Last edited by DMerle; 25th August 2012 at 9:35 PM.
If Cresselia92 is talking about Ash, then I'm pretty sure Cresselia92 is referring to after Krookodile which is only change that we currently know about.Oshawott just got a new move and Krokoodile evolved, Iris just got a Dragonite, Stunfisk just got a new move too, we have been getting some updates in this few episodes we already had of this arc.
For all we know this is it for Ash for the entire 5th gen anime. No more captures, no more evolutions, and no more new moves.
So he wants spoilers?
Well I certainly hope not, I do think this will be the league team since its pretty close and I'm not happy about Oshawott and Snivy mainly but I want new moves atleast.
I really, really hope Palpitoad gets something new and Krokoodile learns a 4th move next week.
After the league, I believe we can still have some changes but it migth include old pokemon, so it makes it harder for the current ones, well we know for sure that Oshawott evolved or not won't go anywhere til the end of the region but I'm not sure about the others,
Palpitoad and Krookodile need a fourth move, and Unfezant and Snivy would appreciate a moveset upgrade.
Pikachu, Boldore and Scraggy are the only ones in Ash's team that have a balanced moveset, IMO (even if Snivy's is decent too).
Cilan... it would be nice for him having a new Pokemon. Iris is ok for now.
Last edited by Cresselia92; 25th August 2012 at 10:03 PM.
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I'm sure people expected more than just 1 more team change than just Krokorok evolving into Krookodile.
Krookodile is nice and everything, and I'm sure it'll be a powerful Pokemon, but with Snivy and Oshawott not evolving any time soon, it is a let down. You'd think that Ash would get another capture and have it evolve or a capture and evolve Palpitoad to compensate for Snivy and Oshawott not evolving.
I think at least two team changes (evolutions or captures) should've occurred after Tepig evolved instead of just one before the league. Having both Krookodile and Seismitoad would've definitely compensated for Snivy and Oshawott evolving. And I feel that even a mid league battle evolution would be pointless. Because what are the odds that said Pokemon would get another league win after the evolution and win?
So people are allowed to be disappointed that the brand new opening only revealed one team change for Ash because as awesome and nice as it is, Krookodile can't cover how unimpressive his team looks with Snivy, Oshawott, Scraggy, Palpitoad and Boldore.
The fact that Ash isn't getting a fully evolved starter to use during the league unlike Trip's Serperior, Bianca's Emboar, and likely Kotetsu's Samurott, really makes his "league" team even worse. Ash would've had to have Dewott, Pignite, and Servine to compensate for not having a fully evolved starter.
But I'm sure Seismitoad/Gigalith/New Fully Evolved Pokemon, Krookodile, Unfezant, Pikachu, Leavanny would've been enough.
And when I say new fully evolved Pokemon, I'm not just referring to Lucario/Espeon, there could be other Pokemon.
5th gen Pokemon wise? There's not a lot options BUT if it can be standalone then I'm sure Druddigon would be fine.
I honestly don't Meloetta could help make his team look more impressive for the league.
Let's see: Damn it, there's not a lot of options here, like I said this is why if Ash was going to get another Pokemon it couldn't be a 5th gen Pokemon, there's just enough options for Ash to get at least in a way that would make sense.
Ash would have to rely on past generation Pokemon, unfortunately without knowing what would be the most marketable options that aren't Lucario/Espeon (since Ash is never getting those Pokemon), I can't even begin to think what would be a good marketable fully evolved Pokemon, Exploud? Aggron? Lairon, Maybe? Metang? Not really a lot of obvious options here.
Ash really is screwed in terms of captures (at least pre-league). So yeah evolutions, yeah seriously Oshawott/Snivy should've evolved on top of Krokorok and Palpitoad/Boldore. Which clearly aren't happening.
Shame that it would just leave moveset changes. Which are nice but not really impressive, since the writers are very bland when it comes to move changes. Like I said Gliscor really had the best varied moveset of Ash's team.
Even Iris's Dragonite is far more impressive than most of the Pokemon. Seriously Flamethrower, Ice Beam, Thunder Punch, and Dragon Rush. Why is it that Iris's Dragonite gets an awesome varied moveset, and Ash's Pignite has three fire attacks, Oshawott has three water attacks, and Snivy has three grass attacks?
Last edited by dman_dustin; 25th August 2012 at 10:16 PM.
The problem is none of us know how long to the Unova league, we can speculate all we want but at the end of the day Ash could have an additional 5 evolutions and a capture or two, nobody knows. There have been openings that have covered 5 team changes, and those with 1/2, at the end of the day it could still be updated.
^ Well, then... I hope the League comes as late as possible, so we would have better chances to see some changes in the roster. But I won't hold much my breath.
Last edited by Cresselia92; 25th August 2012 at 10:36 PM.
Shootie/Trip: Serperior, Unfezant, Jellicent, Chandelure, Vanilluxe, Conkeldurr
Belle/Bianca: Emboar, Cinccino, Excavalier, Zoroark, Swanna, Lilligant
Cabernet/Burgundy: Dewott, Sawsbuck, Stoutland, Darmanitan, Throh, Durant
Kenyan/Stephan: Sawk, Zebstrika, Mandibuzz, Druddigon, Golurk, Reuniclus
Langley/Georgia: Beartic, Bisharp, Vanilluxe, Scolipede, Klinklang, Maractus
Kotetsu/Sorley: Samurott, Lucario, Garbodor, Altaria, Cryogonal, Clefable
Confirmed New Pokémon:
Magearna, Rowlet, Litten, Popplio, Solgaleo, Lunala, Yungoos, Pikipek, Grubbin, Rockruff, Komala, Tapu Koko, Charjabug, Vikavolt, Drampa, Bruxish, Cutiefly, Togedemaru, Salandit
If Ash were to get a capture these are the only Pokemon that at this moment in time, I could see the writers giving Ash. Though each and every one has reasons why they won't happen, or I just don't see it because right now, I don't think Ash will get a new capture.
In another time, or another place, the options would open a lot more for Ash in terms of what he can get, but not if we're talking about pre league. Maybe post league, then maybe some more options could open up. Assuming you believe a 3rd water or grass type is even remotely possible.
Last edited by dman_dustin; 25th August 2012 at 11:10 PM.
Since that Kotetsu is probably getting Pokemon that are just too awesome for the main cast I won't be surprised if he ends up with a similar team:
- Razor Shell
- Hydro Cannon
- Ice Beam
Riolu / Lucario
- Force Palm
- Quick Attack > ExtreemeSpeed
- Bullet Punch > Metal Claw
- Vacuum Wave > Aura Sphere
- Sand Tomb
- Dragon Breath
- Dragon Claw
- Flame Wheel
- Thunder Fang / Wild Charge
- Flamethrower / Heat Wave
- Close Combat
Flaaffy / Ampharos
- Power Gem / Signal Beam
- Iron Tail > ThunderPunch
- Cotton Guard
- Superpower / Rock Slide
- Brave Bird
- Air Slash
- Giga Impact / Sky Drop
@ Cressellia, Beautiful team, even if I hated the character I think I'd be anxiously awaiting his appearances with a team like that.
My own Kotesu predic/wish-list.
Riolu - Low Kick
- Ice Punch
- Dual Chop
- Quick Attack
Samurott - Razor Shell
- Icy Wind
Leafeon - Leaf Blade
- Seed Bomb
- Aerial Ace
- Rock Smash
Lairon - Metal Burst
- Magnet Rise
- Stone Edge
Rufflet - Sky Drop
- Crush Claw
Drapion - Cross Poison
- Dark Pulse
- Struggle Bug
Last edited by DMerle; 25th August 2012 at 11:47 PM.
I like it D. but I wouldn't have him share 2 pokemon with Paul. maybe swap Larion for Golurk/Archanine/Someghinh else.
and is this is introduction team? can i assume you want most of them evolved by league?
Okay here's my Kotetsu Team Wish List, YAY!:
GO Kotetsu. Show them your power of strange Pokemon.
Fine I'll be nice:
Just so Ash's Gible can OHKO it with draco meteor, resulting in Gible evolving into Gabite
Keldeo- If and only if Ash gets Meloetta.
And no I don't care I refuse to acknowledge Riolu and Samurott.
As for yours, well I like some of the choices, Rapidash/Abominsow for instance, but I can't take it seriously without Riolu/Samurott, tell me why didn't you include them?
Last edited by DMerle; 25th August 2012 at 11:48 PM.
I'm fine with either Lucario or Samurott in every single battle Kotetsu has with Ash so long as they never get paired together in the same battle.
Last edited by Cresselia92; 26th August 2012 at 12:01 AM.