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    Quote Originally Posted by Mean Mr. Snorlax View Post
    Ash is definitely getting Chespin. It's the next oshawott, I'm calling it right here and now, you guys can quote me on it.

    I also see him with Froakie and I hope this time the water starter will go all the way.
    Snivy better evolve now... otherwise we aren't gonna have any evolved Grass starter for sometime if Chespin really does get Oshawott status
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    Again Oshawott is not Oshawott just because he is cute, it was a combination of things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pepsi_Plunge View Post
    Again Oshawott is not Oshawott just because he is cute, it was a combination of things.
    I know its a combination Pepsi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joltik-Kid View Post
    I know its a combination Pepsi
    Then Chespin, Fennekin and awesome frog can be as cute as they want, they won't be stopped from evolving due to that, we got that only with Piplup and Oshawott, the others were just writing decisons.

    By others I mean, Snivy, Totodile, Cyndaquil, Buizel,etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joltik-Kid View Post
    He still caught her anyway... when I said priority, I didn't mean what comes first, but that Ash with the Grass stater will come first before he captures some non grass starter. In this case, Ash caught Snivy 12 episodes before he caught Sewaddle
    When something has priority, it means it comes first. Or it should come first.

    When you have to projects for work for example (not that this applies to me, just an example.) And one has priority over the other one, I'm pretty sure you should be working on the one that has priority.

    Your second point doesn't work because Leavanny is Ash's first non-grass starter, you can't honestly use that as proof to your argument, when Ash was going to get all starters any way.

    But if Ash is only getting one or two starters, there is no guarantee it's going to be the grass starter.

    What if Ash only gets one starter for three generations in a row. Does it make any sense for all three generations to be grass? NO, because I'm sure many fans would want to see Ash working with other type Pokémon than simply grass, I for one would despise if Ash only had one starter for three generations and it was simply the grass starter.

    In fact I would argue Leavanny's inclusion into Ash's roster, on top of Snivy being captured last of the starters, would hint at Ash having a non grass starter in the future. It's at least feasible.

    But again, if there are no other legitimate grass types, then I see Ash getting Chespin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dman_dustin View Post
    When something has priority, it means it comes first. Or it should come first.

    When you have to projects for work for example (not that this applies to me, just an example.) And one has priority over the other one, I'm pretty sure you should be working on the one that has priority.

    Your second point doesn't work because Leavanny is Ash's first non-grass starter, you can't honestly use that as proof to your argument, when Ash was going to get all starters any way.

    But if Ash is only getting one or two starters, there is no guarantee it's going to be the grass starter.

    What if Ash only gets one starter for three generations in a row. Does it make any sense for all three generations to be grass? NO, because I'm sure many fans would want to see Ash working with other type Pokémon than simply grass, I for one would despise if Ash only had one starter for three generations and it was simply the grass starter.

    In fact I would argue Leavanny's inclusion into Ash's roster, on top of Snivy being captured last of the starters, would hint at Ash having a non grass starter in the future. It's at least feasible.

    But again, if there are no other legitimate grass types, then I see Ash getting Chespin.
    Many people speculated Ash would get Pansage this season, with only Oshawott as his starter. There were plenty of legitimate Grass types Ash could have gotten, yet he still got Snivy. Leavanny happened to be a coincidence since it's more Bug-like, but still treated as Grass too. Sure they could have given Ash Durant as a Bug, but for the reason I mentioned, Sewaddle was more Bug-like
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joltik-Kid View Post
    Many people speculated Ash would get Pansage this season, with only Oshawott as his starter. There were plenty of legitimate Grass types Ash could have gotten, yet he still got Snivy. Leavanny happened to be a coincidence since it's more Bug-like, but still treated as Grass too. Sure they could have given Ash Durant as a Bug, but for the reason I mentioned, Sewaddle was more Bug-like
    Hard to do that when Cilan was going to be a travelling companion and had Pansage, all Pansage speculation stopped the moment Cilan was revealed to have one.

    And I don't think Sewaddle/Leavanny would've worked because it's not primarily grass. Snivy is pure grass, and if it was dual types it would have a primary grass type. Leavanny's primary type is bug, with just grass, and I think Leavanny only exists to actually give Ash a non grass starter because Ash has Corphish, Buizel, and Torkoal but nothing involving grass.

    But again remember Ash had to have all starters this generation. So that's why he got Snivy.

    I'm hoping Ash gets all three starters, But I much prefer Fennekin and Froakie if he's forced to only have two.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dman_dustin View Post
    Hard to do that when Cilan was going to be a travelling companion and had Pansage, all Pansage speculation stopped the moment Cilan was revealed to have one.

    And I don't think Sewaddle/Leavanny would've worked because it's not primarily grass. Snivy is pure grass, and if it was dual types it would have a primary grass type. Leavanny's primary type is bug, with just grass, and I think Leavanny only exists to actually give Ash a non grass starter because Ash has Corphish, Buizel, and Torkoal but nothing involving grass.

    But again remember Ash had to have all starters this generation. So that's why he got Snivy.

    I'm hoping Ash gets all three starters, But I much prefer Fennekin and Froakie if he's forced to only have two.
    I'm biased towards Grass if you can't tell XD
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    I honestly wouldn't mind if Cilan was the one to catch Chespin next region. If Ash's Snivy evolves during episode N then "pattern" maybe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joltik-Kid View Post
    I'm biased towards Grass if you can't tell XD
    That's fine but of all the 6th gen starters I can live without Chespin, because then Ash can definitely get another grass type Pokémon to work with.

    Which is why I'm pushing Fennekin and Froakie so hard.

    I don't know WHY Ash needs ANOTHER grass starter, especially one that's like Buizel/Oshawott in similarities.

    Why not give something like 6th generation Roserade or something like that, and see what he does with it.

    If he doesn't get all of them. If he does, I'll be happy.

    Edit: I think it would be hilarious if Chespin is partially Reptilian and we'll actually see this more in his evolutions. A reptilian, mammal combination.
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    Okay I'm officially on the Fennekin bandwagon now so I really hope Ash catches one. I just hope and pray that it doesn't turn out like his other Fire-type Starters. Please writers, let Ash have a normal Fire-type Starter that isn't disobedient, emotionally unstable or ultra powerful. Ash really needs a balanced Fire-type with a good personality.

    But I mustn't get my hopes up. At the moment I just want Ash to finish his Unova adventure with a decent team of Pokemon. Let Palpitoad and Scraggy evolve and keep Snivy and Oshawott the way they are for marketing purposes. Also, I'd really like to see at least one trade between friends before BW ends. I don't care if it's between Ash and Iris, Iris and Cilan, or Cilan and Ash. It just needs to happen for the sake of entertainment. Kthnx.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ciccone View Post
    Please writers, let Ash have a normal Fire-type Starter that isn't disobedient, emotionally unstable or ultra powerful.
    You mean like Cyndaquil?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mean Mr. Snorlax View Post
    Ash is definitely getting Chespin. It's the next oshawott, I'm calling it right here and now, you guys can quote me on it.

    I also see him with Froakie and I hope this time the water starter will go all the way.
    Yeah & Mozilla will be the next "Abandoned" Pokemon. I honestly hope Ash stays away from Froakkie. I am DONE with Ash having a Water-type Starter. He should just capture a non-Starter Water-type & not evolve it. Since I'm pretty sure Ash gets Chespin, because he always gets the Grass Starter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by _Taidow_ View Post
    I honestly wouldn't mind if Cilan was the one to catch Chespin next region. If Ash's Snivy evolves during episode N then "pattern" maybe?

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    Ash is most likely going to get Chespin to continue his grass starter tradition.
    He's got every other grass starter so far.
    I'm surprised Snivy hasn't evolved during the battle against Cameron, it would make sense seeing as how she hates to lose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DracoMaster121 View Post
    Ash is most likely going to get Chespin to continue his grass starter tradition.
    He's got every other grass starter so far.
    I'm surprised Snivy hasn't evolved during the battle against Cameron, it would make sense seeing as how she hates to lose.
    Hopefully things change and he just get's the water one lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1rkhachatryan View Post
    Hopefully things change and he just get's the water one lol.
    I'd be fine with that, unless the starters evolutions look better I am getting Fennekin.
    He needs to evolve Snivy before Gen VI though.




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    Quote Originally Posted by DracoMaster121 View Post
    I'd be fine with that, unless the starters evolutions look better I am getting Fennekin.
    He needs to evolve Snivy before Gen VI though.
    Ya, Snivy should of evolved ages ago but alas it is not so *sighs*....
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    Quote Originally Posted by HatersGonnaHate View Post
    You mean like Cyndaquil?
    Wasnt Cyndaquil a shy b*gger anyway? For once having a fire type behave boringly but steadily like Torkoal wouldnt be too bad.

    Ash could start a fire type gym if he wanted! I want the writers to make the grass/water starters the most capable for once.




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    Quote Originally Posted by d4rk_tailed View Post
    Wasnt Cyndaquil a shy b*gger anyway? For once having a fire type behave boringly but steadily like Torkoal wouldnt be too bad.

    Ash could start a fire type gym if he wanted! I want the writers to make the grass/water starters the most capable for once.
    We've had the capable Grass type starter though in the past, Sceptile. Water is the only type, starter-wise, that has been second rate in comparison.


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    I wouldn't mind if Ash got Froakie as long as it evolved. I'm doubtful of Oshawott but Episode N may have surprises, hopefully. I think I may be part of the minority that dislikes Fennekin.


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