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  • Ash's Pidgeotto/Pidgeot

    12 13.19%
  • Ash's Kingler, Tauros, and Muk

    27 29.67%
  • Ash's Torkoal and Torterra

    11 12.09%
  • Ash's Gible and Dawn's Togekiss

    3 3.30%
  • Misty's Starmie and Horsea

    3 3.30%
  • Misty's Goldeen

    10 10.99%
  • Misty's Togepi/Togetic

    5 5.49%
  • Brock's Geodude and Onix

    3 3.30%
  • Jessie's Lickitung

    7 7.69%
  • Other (specify)

    10 10.99%
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    Quote Originally Posted by An00bis View Post
    Can I go against the grain for a moment?

    For having as much screentime as they get I think the mascots / Walking Pokemon are treated pretty poorly. I'm talking about Pikachu, Psyduck, Croagunk, Piplup, Axew, Pansage, and the like. A lot of them have huge potential, but because of alterior motives they can't go as far as other Pokemon. For other Pokemon that can be redeemed, but for them it seems unlikely that they'll ever get the development they deserve.
    You're not wrong, An00bis. I mean, Croagunk just seemed to mostly be around to "punish" Brock whenever he'd flirt with girls. Sure, he had some good battles and a few odd moments, but that's it! Piplup gets that a lot too since he's chosen to be Dawn's little baby forever, it just makes him comic relief most of the time in the long haul, like with being the victim of Gible when he was practicing Draco Meteor and such.
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    Ash: Kingler, Muk, & Tododile.

    Misty: Goldeen, Horsea & Togepi.

    Brock: Onix, Geodude & Zubat.

    May: Evee, Skitty, Bulbasaur & Squirtle.

    DAWN: Togekiss.
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    I'd say Misty's Horsea, Goldeen, and Starmie. *nods*

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    Ash: Pretty much all of his Kanto Pokemon except for Pikachu and starters and Pidgeotto (imo) (Tauros got some battles, Torterra and Torkoal had minor wins but still appeared and were important, Torterra more as a Turtwig but whatever)
    Misty: Goldeen + Horsea + Starmie (Goldeen barely did anything important, Horsea barely appeared and left too early, and same with Starmie, although she appeared more often)
    Brock: Zubat line (Barely appeared)
    Tracey: Venonat + Marill (Should have battled more)
    May: Really don't know since I haven't watched most of the episodes, Im still on the part where she has a Torchic, Beautifly and Skitty.
    Dawn: Togekiss + Buneary (Togekiss for being given to her late, and Buneary for the lack of development, but she had nice battles)
    Iris until now: Nobody
    Cilan until now: Stunfisk (no wins)
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    Kingler, Tauros, and Muk.
    The only thing I remember about Muk was that he was constantly groping Professor Oak.
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    ash: tauros
    misty: goldeen
    brock: zubat
    may: evee
    dawn: togekiss
    iris: none
    cilan: stunfisk

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    Ash: Totodile, Pidgeot(Never came back for him), Palpitoad and Boldore
    Cilan: Stunfisk (Only few episodes)
    Brock: Geodude
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    Ash:
    Kingler, Muk, Butterfree, Primeape, Tauros, Tauros, Tauros, Tauros, Tauros, Tauros, Tauros, Tauros, Tauros, Tauros, Tauros, Tauros, Tauros, Tauros, Tauros, Tauros, Tauros, Tauros, Tauros, Tauros, Tauros, Tauros, Tauros, Tauros, Tauros, Tauros, Tauros, Tauros, Tauros, Tauros, Heracross, Totodile, Noctowl, Torkoal, Gliscor, Torterra, Unfezant, Leavanny, Palpitoad, Boldore.

    Misty: Everything bar Staryu and Politoed. But to be fair, she one of the most badly written travelling companions, even worse than Iris.

    Brock: Um. EVERYTHING.

    Tracey: Do I need to say it? Everything.

    May: Squirtle/Wartortle

    Dawn: Pachirisu, Togekiss.

    Cilan: The STUNFISK

    Iris: None so far.

    I think I got all of them. Might have forgotten Tauros though.

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    I voted for Ash's Torterra. I felt so bad for him. :/ He evolved and only got worse. I bet if he stayed a Turtwig he would have fit Ash's battling style a bit more. :/

    Quote Originally Posted by Thing View Post
    Ash:
    Kingler, Muk, Butterfree, Primeape, Tauros, Tauros, Tauros, Tauros, Tauros, Tauros, Tauros, Tauros, Tauros, Tauros, Tauros, Tauros, Tauros, Tauros, Tauros, Tauros, Tauros, Tauros, Tauros, Tauros, Tauros, Tauros, Tauros, Tauros, Tauros, Tauros, Tauros, Tauros, Tauros, Tauros, Heracross, Totodile, Noctowl, Torkoal, Gliscor, Torterra, Unfezant, Leavanny, Palpitoad, Boldore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing View Post

    Misty: Everything bar Staryu and Politoed. But to be fair, she one of the most badly written travelling companions, even worse than Iris.
    I don't know i thought Corsola was treated pretty good too. Ever since she captured it in late Johto it was her most used pokemon getting ton of spotlight. Psyduck was never intended to be battler but he provided comedy having lot of attention back in day.

    And i have to respectively disagree with last statement. Misty did less than other girls did,but that doesn't make her inferior because its quality which counts not quantity. Her role was in contributing to great group dynamic,helping Ash to advance forward and she got some great development earning sisters respect and getting out of their shadow, getting over Gyarados fear, improving her trainer skills and actually going through struggling not getting anything on silver plate becoming with time more mature and confident.

    But to each their own i guess.

    Brock: Um. EVERYTHING.
    If you ask me his Foretress, Croagunk, Happiny and Onix to lesser extent got decent focus and screen time.

    Iris: None so far.
    Can't say im satisfied with growth Axew receives,. He is rather stagnating being barely trained, and not making any notable progress forward. At this point im not sure anymore if we will even see him eventually evolve, fulfilling Iris main mission with which she was sent on journey. Im actually quite disappointed with Axew so far.
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    I guess I really have to figure out the difference between treatment and development in this show. It seems that for alot of people in here, Iris's Pokemon had none. As far as treatment, I disagree. I think she's has it too easy as far as treatement goes. As far as development goes, none. I believe there is a difference with a Pokemon like Axew who is always out and about verses her Emonga who barely gets used anymore.

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    Ash:
    - Pidgeotto/Pidgeot -- Had decent screen time until Ash filled his party, then was neglected.

    - Kingler, Tauros, Muk -- I saw them as strong backup pokemon Ash turned to when he was in trouble or needed extra help.

    - Torkoal -- Not every pokemon can become a powerhouse.

    - Torterra -- I thought Ash was going to learn a new style of battling, but that never happened.

    Misty:
    - Horsea/Togepi -- They were not treated as battlers.

    - Goldeen -- It couldn't battle on land, and Ash, Misty, and Brock didn't spend a lot of time around water. Goldeen should of been left with Horsea and Starmie at her family's gym.


    Brock:
    - Geodude -- This pokemon rarely appeared but Brock rarely battled.

    - Onix -- Brock rarely battled, and this is a large pokemon that needs a large amount of space.


    Jessie:
    - Lickitung -- How long did Lickitung stay on the show? It seemed like it was stronger than Arbok. The only thing terrible about Lickitung's treatment was that it got traded for a Wobbuffet.



    The pokemon with the worst treatment was Pidgeotto.



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    Sometimes, I felt Misty's Psyduck didn't get the attention he could have gotten, considering he was mostly just used when he came out to try to help. Sure he has the most personality of Misty's Pokémon along with Togepi, but he got shafted as bad as Togepi since he only was ever liked by Misty due to how powerful his Psychic attacks were, but he never was improved on with other aspects of his character. I know he isn't on the poll, but I still am realizing he was another of Misty's Pokémon to get screwed over. I mean, for the most part, all she ever did was stick to one or two Pokémon particularly for battle, which is kinda lame, but kinda like what Ash did early on as well, but still, you think we'd also see her try to improve on Psyduck's weak points outside of his powerful Psychic attacks, like improving the strength of his Water Gun, Scratch, and such. I know Misty tried to teach him how to swim, but she didn't do a good job of it.

    I do also agree on Lickitung. He never got the proper use he deserved either. Plus with Brock's Geodude, and Onix/Steelix... a lot of times Brock was just there to be there, so it makes sense he wouldn't battle much, but I still wish more depth had been done to explore the personalities and such of his original two Pokémon, especially since Onix/Steelix is his starter!!
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    Misty (I love her to pieces, but her pokemon didn't get the best treatment)

    Starmie- Dumped at the Cerulean gym after doing mostly nothing.
    Horsea- Read Starmie.
    Goldeen- Didn't do anything other than lose battles.

    Brock

    Everything except Mudkip, Croagunk, and Happiny. These three didn't get the worst treatment.

    Tracey

    Everything

    May

    Bulbasaur- It had so much potential but was simply dumped at Oak's lab and then randomly became a Venusaur the next time we saw it.

    Dawn

    Togekiss- The capture happened far to late in DP.

    Cilan

    Stunfisk- It's weak and hasn't won a battle. However, there's still time to change that.

    Iris

    Emolga- It's not treated as important compared to Axew, Excadrill, and now Dragonite. However like Stunfisk, there's still time to change that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HatersGonnaHate View Post
    Misty (I love her to pieces, but her pokemon didn't get the best treatment)

    Starmie- Dumped at the Cerulean gym after doing mostly nothing.
    Horsea- Read Starmie.
    Goldeen- Didn't do anything other than lose battles.

    Brock

    Everything except Mudkip, Croagunk, and Happiny.

    Tracey

    Everything

    May

    Bulbasaur- It had so much potential but was simply dumped at Oak's lab and then randomly became a Venusaur the next time we saw it.

    Dawn

    Togekiss- The capture happened far to late in DP.

    Cilan

    Stunfisk- It's weak and hasn't won a battle. However, there's still time to change that.

    Iris

    Emolga- It's not treated as important compared to Axew, Excadrill, and now Dragonite. However like Stunfisk, there's still time to change that.
    I agree with you on a lot of this, Haters, but I do think Brock's Pineco/Forretress got to be defined a good bit by his explosive (no pun intended) personality, as well as Bonsly when he matured from the time after Ash's travels in the Battle Frontier to Brock's return in Sinnoh. Even his evolution to Sudowoodo was a culmination of Brock's hard work as his Trainer and as a Pokémon Breeder, as shown with how dedicated and loyal he was as well as being very chipper even when upset for a bit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bryon View Post
    I agree with you on a lot of this, Haters, but I do think Brock's Pineco/Forretress got to be defined a good bit by his explosive (no pun intended) personality, as well as Bonsly when he matured from the time after Ash's travels in the Battle Frontier to Brock's return in Sinnoh. Even his evolution to Sudowoodo was a culmination of Brock's hard work as his Trainer and as a Pokémon Breeder, as shown with how dedicated and loyal he was as well as being very chipper even when upset for a bit.
    Sudowoodo wasn't used as much as it should have. It only had a handful of battles and took a backseat to Croagunk for almost all of DP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HatersGonnaHate View Post
    Sudowoodo wasn't used as much as it should have. It only had a handful of battles and took a backseat to Croagunk for almost all of DP.
    Oh, so that's why you said him as well. Sure, that's true, but he did have some good growth. A lot of times for Croagunk, even if he did battle most for Brock, that to me, he felt like he was there to replace Misty and Max to keep brock from flirting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HatersGonnaHate View Post
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    Bulbasaur- It had so much potential but was simply dumped at Oak's lab and then randomly became a Venusaur the next time we saw it.
    Her Bulbasaur did get a good deal of screentime though. It met Ash's Bulbasaur, it lost its first Contest, it beat Harley in his debut, it was used in the Grand Festival against Harley again, and then stayed at Oak's with Ash's Bulba for a while.

    Certainly more than Eevee, who really should have come at the start of Battle Frontier rather than after it was more than half over.

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    Well, the most compelling thing with Dawn's Quilava was the fact he was the new baby, which led to his rivalry with Piplup since Piplup didn't like being replaced as the "baby" of Dawn's group. And he did get used a lot by Dawn even after hatching, which shows he was developed fairly well, especially with his evolution to Quilava. More coulda been done for him, yes, but hey, he did grow up a lot from evolving into Quilava.
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