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    Quote Originally Posted by cascadethewarrior View Post
    New Move: Tutor

    Type: / Power: -- / Accuracy: 90% / PP: 5 / Target: Single adjacent Pokemon / Category: / Priority: 0
    "The user teaches the target one of its on moves in place of the targets last move. The move can be used during battle until the Pokémon has fainted"

    -So like a reverse Mimic except it lasts for the entire battle. The move of yours it teaches the target is random except it cannot teach the target Tutor.

    Example:
    -Turn 1: Haxorus used Surf on Blissey, Blissey uses Tutor, Haxorus now knows Egg Bomb in place of Surf. Turn Ends
    Interesting move...seems like it could be devastating to certain Pokemon, especially choice Pokemon. But like in your example, would Haxorus have Egg Bomb the entire game, or until it switches out?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cascadethewarrior View Post
    New Move: Tutor

    Type: / Power: -- / Accuracy: 100% / PP: 5 / Target: Single adjacent Pokemon / Category: / Priority: 0
    "The user teaches the target one of its on moves in place of the targets last move. The move can be used during battle until the Pokémon has fainted"

    -So like a reverse Mimic except it lasts for the entire battle unless the Pokemon has fainted and was revived. The move of yours it teaches the target is random however it cannot teach the target Tutor.

    Example:
    -Turn 1: Haxorus used Surf on Blissey, Blissey uses Tutor , Haxorus now knows Egg Bomb in place of Surf. Turn Ends
    It may just be me, but I'd prefer it if the move that the user Tutors is the move last used by it, and if the effect ended upon switching out. For example,
    Turn 1: Haxorus uses Surf on Blissey, Blissey uses Egg Bomb.
    Turn 2: Haxorus uses Outrage on Blissey, Blissey uses Tutor, replacing Outrage with Egg Bomb until Haxorus switches out or faints.






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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow♠ View Post
    Interesting move...seems like it could be devastating to certain Pokemon, especially choice Pokemon. But like in your example, would Haxorus have Egg Bomb the entire game, or until it switches out?
    Until the battle ends.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wishing Star View Post
    It may just be me, but I'd prefer it if the move that the user Tutors is the move last used by it, and if the effect ended upon switching out. For example,
    Turn 1: Haxorus uses Surf on Blissey, Blissey uses Egg Bomb.
    Turn 2: Haxorus uses Outrage on Blissey, Blissey uses Tutor, replacing Outrage with Egg Bomb until Haxorus switches out or faints.
    eh I kinda like the randomness of it because your opponent might get lucky and get tutored a good move...but at the same time with the chosen tutored move you can have more control but it will require 2 turns to pull it off. As for changing it so until they switch out, with the chosen tutored one, it's kinda like a wasted effort because it took 2 turns, most likely 2 hits, to pull it off and for them to just switch it out seems kinda unfair BUT with the random one maybe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cascadethewarrior View Post
    eh I kinda like the randomness of it because your opponent might get lucky and get tutored a good move...but at the same time with the chosen tutored move you can have more control but it will require 2 turns to pull it off. As for changing it so until they switch out, with the chosen tutored one, it's kinda like a wasted effort because it took 2 turns, most likely 2 hits, to pull it off and for them to just switch it out seems kinda unfair BUT with the random one maybe.
    I just think that one of the consequences of trying to essentially disable a move with Tutor should be that it takes two turns to set up, during which time the opponent can kill your Tutor before you get to Tutor them.

    Oh yeah, can a Pokémon be taught more than one move via Tutor? So for example, if the Haxorus used Surf and it got turned into Egg Bomb, can the Haxorus use Outrage and get it turned into, say, Softboiled? And most importantly, can a Pokémon with Tutor teach the Tutor move to the target?






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    Quote Originally Posted by Wishing Star View Post
    I just think that one of the consequences of trying to essentially disable a move with Tutor should be that it takes two turns to set up, during which time the opponent can kill your Tutor before you get to Tutor them.
    You make a great point. I'm definitely making it so it will tutor the last move used.

    Oh yeah, can a Pokémon be taught more than one move via Tutor? So for example, if the Haxorus used Surf and it got turned into Egg Bomb, can the Haxorus use Outrage and get it turned into, say, Softboiled? And most importantly, can a Pokémon with Tutor teach the Tutor move to the target?
    I actually never thought of that. Would it be broken if it could do it to more than one move? and no the move Tutor cannot be tutored but if both Pokemon had Tutor and and the last used move on one Pokemon was Tutor the other Pokemon can Tutor their Tutor.

    Example:
    Turn 1: Lopunny used Ice Punch, Blissey used Egg Bomb, Turn Ends
    Turn 2: Lopunny used Jump Kick, Blissey used Tutor, Lopunny's Jump Kick has been replaced with Egg Bomb, Turn Ends
    Turn 3: Lopunny used Tutor, Blissey's Tutor has been replaced with Jump Kick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by s2daam View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by cascadethewarrior View Post
    I actually never thought of that. Would it be broken if it could do it to more than one move?
    It probably would. Most Pokémon need all four moves to function properly, and getting rid of one of them is already extremely detrimental. Changing two of them would be even more brutal, and the fact that it lasts beyond switch-out pretty much means that Tutor can pretty much render a Pokémon useless if used twice.






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    Quote Originally Posted by Wishing Star View Post
    It probably would. Most Pokémon need all four moves to function properly, and getting rid of one of them is already extremely detrimental. Changing two of them would be even more brutal, and the fact that it lasts beyond switch-out pretty much means that Tutor can pretty much render a Pokémon useless if used twice.
    Ok it's settled then:

    Revamped version v.02

    New Move: Tutor

    Type: / Power: -- / Accuracy: 100% / PP: 5 / Target: Single adjacent Pokemon / Category: / Priority: 0
    "The user teaches the target it's last move in place of the targets last move. The move can be used during battle until the Pokémon has fainted"

    -So like a reverse Mimic except it lasts for the entire battle unless the Pokemon has fainted and was revived. Tutor cannot be tutored but it can be replaced by the effect of the move Tutor. However it can only Tutor once per the Pokemon unless the Pokemon fainted and was revived. Protect and Detect are not affected by tutor if the moves were used. It cannot be magic bounced.

    Example:
    -Turn 1: Haxorus used Surf on Blissey, Blissey Egg Bomb, Turn Ends.
    -Turn 2: Haxorus used Outrage, Blissey used Tutor , Haxorus now knows Egg Bomb in place of Outrage.
    Last edited by cascadethewarrior; 27th September 2012 at 6:11 AM.

    Quote Originally Posted by s2daam View Post
    People really need to stop acting like things are definite or "very un/likely" to happen seeming only GameFreak and some of Nintendo know whats happening in this game, so until they are released, nothing is definite without confirmation!
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    Quote Originally Posted by cascadethewarrior View Post
    Ok it's settled then:

    Revamped version v.02

    New Move: Tutor

    Type: / Power: -- / Accuracy: 100% / PP: 5 / Target: Single adjacent Pokemon / Category: / Priority: 0
    "The user teaches the target it's last move in place of the targets last move. The move can be used during battle until the Pokémon has fainted"

    -So like a reverse Mimic except it lasts for the entire battle unless the Pokemon has fainted and was revived. Tutor cannot be tutored but it can be replaced by the effect of the move Tutor. However it can only Tutor once per the Pokemon unless the Pokemon fainted and was revived.

    Example:
    -Turn 1: Haxorus used Surf on Blissey, Blissey Egg Bomb, Turn Ends.
    -Turn 2: Haxorus used Outrage, Blissey used Tutor , Haxorus now knows Egg Bomb in place of Outrage.
    Sounds good! You should also mention whether or not should be affected by Protect and Detect and should be deflectable by Magic Bounce, just in case.

    New Move: Frenzy Claws
    Type: Normal / Power: 20 / Accuracy: 100 / PP: 10 / Target: Single adjacent Pokémon / Category: Physical / Priority: 0 (Contact: Yes)
    "The user slashes at the foe two to five times in quick succession. Each hit may lower the target's Defense stat."
    - Yeah. Just like how Iron Barbs triggers after every hit of a multi-hit move, every hit of this move has a 10% chance of lowering the target's Defense stat. For example, if a one-stage Defense drop increases damage dealt by 50%, and the first hit does 20 damage and lowers Defense by one stage, then the second hit does 30.






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    Quote Originally Posted by Wishing Star View Post
    New Move: Frenzy Claws
    Type: Normal / Power: 20 / Accuracy: 100 / PP: 10 / Target: Single adjacent Pokémon / Category: Physical / Priority: 0 (Contact: Yes)
    "The user slashes at the foe two to five times in quick succession. Each hit may lower the target's Defense stat."
    - Yeah. Just like how Iron Barbs triggers after every hit of a multi-hit move, every hit of this move has a 10% chance of lowering the target's Defense stat. For example, if a one-stage Defense drop increases damage dealt by 50%, and the first hit does 20 damage and lowers Defense by one stage, then the second hit does 30.
    Wow I like it. Cinncino with Skill Link will abuse the crap out of it lol. Although I personally would have made it 20 power.

    Quote Originally Posted by s2daam View Post
    People really need to stop acting like things are definite or "very un/likely" to happen seeming only GameFreak and some of Nintendo know whats happening in this game, so until they are released, nothing is definite without confirmation!
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    Quote Originally Posted by cascadethewarrior View Post
    Wow I like it. Cinncino with Skill Link will abuse the crap out of it lol. Although I personally would have made it 20 power.
    It is 20 power. Did you mean 10 power?

    And yeah, Cinccino doesn't exactly have the best claws in the world, so it wouldn't be able to learn it. (:






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    Quote Originally Posted by Wishing Star View Post
    It is 20 power. Did you mean 10 power?
    ...oh my bad I could swear it said 10 :/

    Quote Originally Posted by s2daam View Post
    People really need to stop acting like things are definite or "very un/likely" to happen seeming only GameFreak and some of Nintendo know whats happening in this game, so until they are released, nothing is definite without confirmation!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wishing Star View Post
    It is 20 power. Did you mean 10 power?

    And yeah, Cinccino doesn't exactly have the best claws in the world, so it wouldn't be able to learn it. (:
    But that's like saying Forretress can learn Drill Run but has no drills on it but spins like one!

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    Two contradictory Attacks I made:

    Brave Slash and Night Cutter

    Brave Slash (Fighting)
    PP: 15/Power: --/Accuracy: 100/Category: Physical
    The user embroiders in bravery and slashes against the foe.

    Night Cutter (Dark)
    PP: 15/Power: --/Accuracy: 100/Category: Physical
    The user cuts against the user with an ominous cut.

    How these two moves work: its damage depends on how many Pokemon the foe has left

    Here's the table: they EXCLUDE the Pokemon on the field BTW
    0 mon left: Night Cutter: 125 / Brave Slash: 25
    1 mon left: Night Cutter: 100 / Brave Slash: 25
    2 mon left: Night Cutter: 75 / Brave Slash: 50
    3 mon left: Night Cutter: 50 / Brave Slash: 75
    4 mon left: Night Cutter: 25 / Brave Slash: 100
    5 mon left: Night Cutter: 25 / Brave Slash: 125

    Yeah, gimmicky. It may seem op but the problem is that it cannot be continuously chained. Both cannot be spammed. So night cutter makes the mon a late game sweeper and Brave Slash make it a lead.

    Some other random abilities

    Jolly Skin: The foe may become confused in a 30% chance due to sudden mood change when hitting the user with a physical attack.
    Eject Skin: When the opponent hits the user with a physical attack, there is a 30% chance that the foe will be bounced back to the trainer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cascadethewarrior View Post
    No one was targeting anyone. It's one thing to say you don't like the concept or the idea itself, it's a another to be blatantly rude about it and simply say "it sucks".



    New Move: Tutor

    Type: / Power: -- / Accuracy: 100% / PP: 5 / Target: Single adjacent Pokemon / Category: / Priority: 0
    "The user teaches the target one of its on moves in place of the targets last move. The move can be used during battle until the Pokémon has fainted"

    -So like a reverse Mimic except it lasts for the entire battle unless the Pokemon has fainted and was revived. The move of yours it teaches the target is random however it cannot teach the target Tutor.

    Example:
    -Turn 1: Haxorus used Surf on Blissey, Blissey uses Tutor , Haxorus now knows Egg Bomb in place of Surf. Turn Ends
    Never will happen.. I never saw a special haxorus even the newbies never used it..
    Blissey vs. haxorus will always end in a dead blissey..

    I don't think it is useful disable is so much better..


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilan View Post
    Never will happen.. I never saw a special haxorus even the newbies never used it..
    Blissey vs. haxorus will always end in a dead blissey..
    It's called an example.

    I don't think it is useful disable is so much better..
    Well for one, you quoted the original Tutor. The revamped version, v.02 is on this page. Also it is better than Disable because it lasts the entire battle.

    Quote Originally Posted by s2daam View Post
    People really need to stop acting like things are definite or "very un/likely" to happen seeming only GameFreak and some of Nintendo know whats happening in this game, so until they are released, nothing is definite without confirmation!
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    Quote Originally Posted by cascadethewarrior View Post
    It's called an example.



    Well for one, you quoted the original Tutor. The revamped version, v.02 is on this page. Also it is better than Disable because it lasts the entire battle.
    It is not logical something like that will happen as you can see even mimic resets after switch. and if it works after the switch it is permanent and so.. let's say blissey get it.. everyone could have softboiled and heal bell.
    There are no effects "till the end of the match" except trick.. (I think skill swap and mummy are also deleted after the switch)
    Last edited by Ilan; 27th September 2012 at 9:28 PM.


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    New ability: Water Pressure: Same effects as Solar Power!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duranteater View Post
    New ability: Water Pressure: Same effects as Solar Power!
    If the user is fast enough UBER!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilan View Post
    If the user is fast enough UBER!
    What kind of speed stat would be needed for it to become Uber :/

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    i'm pretty sure mummy lasts even if you do switch.

    water pressure sounds nice, but does rain really need more abusers?

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