom gets a new 120 power 80 accuracy ghost move.
    Rotom-S gets Hurricane.
    Rotom-F gets Ice Beam.
    Rotom-W gets Surf (won't probably be used but still)
    Rotom-H gets Fire Blast
    Rotom-C gets Giga Drain
    *it is a new move learned by each form at lvl 100 and can't be passed to other forms which means a heartscale each time changing forms or something like that..
    New Rotom Form: Rotom-T (Train) Electric/Steel it gets a new Hydro Pump steel counter part and Flash Cannon.
    Pressure - I think Pressure's fine as it is right now. I see Pressure not as a main form of stall but rather a bonus; being able to use Protect-Wish or Sub-Recover or something like that would be the main way to stall, and Pressure would just be icing on the cake.
    Rotom movepool upgrades - I don't really use the Rotom forms, but otherwise I think they're fine. I'm a bit iffy on Rotom-F, though, since it's the only really "plain" move out there. Hurricane can confuse and is 120 BP, Surf hits all adjacents, Fire Blast can burn and is 120 BP, and Giga Drain absorbs, whereas Ice Beam just seems a bit lackluster when compared to the other formes' "signature" moves.
    Rotom-T - I'm assuming it has Levitate as well. This would nullify its 4x Ground weakness, which is excellent.






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